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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:50 PM

 

Sexism, intellectual laziness, giddy gah gah, and sweetheart

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Many responses to my "Women are Sexist Pigs" thread from the other night fall under intellectual laziness. It's pretty clear that I understand the historical context, loyalsister. That you missed it is just lazy. People came to that thread with pre-fab responses. Minds already made up and loaded for bear.

So many of the intellectually lazy, loyalsister, got stuck on, "giddy gah gah" and "swooning". None of you cared about what one of the women said about the way they behaved, i.e., the gah gah.

I left soon after and almost immediately received a text from D who said she was sorry she made me feel uncomfortable and it was totally hypocritical of her and she won't do it again. She went on and said I was totally right, if it was reversed (5 men talking about a hot female coworker), each one of them would be freaking out.

So, based on her words, it was a big deal from the point of view of a woman.

Not a hostile environment. I couldn't wait for them to slip up! We are a tight group. They love me and I them. But because of the historical context, I have to be careful, moreso than them. You should have noticed, loyalsister. Lazy...

re: sweetheart
I was explaining this when I got locked out of the thread so it never got posted. "Sweetheart" is kind of a big deal in my field. The women work with older men who call them "Sweetheart" and "Sweetie". My coworkers are to correct them each time, saying something like, "My name is Kathleen, please address me by my name."

Other words on the no-no list:

Crazy: I can't believe that. That's totally crazy. (FAIL)
Nuts: You cannot be serious. That guy drives me nuts! (FAIL)

Sweetheart isn't really part of my vernacular, but I've been saying "crazy" and "nuts" for longer than they've been alive.

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Reply Sexism, intellectual laziness, giddy gah gah, and sweetheart (Original post)
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 OP
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cyberswede Nov 2014 #2
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #5
Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #3
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #4
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #9
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #8
tammywammy Nov 2014 #10
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tammywammy Nov 2014 #13
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #14
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2014 #12
Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #15

Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:56 PM

1. meh...FWIW, some context

 

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:09 PM

2. There's a big difference between calling someone "Sweetheart" and "a sweetheart"

If someone (male or female) were to say, "You did a good job on that, Sweetheart," it would be uncool. If someone (male or female) were to say, "Thanks for your help - you're such a sweetheart," that's NOT uncool.

Get it?

One of those examples would only be directed toward a woman; the other is gender-neutral.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:20 PM

5. I didn't see that. And I indeed said "a sweetheart"

 

That helps, thanks

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:10 PM

3. So, this is in fact a callout thread.

You're calling loyalsister 'intellectually lazy'. This should go well.

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:16 PM

4. What are the rules about that on DU?

Is it formally a no no under site rules, or just incredibly bad taste, and only done by total asshats?

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:33 PM

9. The rules are enforced by the DU mob

 

The mob determines they'll keep posts of posters they like. Mob rule.

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:24 PM

6. If loyalsister used a less offensive (?) word...

 

I could have used that. I'm just using her words.

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:30 PM

8. upshot: don't quote someone and use their words against them

 

Gottit!

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:34 PM

10. This is a shitty call out. You should delete it. n/t

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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:40 PM

13. It's nice that you're getting to use your new phrase.

I did read your stupid shitty OP. You're still complaining or is it boasting about catching women being sexist. Big fucking whoop. It was resolved, right? Yet, here you are bringing it up again. It's not shocking that women can be sexist. You rightfully called them out and they apologized. Move the fuck on.

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:43 PM

14. FAIL. it is a big fucking deal. I'll prove it here in time

 

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:38 PM

12. loyalsister probably agrees with me on that

 

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:39 PM

15. Locking

GD SOP prohibits "whining about DU". Thanks!

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