Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:51 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
The Story of Bush's old DUI - Tampa Bay TimesLast edited Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)
Tampa Bay Times - Perspective
Finally, 38 years later, we're getting details about George W. Bush's 1976 DUI arrest. The info comes from his drinking buddy that night — former tennis great John Newcombe. Thanks, Newk. Bush's long-ago DUI became a thing with the approach of Election Day 2000. Fox News disclosed Bush's previously unbeknownst-to-most-of-us 1976 DUI in Maine. Bush fessed up to it on the campaign trail but spared us the details. The 1976 arrest went down near the Bush family's Kennebunkport, Maine, complex. (Don't all families have a "complex" of some sort?) It was known that Newcombe was a passenger in the car, but he kept mum about details until now. more at link below: http://www.tampabay.com/news/perspective/perspective-the-story-of-bushs-old-dui/2207410 ******************** There is also another aspect of this story, still untold. It was not just a DUI that was hidden. It's the story of once this ticket and or others were written, HOW it would be covered up, and the community work Bush had to do to make the charges go away, where he really did the community service work, and the driver's license number change. Only because Daddy was head of the CIA could they get that done. This is the story of what happened after the DUI, that is not discussed. James Hatfield told this story in his book, Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President, and of course he died after writing it. Democracy Now! Premieres the Full Interview with Bush Biographer J.H. Hatfield who died in 2001 of an alleged suicide amidst controversy Over his book Fortunate Son Listen to the interview with Hatfield on Democracy Now years ago. Why they are writing about this covered up DUI now, I'm not sure. But there is more to it, so I thought I would put some of it together for readers here. http://www.democracynow.org/2003/8/11/democracy_now_premieres_the_full_interview Today we play an interview that we have held for over three years. It involves allegations of President Bush, drugs, obstruction of justice and corporate scandal. It raises questions about why Bush’s driver license number was changed. In the book Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President author J.H. Hatfield charges that President Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession and that Bush’s father George Sr. used his political connections to have his son’s record expunged. Soon after publication, Hatfield’s credibility was challenged. He had been convicted in 1988 for hiring a hit-man in a failed attempt to kill his boss and had served five years in prison. J.H. Hatfield died of an alleged suicide in July 2001. [Includes transcript] This is how the story goes: Four years ago St. Martins Press published a book by author James H. Hatfield called Fortunate Son. It is about the life of George W. Bush. In the book, Hatfield charges that Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession. Why wasn’t the future President charged? Hatfield writes that Bush’s father used his political connections to have his son’s record expunged. Soon after publication of Fortunate Son the Dallas Morning News received information about Hatfield’s criminal past. The media jumped all over it and Hatfield’s reputation and credibility were ruined. St. Martins Press promised to turn Fortunate Son into "furnace fodder." It withdrew 70,000 copies from bookshelves and destroyed them. But a small publisher Soft Skull Press reprinted the book with the banner "The Book They Burned is Back." Hatfield had previously refused to reveal the source of his information about Bush’s alleged cocaine arrest. He now to decided to name him. He claimed it was none other than Karl Rove, Bush’s closest political adviser. If Rove did indeed leak the information, he couldn’t have leaked it to a better subject. Soon after publication of the Fortunate Son, Hatfield’s credibility came under fierce attack. The media followed the trail laid out for them. They diverted inquiries about Bush’s drug history to stories about Hatfield’s checkered past. He lost two other book contracts and faced financial ruin and obscurity. The character assassination finally took its toll. In July 2001, Hatfield was found dead of an apparent suicide in a hotel room in Springdale, Arkansas. He was 43 years old. Police said he left notes for his family and friends that listed alcohol, financial problems and Fortunate Son as reasons for killing himself. He is survived by a wife and daughter. Special thanks to Suki Hawley and Michael Galinsky who made the documentary film "Horns and Halos" about J.H. Hatfield and Soft Skull Press publisher Sander Hicks. They filmed the Democracy Now! interview we premiered today. Listen to the interview above. You can still buy the book! http://www.amazon.com/Fortunate-Son-George-American-President/dp/1887128840
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SamKnause | Nov 2014 | #1 | |
Major Nikon | Nov 2014 | #2 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #3 | |
BrotherIvan | Nov 2014 | #8 | |
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UTUSN | Nov 2014 | #6 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #20 | |
TBF | Nov 2014 | #7 | |
OregonBlue | Nov 2014 | #9 | |
arikara | Nov 2014 | #12 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #10 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #11 | |
Raul Hernandez | Nov 2014 | #15 | |
Gman | Nov 2014 | #13 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #16 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #14 | |
SaintLouisBlues | Nov 2014 | #17 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #18 | |
Omaha Steve | Nov 2014 | #19 | |
CorporatistNation | Nov 2014 | #21 | |
TheNutcracker | Nov 2014 | #22 | |
L0oniX | Nov 2014 | #25 | |
Octafish | Nov 2014 | #23 | |
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grasswire | Nov 2014 | #26 | |
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:05 PM
SamKnause (12,743 posts)
1. He was
also guilty of insider trading.
That story was also squashed until after he was elected. The entire family makes the mafia look like amateurs. |
Response to SamKnause (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:10 PM
Major Nikon (36,332 posts)
2. His father was president at the time
Naturally the SEC falls under the executive branch and unsurprisingly declined to investigate despite the fact that Shrub was on the board of the company and sold all his shares right before it collapsed.
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Response to SamKnause (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:11 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
3. Indeed, but this story is important as Jeb looks at running, cuz apples don't fall far
especially with the highest connections a family can provide for someone!
NO JEB! |
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #3)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:35 PM
BrotherIvan (9,126 posts)
8. Jeb is going to be the nominee
And the thought makes me break out into a cold sweat.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:11 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
4. During the DUI stop, Poppy was head of the CIA at that time....
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #4)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:16 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
5. hahaha Kick for Jeb!!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:25 PM
UTUSN (67,817 posts)
6. James HATFIELD/hero is in Shrub/KKKarl's long list of fatalities & the ruined
That is Shrub's role, to wreak revenge on the enemies of the B.F.E.E. and himself, everybody from Dan RATHER to Saddam and all in between. Poppy got his NORIEGA revenge and who knows who else (JFK?!1), and Shrub's first act in power was to seal Poppy's presidential records.
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Response to UTUSN (Reply #6)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 06:43 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
20. That needs to be a campaign talking point for democrats!
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:31 PM
TBF (31,869 posts)
7. If we do a Bush Family
true crime thread it is going to be epic. I bet it would go even longer than the Olive Garden thread.
Anyway, my favorite addition is Grandpa Prescott's association with Hitler - How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington Saturday 25 September 2004 18.59 EDT George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany. The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism. His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy. The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy ... Much more here: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:37 PM
OregonBlue (7,458 posts)
9. The DUI itself does not disqualify him becoming president. It's the cover up and the
attitude this whole family has that the rules are not for them. Only for others to follow. Real serious entitlement thinking.
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Response to OregonBlue (Reply #9)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:50 PM
arikara (5,562 posts)
12. If it had been reported fairly though
and everything he did was brought out as it should have been, like his desertion and dui the chimp would never have become president. There is such a liberal bias in the news that they don't report on republicans and make things up like swift boat on democrats. /sarcasm
I still have a copy of Fortunate Son, I managed to get one of the St Martins first edition but bought a soft cover and sold the first on ebay because I needed the money, if I remember correctly it went for over $100. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:38 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
10. This is really about a power structure in that family. "JEB, the good son"...blah blah. NO JEB EVER!
That stands for no more Bushes.
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:48 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
11. PS. JEB's son is now in as "land commissioner" for TX. We overlook the real game when it
comes to our 'campaigns'. After the largest land grab ever took place in TX a few years ago, for the strange NAFTA superhighway, the width of 4 football fields, the powers that be just do as they please with our country. We focus on party, and a few big issues.
While the mice play....little Patrick in TX now, as land commissioner, and Jeb in Florida, who began all of the bullshit from their electronic voting to drilling, now wanting the top job. Gov. Scott in Fla came from TX and was only in that state 7 days longer than the requirement for him to run the race! Don't tell me that was not planned, or planted here by Jeb, with all that is going on, very thought out. The Bush's have their family and friends strategically placed about, before, now, and soon to come. The Bush family is the power structure of our country. I say that after looking at everything since Kennedy died. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #11)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:10 PM
Raul Hernandez (78 posts)
15. He won't be reelected
after a massive amount of fuckups that Pee will do.
Texas will not vote for another Bush after Pee. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:06 PM
Gman (24,780 posts)
13. I was told here in Texas about
W doing community service work for an unknown reason in the fifth ward of Houston. No doubt it was for the cocaine conviction.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:13 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
16. Exactly. The community servcie is what was covered up, to hide the new driver's license he would get
that would cover up the cocaine arrest. If you saw the correct venue for his community service you could catch the number. You know the story. So many don't But we have another Bush coming, and the line, 'he's the good son, the one people like'. Every move that family makes is very calculated. We cannot have another Bush...
I also wonder why the media is bringing this up now...especially in Florida. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:09 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
14. No Bush apples ever fell far from the tree...read up here...
When it comes to JEB just look at all the shit. His wife can never be a first lady. She lied to the feds about 20K in purchases she was bringing back into the U.S. from Paris. Jeb's been a big philanderer. Two of his children have been in the news in the past years for arrests linked to drug problems, public intoxication, and sex in public. (don't confuse the W's kids).
Then there is the Bush family issue of robbing banks. One, the Silverado Savings and Loan, several ways into which many in the Bush family were involved, and also many politicians still in office today. Jeb, George Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars, one quarter of our national debt. (So quite believing the talking point, they thought they would be running JEB in 2000, they KNEW they were running W!) One son also thinks it's polite to take up with the Asian hookers when they are presented. Their grandfather worked for Hilter, and HW lied about working for the CIA. We were to believe this when he was chosen to head the CIA agency? The entire family has been an "AMERICAN DISASTER'. Then there is Jeb's Nigerian water pump bribery scandal back in the courts, just last year! And he states that Illegal immigration is an "act of love". He's an idiot! Let us not forget that Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million dollar loan from the Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, FL. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000.00, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars, as in the past, taxpayers have paid their bills. This family robs banks and created a drug war to run drugs. Just read Barry and the Boys. Barry Seal flew planes for the CIA and ran drugs for HW and a few others. So please remember all of this because we have the biggest race ahead of us. |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:39 PM
SaintLouisBlues (1,224 posts)
17. Fox news did not break this story. It was the local Fox affiliate in Portland East.
Fox pretends to have broken the story in an attempt at "fair and balanced" bonafides.
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Response to SaintLouisBlues (Reply #17)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:44 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
18. Of course the corporation takes all credit. FOX didn't talk about any substance around this either.
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:01 PM
Omaha Steve (93,500 posts)
19. Great reading
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:08 AM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
21. The Coming Presidential "Contest" Provides...
a fantastic opportunity to quash the criminals who seek this office before they even get started.
The TRUTH about 9/11 needs to be heard. 9/11 hasthe same stench as the Warren Commission cover up! READ THIS: Riyadh plays with fire over Nimr verdict’ ‘US policies lead to mayhem everywhere’ A retired US Army general says America should hold public hearings to investigate 9/11 and the wars it triggered. Gen. Daniel P. Bolger, a leader of the US campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, made the comments during an exclusive interview with Truth Jihad Radio. Gen. Bolger is the author of the explosive new book Why We Lost: A General’s Inside Account of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. Asked about worldwide skepticism concerning the official account of 9/11, including the 80% of Muslims worldwide who believe the attacks were a false flag deception, Gen. Bolger said: "We need to have public hearings sort of like the 9/11 Commission, for our own people first, for Americans! I mean, you’re American. Wouldn’t you like to know – wouldn’t you like to see not just me, but other people like me, come into a public forum and answer the kind of questions you're asking me today?" Gen. Bolger’s remarks add further impetus to the accelerating campaign, led by the 9/11 family members, to declassify the top secret 28 pages of the 2002 Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11. Those pages, according to numerous Congressional Representatives and Senators who have read them, completely overturn the official account and show that "one or more governments" were behind the 9/11 attacks. The governments in question appear to have been Saudi Arabia and Israel, not Iraq or Afghanistan, raising questions about the real motive of the 9/11 wars. Meanwhile, CNN has reported that convicted "19th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui has charged that the Saudi royal family paid for his flying lessons when he was training as a suicide pilot (or, more likely, being framed as a patsy). Moussaoui makes the allegations against the Saudis in two handwritten letters to federal courts in New York and Oklahoma. He also claims that Saudi Royals plotted to assassinate President Bill Clinton by shooting down Air Force One. The Saudi government hotly denies these charges, and has even called for the top secret 28 pages to be declassified so it can defend itself. So far, Obama has refused to declassify the 28 pages – which were sealed by then-President George W. Bush – and Congress has not yet voted to force the issue. So it is not the Saudi government but the American government that is covering up the truth. Why would the US government want to hide the truth about the worst catastrophe in its history? The probable answer is that 9/11 was carried out not only with the help of the Saudi and Israeli governments, but corrupt, treasonous members of the US government as well. Declassifying the 28 pages would reveal that 9/11 was a government-sponsored deception, not an independent "al-Qaeda" operation. This would force the kind of new 9/11 investigation that Gen. Bolger advocates. And such an investigation might lead to some very uncomfortable places. A real 9/11 investigation would very likely reveal treasonous criminal complicity in the attacks on the part of former officials President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Undersecretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, and at least some members of the upper echelons of the Secret Service and the Armed Forces. Let’s review just some of the abundant evidence pointing in that direction, much of which was already well-known in 2004 thanks to Dr. David Ray Griffin’s book The New Pearl Harbor. Events at the Emma E. Booker School in Florida on the morning of 9/11 prove that Bush and the Secret Service must have had foreknowledge of the attacks. When Andrew Card spent less than two seconds whispering something in Bush's ear at 9:03 a.m. supposedly informing the president that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center proving that America was under attack, neither Bush nor the Secret Service responded according to protocol. If it had been a real surprise attack, the Secret Service would have whisked Bush away to safety at maximum speed. Instead, they allowed Bush to spend eight more minutes in a pre-announced location practicing reading with schoolchildren. (The words they chanted, oddly enough, were "kite-plane-must-hit-steel." ![]() Bush posed for photo ops for another fifteen minutes, and did not leave the school (where the whole world including potential attackers knew he was) until almost 9:30! Then the presidential limousine followed the pre-announced route, at a leisurely pace, to the airport, where Air Force One did not take off until almost 10 a.m. Obviously, this was no surprise attack! Later, Bush would repeatedly claim that he actually saw the first attack plane hit the North Tower before he entered the classroom – an impossibility unless he saw a live feed in the presidential limousine, set up by 9/11-complicit officials, as alleged by national security sources to former NSA officer-turned-journalist Wayne Madsen. As for Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, both have incriminated themselves by telling conflicting, implausible stories about where they were and what they were doing on the morning of 9/11. The 9/11 Commission, trying to cover up Cheney’s conflicting statements, has also been caught in absurdly obvious lies. Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta’s sworn account of Cheney issuing a stand-down order to allow the attack on the Pentagon to proceed unmolested is just the most obvious of the multiple smoking guns incriminating Cheney and Rumsfeld. (Indeed, the attack on the Pentagon, which occurred almost 90 minutes after the Secret Service, the FAA and the military high command had established phone bridges to deal with the reports of hijackings, could never have happened if it were an actual attack by a hijacked plane and if normal air defense protocols had been followed.) Top US military leaders, trying in vain to follow a hopelessly muddled script, repeatedly perjured themselves before the 9/11 Commission as they offered wildly-conflicting accounts of why US air defenses had not stopped the "hijackings." 9/11 Commission co-chairs Kean and Hamilton have stated that they considered prosecuting those military leaders for perjury. Then-US Senator Mark Dayton (D-MN) nearly broke down crying on the Senate floor as he railed against the grotesque lies told by his own military leadership. Shortly thereafter Senator Dayton was forced to flee Washington DC, along with his entire staff, and return to Minnesota due to "terrorist threats" and announce his retirement. His fellow Minnesota Senator and 9/11 skeptic, Paul Wellstone, didn’t get the message, and was murdered, along with his wife, daughter, and staffers, in a rigged plane crash less than a week after he was issued an apparent death threat by Dick Cheney. Circumstantial evidence points toward Paul Wolfowitz being a 9/11 mastermind. Stanley Hilton and University of Illinois law professor Francis Boyle, both classmates of Wolfowitz at the University of Chicago in the 1960s, have stated that Wolfowitz and other pet students of neocon guru Leo Strauss were even then plotting the coup d'état in America that eventually came to fruition as the 9/11-anthrax attack. The general script for the 9/11-anthrax coup was published in 1968 under the name Coup d'Etat: A Practical Handbook by top neocon strategist Edward Luttwak. (Zionist neocons like Wolfowitz, Luttwak, Dov Zakheim, Richard Perle, Scooter Libby, Elliot Abrams and most of the signatories of PNAC’s September 2000 call for a "New Pearl Harbor" are suspected of designing 9/11 to trick the US into a long-term fight against Israel’s enemies.) The participation of high-level Americans in the 9/11 deception explains the US government’s reluctance to release the explosive 28 pages and risk igniting the greatest scandal in world history. Such a scandal would destabilize the American political system by annihilating the government’s legitimacy in the eyes of the people. It is easy to see why even non-9/11-complicit officials don’t want to go there. Yet, that 9/11 scandal already exists, unofficially. Most of the world knows or suspects the truth. America’s legitimacy, in the eyes of the world and its own people, is being terminally sapped by the festering boil of the 9/11 big lie. The only way to cure this potentially terminal illness is by lancing that boil with the sharp needle of truth. The pain will be temporary; healing will commence quickly. By forthrightly facing and accepting the consequences of such a momentous scandal, the US will be able to re-establish its legitimacy and good name – and perhaps even end its experimental status as Orwellian-Straussian empire, and return to its roots as a Constitutional democratic republic. ![]() ![]() CorporatistNation is coming... |
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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:16 PM
L0oniX (31,493 posts)
25. Delete this before you get a hide.
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:08 PM
Octafish (55,745 posts)
23. Ask Smirko McCokespoon about Project P.U.L.L.
Communiy "service" in exchange for something getting lost-n-forgotten heh heh heh.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2956067 |
Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:54 PM
grasswire (50,130 posts)
26. something even MORE IMPORTANT about this story
The DUI story was broken by a FOX affiliate on the Friday before the election.
On that same day, Senator Bob Kerrey had called a press conference to ask George W. Bush to EXPLAIN HIS ABSENCE FROM DUTY IN THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD IN WARTIME. That's right. Kerrey had finally become concerned about the fact that the presidential candidate had been AWOL, and had concealed that. Kerry called a press conference to call national attention to this. Then FOX broke the DUI (which had likely been in Rove's back pocket waiting for the moment). An epic dirty trick. |
Response to grasswire (Reply #26)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 04:47 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
27. ahh ha. not surprised. we must remember all of the facts surrounding the Bush's cuz Jeb's coming
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Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 01:58 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
28. New poll shows Romney ahead of JEB! It's early, and Romney will fall.
He's ahead of Clinton too. But they did not ask about the dems we'd really like to see running.
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