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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:30 PM

peace13 (11,076 posts)

 

Dear Mr. President...you lost me at....

"We are a nation built on the rule of law" I heard you speak these words last night and my mind went racing to remember when these words were last true. Certainly not when George Bush and Dick Cheney went skipping off the stage. Not when the bankers went free or the illegal wars were started on a pack of lies. And not as we live in cities and villages with militarized police departments.

No, I can't remember when last there was a rule of law for all. The division is clear and I am sorry that those words were the best that you could do last night.

I am sure that it hurt to say them. At some point you just have to stop talking. But you figured that out after the first rambling answer. The scene was heart breaking.

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Reply Dear Mr. President...you lost me at.... (Original post)
 peace13 Nov 2014 OP
LineReply the law is only for those that can buy it.
 hobbit709 Nov 2014 #1
LineLineReply +1
 joeybee12 Nov 2014 #2
LineLineReply There are actually two sets of laws: one for the well-to-do and the
 KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #5
LineLineReply Laws are written to protect those who can buy laws. nt
 valerief Nov 2014 #13
LineLineReply If you have been in a civil case
 SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2014 #19
LineLineNew Reply Exactly, like this douche.
 sylvanus Nov 2014 #30
LineReply there is only a law for the rich or the truly evil
 samsingh Nov 2014 #3
LineReply Well said, peace13.
 Octafish Nov 2014 #4
LineReply The only use the PTB have for the rule of law is to keep us in line.
 merrily Nov 2014 #6
LineReply it is a charade...and a lie
 noiretextatique Nov 2014 #7
LineReply What the **** did you expect him to say?
 iandhr Nov 2014 #8
LineLineReply Come right out and say the truth.....stats are on his side.
 nc4bo Nov 2014 #10
LineLineLineReply a lot can't/won't
 heaven05 Nov 2014 #14
LineLineLineReply The election of a black man as President has been used
 Skidmore Nov 2014 #16
LineLineLineReply ^^^^This!^^^^ + a gazillion!
 love_katz Nov 2014 #17
LineLineReply 'We are a nation built on violence without consequence, theft without punishment,
 pampango Nov 2014 #12
LineReply Immortal Technique:Rich Man's World (1%) Lyrics
 Mr Dixon Nov 2014 #9
LineReply I don't think it hurt him to say those words.
 grasswire Nov 2014 #11
LineReply well, in fairness, it was an accurate statement
 stupidicus Nov 2014 #15
LineReply oh potus oh dear. "We are a nation built on the rule of law"
 belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #18
LineReply I am one of those Obama-bots (I guess that's my label) & I have to say last nite
 jillan Nov 2014 #20
LineLineNew Reply He looked tired for sure.
 peace13 Nov 2014 #24
LineReply The President is 100% correct. Only fascists would abandon the rule of law in difficult times.
 Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #21
LineLineNew Reply Surely this is the best of all possible worlds.
 Orrex Nov 2014 #23
LineReply Good OP. the rule of law is extremely selective. nt
 arthritisR_US Nov 2014 #22
LineNew Reply I thought it was a great speech. But he doesn't do bad speeches.
 maced666 Nov 2014 #25
LineNew Reply Way to draw out a lurker. I haven't even rec'd anything in months and months.
 Flying Squirrel Nov 2014 #26
LineNew Reply White people lecturing the black president on how to talk to black people.
 Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #27
LineLineNew Reply So sorry.
 peace13 Nov 2014 #29
LineNew Reply Isn't this the DOJ that said major crimes by corporations are "violations of the law, not offenses"?
 Leopolds Ghost Nov 2014 #28
LineNew Reply We are under the rule of Capitalist Law for Capitalist pigs.
 Odin2005 Nov 2014 #31
LineNew Reply Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!
 Enthusiast Nov 2014 #32

Response to peace13 (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:31 PM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)

1. the law is only for those that can buy it.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:35 PM

joeybee12 (56,177 posts)

2. +1

 

The cost is too high for most of us peons.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:44 PM

KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)

5. There are actually two sets of laws: one for the well-to-do and the

 

"Law of the Jungle" for the rest of us.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

valerief (53,235 posts)

13. Laws are written to protect those who can buy laws. nt

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:32 PM

SoLeftIAmRight (4,883 posts)

19. If you have been in a civil case

 

you find out quickly just how true those words are.

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:29 PM

sylvanus (122 posts)

30. Exactly, like this douche.

 

Ethan Couch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:39 PM

samsingh (17,346 posts)

3. there is only a law for the rich or the truly evil

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:41 PM

Octafish (55,745 posts)

4. Well said, peace13.

Like taxes, laws are for the little people in the United States of America today.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:53 PM

Star Member merrily (45,251 posts)

6. The only use the PTB have for the rule of law is to keep us in line.

They always have an excuse why the law doesn't apply to their actions.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:58 PM

noiretextatique (27,274 posts)

7. it is a charade...and a lie

it was never true, and it is not true now.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:00 PM

iandhr (6,852 posts)

8. What the **** did you expect him to say?

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:27 PM

nc4bo (17,651 posts)

10. Come right out and say the truth.....stats are on his side.

Reminds me of a man or woman referring to the person they have an affair with as "them" or "some people" rather than that woman or that man I'm cheating on you with.

We have a race problem in this country. We have a police violence problem in this country. We have an inequality problem in this country and we all need to be honest with ourselves and admit it. How about we work together to eliminate these problems.

All of this despite that the fact that a black man was ELECTED POTUS.

The few are making life miserable for the many.



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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:37 PM

heaven05 (18,124 posts)

14. a lot can't/won't

 

admit to what you wrote because it threatens their perceived privilege garnered from a democracy designed to be divisive based on race, money, social class. The few have always made the many miserable, it's a pretty sad situation though that some of those "many" keep voting for those who can and will make their lives miserable. I just can't understand that type of hate and stupidity.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:41 PM

Skidmore (37,364 posts)

16. The election of a black man as President has been used

by the right wing to build their base of racists, and along with that they gave permission to racist language and behavior to come to the forefront. Pushback needs to occur on all fronts--politicians, media, and even your next door neighbor We will not tolerate racism. Period.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:15 PM

Star Member love_katz (2,428 posts)

17. ^^^^This!^^^^ + a gazillion!

I couldn't say it any better.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

pampango (24,692 posts)

12. 'We are a nation built on violence without consequence, theft without punishment,

do unto others as they have done and will do to you. IOW, we are a republican nation. So go out there and get you some.'

Surely nothing bad could come from that.

That's why I'm voting for an anonymous DU poster for president next time. They tell it like it is, consequences be damned.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:15 PM

Mr Dixon (1,185 posts)

9. Immortal Technique:Rich Man's World (1%) Lyrics

You know my C.E.O. Masonic steez, cheese
Only little people pay all these taxes and fees
Since you were born we controlled what you watch and you read
And pretty soon were gonna, own the fuckin' air that you breathe

I take what I want, fucker, I don't have to say please
I'll convince you that it's good for you, take it and leave
You think Presidents are the face of a nation
I put 'em all where they are, end of the conversation

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:29 PM

grasswire (50,130 posts)

11. I don't think it hurt him to say those words.

I think he really believes the claptrap. He is of the establishment.

I had the same reaction to this the last time he said those words, recently.

There is no equal justice under the law.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:39 PM

stupidicus (2,570 posts)

15. well, in fairness, it was an accurate statement

 

it's no small wonder given what those laws were, that the black man/woman/child has gone from what, 2/3 of a man to practically valueless in the eyes of too many.

He needs to own up to the fact that his exercising of prosecutorial discretion in the case of the war criminals and criminal bankers will and has only further entrenched the notion and real world consequences of unequal justice -- the even uglier cousin of wealth/income inequality. Add in the death and carnage of illegal/immoral wars, and it's no small wonder that so many with a gun wanna piece of the "justice" pie.

Did he say anything about "leading by example"?

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:30 PM

belzabubba333 (1,237 posts)

18. oh potus oh dear. "We are a nation built on the rule of law"

 

just ask the real americans about rule of law -

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:42 PM

jillan (39,451 posts)

20. I am one of those Obama-bots (I guess that's my label) & I have to say last nite

was not one of his finer moments.

I thought he looked weak, defeated and out of touch.
His words did nothing to inspire or heal.

Maybe it was the split screen? Hard to say, but it was the first time I found myself thinking "shut up already".

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:52 PM

peace13 (11,076 posts)

24. He looked tired for sure.

 

When he started to answer the question and began to ramble I questioned why he would go off script in this situation. But opening with that same old line ....my reaction was much like yours.

I can't imagine dealing with a rouge Secret Service and fearing for the safety of my family. The man has a full plate for sure.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:43 PM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

21. The President is 100% correct. Only fascists would abandon the rule of law in difficult times.

Abandon what the country was built on and you let them win.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 03:10 PM

Orrex (62,384 posts)

23. Surely this is the best of all possible worlds.

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:44 PM

Star Member arthritisR_US (7,160 posts)

22. Good OP. the rule of law is extremely selective. nt

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 04:14 PM

maced666 (771 posts)

25. I thought it was a great speech. But he doesn't do bad speeches.

 

Strong point - one of many - he OWNS.

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:21 AM

Flying Squirrel (3,041 posts)

26. Way to draw out a lurker. I haven't even rec'd anything in months and months.

 

But I still read every day.

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:22 AM

Drunken Irishman (34,857 posts)

27. White people lecturing the black president on how to talk to black people.

 

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:11 PM

peace13 (11,076 posts)

29. So sorry.

 

I worked my #%^ off to help get this man elected. I expect to be be included when he addresses this country. Your point is interesting. Pretty sure that the black people you think he was talking to know that the rule of law is a joke. I expect the President to address the nation when something as horrific as this happens.

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 04:31 AM

Leopolds Ghost (12,875 posts)

28. Isn't this the DOJ that said major crimes by corporations are "violations of the law, not offenses"?

OK so Holder has apparently a good civil rights record (but no victories to show for it) --

How is his blatant double standard on "non-prosecutable corporate crime" rule of law?

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Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:36 PM

Odin2005 (53,521 posts)

31. We are under the rule of Capitalist Law for Capitalist pigs.

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Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:03 AM

Enthusiast (50,983 posts)

32. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

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