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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:28 PM Nov 2014

Scientists urge governments to turn old TV frequencies into free “super WiFi”

Governments should sack plans to auction off old television frequencies to the highest bidder and instead use the bandwidth for free super-frequency WiFi if they want to boost the economy, scientists have said.

Old television frequencies are becoming available for other uses around the world, thanks to a switch from analogue to digital transmission. However, while governments are for the most part auctioning these off to whoever is prepared to pay the most – usually mobile phone networks – they should instead be using the frequencies to create free-to-use, wide-range WiFi, scientists from the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) in Germany have said.
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WiFi transmitted over old TV frequencies could be transmitted at lower frequencies than traditional WiFi, resulting in a far wider area covered. This super WiFi’s coverage area could even be as big as several kilometres in radius, a massive improvement on existing networks.

This would mean that pricey mobile services such as 4G were no longer required, which the scientists believe would lead to more mobile internet use, and a wealth of economic benefits.

http://www.factor-tech.com/connected-world/9769-scientists-urge-governments-to-turn-old-tv-frequencies-into-free-super-wifi/
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Scientists urge governments to turn old TV frequencies into free “super WiFi” (Original Post) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 OP
GOP response Politicalboi Nov 2014 #1
As good an idea as this seems lordsummerisle Nov 2014 #2
+1 gollygee Nov 2014 #3
The internet was peabody Nov 2014 #5
You could have said the same thing about touch-tone dialing, color tv, flat panel displays, HDTV, .. eggplant Nov 2014 #7
The whole point is for it not to be profitable.. meaning, WE profit! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #8
Even the Democrats we vote for can't get behind that! FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #17
It's not how much money it will make that matters, it is how much money rich people will lose. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #15
That may go the way of "free wi-fi," courtesy of whatever Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #4
Not gonna work. Speed. jeff47 Nov 2014 #6
I think it would probably work ok..... it's mostly UHF groundloop Nov 2014 #10
Better than non-existent PumpkinAle Nov 2014 #13
Those same wide areas weren't served by TV. jeff47 Nov 2014 #14
So don't try? PumpkinAle Nov 2014 #18
Don't try because nobody's going to pay. jeff47 Nov 2014 #19
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Nov 2014 #9
another good reason to vote against these damned republicans certainot Nov 2014 #11
very interesting idea niyad Nov 2014 #12
I no longer expect the government to do anything on behalf of "The People". Enthusiast Nov 2014 #16

peabody

(445 posts)
5. The internet was
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:45 PM
Nov 2014

originally not profitable but look how that took off. Sometimes you have to first invest and develop before people can see the benefits.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
4. That may go the way of "free wi-fi," courtesy of whatever
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:40 PM
Nov 2014

city/county promised such. Years ago. Still waiting. But I hear some corporate interests hussled their nuts, belched, and shook their... heads.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Not gonna work. Speed.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:46 PM
Nov 2014

Roughly speaking, the lower the frequency, the slower the data transmission rate. These lower frequencies would cover a larger area, but have slow data service.

Theoretically, you could take a few pages from WiFi and use channel bonding to try and get some more speed out of it, but it would take a lot of channels to get it to reach most people's definition of "fast".

groundloop

(12,332 posts)
10. I think it would probably work ok..... it's mostly UHF
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:58 PM
Nov 2014

I just did a search to see which frequencies are available and mostly it's from about 700 to 800 MHz. We should be able to use that satisfactorily.

edit to add: HOWEVER - If corporations can make a profit with these frequencies I just don't see this happening, no matter how good of an idea it is.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. Those same wide areas weren't served by TV.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:35 PM
Nov 2014

There's no reason to believe they'd be served by WiFi using TV spectrum.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. Don't try because nobody's going to pay.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:24 PM
Nov 2014

The areas not served by existing options are very spread out, and have few people in them. As a result, it would cost multiple hundreds per month for service, because you're spreading the cost out over a small number of people.

You can't even re-use any of the old transmitter infrastructure, because they were not built to serve these areas.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. another good reason to vote against these damned republicans
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:12 PM
Nov 2014

cause it won't happen with them running things

thanks again all you non-voters!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. I no longer expect the government to do anything on behalf of "The People".
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:36 AM
Nov 2014

Unless that anything is an unnecessary war or corporate subsidy.

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