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Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:00 PM Nov 2014

WTF ?? WTF ??...ISIS Pledges to Send Fighters to Ferguson

ISIS supports Ferguson protesters: Islamic militants pledge to send over 'soldiers that don't sleep, whose drink is blood, and their play is carnage'

ISIS fighters in Syria post tweets declaring support for Ferguson rioters
•Urge protesters to embrace Islam and carry out acts of extreme violence
•Uploaded hand-written note vowing to send militants to the Missouri city
•But said rioters must first declare their allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi




The note Hussain posted on Twitter today is titled 'From #IS 2 Ferguson' and contains a promise to send militants to the Missouri city if protesters pledge allegiance to ISIS.

It reads: 'We hear you and we will help you if you accept Islam and reject corrupt man-made laws like democracy and pledge your allegiance to Caliph Abu Bakr and then we will shed our blood for you and send our soldiers that don't sleep, whose drink is blood, and their play is carnage.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2850442/We-hear-help-ISIS-tweets-support-Ferguson-protesters-reject-corrupt-man-laws-like-democracy.html

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WTF ?? WTF ??...ISIS Pledges to Send Fighters to Ferguson (Original Post) Rhinodawg Nov 2014 OP
Oh, wow, just what Ferguson MO needs - more violence. jwirr Nov 2014 #1
And more religious radicals justiceischeap Nov 2014 #2
ISIS and the Ferguson Police Derek V Nov 2014 #3
Yeah, ISIS is much worse. GGJohn Nov 2014 #6
Some people get confused. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #32
not really. comparisons are sometimes not only odious, they can be deeply stupid. cali Nov 2014 #88
Smells like dailymail doo-doo. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #4
Read the note. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #10
I can write a note, too, and trash rags like the Mail will run with it... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #58
Some unknown guy scribbled a note and posted it? Let's FREAK OUT! Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #59
How about Newsweek and Washington Post ? Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #62
No, not weird. They feed off news stories to contact alienated people and recruit them. freshwest Nov 2014 #81
uh your ridiculous wtf post title said it, rhino!!! duh. cali Nov 2014 #89
This is what happens when America embarrasses itself so publicly. nt truebluegreen Nov 2014 #5
The Daily Mail is a crap source. m-lekktor Nov 2014 #7
LOL. Like Ferguson police tweeting they are sending Officer Wilson to fight ISIS, it is propaganda. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #8
How about Newsweek? oberliner Nov 2014 #13
I will give you $10 if he responds. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #18
I'll take that tenner and get it to Oberliner for you. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #41
Done Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #43
I checked my inbox, but it wasn't there. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #45
Donate it to the charity of your choice oberliner Nov 2014 #98
It's a great way to raise imaginary money. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #99
Same propaganda garbage, citing other sources does not change the garbage. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #19
are you saying it is propaganda garbage from ISIS, or from another source? Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #42
Reminds me of Charles Manson reaching out to unstable young hippies. Quantess Nov 2014 #64
but who cares? only an absolute moron would take this threat as anything but cali Nov 2014 #90
Anyone who read through or commented on those articles oberliner Nov 2014 #92
I don't find it particularly compelling or meaningful. cali Nov 2014 #93
Oh good...then you'll like this better Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #16
Yes, same garbage, different wrapper. The smell is the same. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #17
That smell is not the wrapper. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #22
What? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #23
Good way to try and discredit a budding movement. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #9
I sense a slight flaw in the plan... stone space Nov 2014 #11
lol Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #40
But wouldn't the KKK have to make Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #74
hmm.. there's also the darkness of ISIS' skin Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #78
Isn't that nice?? shraby Nov 2014 #12
Some muslim Brits are members of ISIS. DetlefK Nov 2014 #21
True... but that also rules out most r/w morans groundloop Nov 2014 #24
Some people wil believe any fucking thing. 99Forever Nov 2014 #14
Yes, same folks that believed ebola was airborne will believe this. Fear is fun for some, Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #20
I swear that the collective intellgence of America... 99Forever Nov 2014 #25
Bwahahaha... Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #26
Thank you - I was going to mention Ebola TBF Nov 2014 #61
Some people are easily frightened too neverforget Nov 2014 #66
Precisely... 99Forever Nov 2014 #67
and some people just what to stir up hate. cali Nov 2014 #91
Some people do...like Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #95
pretending you can't see the difference in what I wrote there and in my cali Nov 2014 #96
Yeah....suuuure.... Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #97
They are REALLY desperate for attention. DetlefK Nov 2014 #15
Their biggest problem is probably the PKK......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #30
About the PKK... DetlefK Nov 2014 #36
Yep. And quite frankly, their politics are flawed too...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #46
PKK also supports the Ferguson resistance. I saw a photo of one their female KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #48
I believe I've seen that photo somewhere....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #27
No comment Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #29
I believe it is reported as is JonLP24 Nov 2014 #31
some sociopathic geeks who were bored to death in their parents' basements. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #39
We know they can design good web pages; why are you surprised they can troll you too? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #28
What about Newsweek and the Washington Post? oberliner Nov 2014 #34
Why would you be surprised that Newsweek and the Washington Post publish click bait too? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #47
I give even the thugs in Ferguson more credit than to fall for ISIS who would skin them alive in a kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #33
^^^^ this Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #35
++ Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #38
I know this isn't funny but Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #37
Agreed, LOL!!! Stellar Nov 2014 #82
I couldn't help but this also made me laugh JonLP24 Nov 2014 #83
lol. Iggo Nov 2014 #44
I think John McCain and the Savage Wiener just came n2doc Nov 2014 #50
Well, I'll give them an E for effort Scootaloo Nov 2014 #51
Ugh. Rex Nov 2014 #52
They're just pissed off that they are off the "front page"... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #53
...and the IDF would be there to back up the Feguson PD? U4ikLefty Nov 2014 #54
They're comin to get ya whatchamacallit Nov 2014 #55
Yes, we are all scared. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #65
I'm not grasping the concern nor the emotion. Seems like a guilty conscience TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #56
Well, aren't they just precious? bluedigger Nov 2014 #57
amerikkan racists bring heaven05 Nov 2014 #60
+1 bravenak Nov 2014 #68
And ISIS is actually a lot worst than even many of our own racists: AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #73
I'm sure when FOX news gets wind of this AgingAmerican Nov 2014 #63
We need to send boots on the ground and anihilate ISIS darkangel218 Nov 2014 #69
I dont know if you are serious or joking. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #70
So when are you enlisting? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #77
Boots on the ground will probably help with their recruiting JonLP24 Nov 2014 #84
Yeah, seems totally legit Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #71
Not sure I'm buying this, TBH. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #72
Hahahaha. That's hilarious. It's the internet troll trifecta! morningfog Nov 2014 #75
Some of the dip shits in this country believe anything that shows up on the internet. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #76
ISIS is coming for you. neverforget Nov 2014 #80
There is a small, persistent belief among some mujahideen... Recursion Nov 2014 #79
You remember correctly. Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #85
Funny, though, how quickly that news disappeared, isn't it? (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #94
there's a better chance of you getting shot by the Ferguson cops than ISIS coming here. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #86
no kidding. It appears that the op scours the web for anything that portrays Muslims negatively cali Nov 2014 #87
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
58. I can write a note, too, and trash rags like the Mail will run with it...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:51 PM
Nov 2014

...if it says something that could conceivably fit its terror bogeyman propaganda scheme.

And people who hate Islam so much they'll pull anything out their ass will try to exploit it.

Say hi to Pam Geller for me.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
62. How about Newsweek and Washington Post ?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:04 PM
Nov 2014

see
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025878828#post13


and who said freak out?

You don't find it weird that ISIS wants to get involved in Ferguson?

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
7. The Daily Mail is a crap source.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

It's like the fucking New York Post or Washington Times. I never understand why people post their garbage here at DU.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. LOL. Like Ferguson police tweeting they are sending Officer Wilson to fight ISIS, it is propaganda.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

ISIS thanks you for the exposure.

Stop posting garbage from a garbage source.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. How about Newsweek?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:18 PM
Nov 2014

Online activists for Islamic State (ISIS) have been using social media coverage of riots in Ferguson, Missouri over the shooting of unarmed black teenager Mike Brown by a white Missouri police officer to promote their cause.

Using the hashtags related to the riots ISIS activists have been reaching out to residents of the predominantly black St. Louis suburb of Ferguson urging them to join the ISIS wave of Islamist violence.

http://www.newsweek.com/isis-urge-ferguson-rioters-be-malcolm-x-287257

Or the Washington Post

Islamic State activists on Twitter are using the Ferguson protests to encourage its supporters to carry out attacks in the United States.

A Washington-based nonprofit group that monitors the social media activity of pro-Islamic State accounts said Tuesday that a “prominent group” is telling followers to use Ferguson-related hashtags to spread ISIS propaganda and incite more violence.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2014/11/25/ferguson-protests-used-as-fuel-for-islamic-state-propaganda/

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
99. It's a great way to raise imaginary money.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

I've tried buying things with imaginary money however
and nobody will believe me.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
64. Reminds me of Charles Manson reaching out to unstable young hippies.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

Manson managed to lure in a couple of loyal followers.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
90. but who cares? only an absolute moron would take this threat as anything but
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:45 AM
Nov 2014

propaganda and capitalizing on this tragedy.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
92. Anyone who read through or commented on those articles
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:00 AM
Nov 2014

As well as those who commented on this thread.

The fact that ISIS (or whoever) is trying to capitalize on this tragedy and use it for their own propaganda purposes is, in and of itself, at least mildly interesting.

It speaks to the twitter world we live in and the way in which propaganda functions today as opposed to just ten years ago.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
93. I don't find it particularly compelling or meaningful.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:03 AM
Nov 2014

and I don't think propaganda has substantially changed even if the delivery of it has.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
11. I sense a slight flaw in the plan...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014
But said rioters must first declare their allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi


 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
40. lol
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:09 PM
Nov 2014

they might snag a few. More likely to get more recruits if
they offer to fight against the protesters. Some KKK guys
might go for it.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
74. But wouldn't the KKK have to make Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:53 PM
Nov 2014

an honorary Grand Wizard or Reluctant Dragon or whatever before they could pledge allegiance to him?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
12. Isn't that nice??
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:16 PM
Nov 2014

It's written in English..not only that, it's nice and neatly written. Wonder who actually wrote it??
I'm guessing not someone from the Middle East.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
24. True... but that also rules out most r/w morans
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:23 PM
Nov 2014


I imagine some of the hacks at these right wing propaganda mills that call themselves "news" outlets might be capable though.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. Yes, same folks that believed ebola was airborne will believe this. Fear is fun for some,
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:21 PM
Nov 2014

credibility and facts supportive of the fear are optional.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
95. Some people do...like
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:06 PM
Nov 2014

"The fact remains that fundamentalism within Islam, at this point in history, is a more powerful force than it is within any of the other major religions re the manifestation of violence."

oh wait....that's....you.

Glass houses and all.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
96. pretending you can't see the difference in what I wrote there and in my
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:13 PM
Nov 2014

position in general re Islam and yours, just doesn't cut it, dawg.

transparent, dawg.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
97. Yeah....suuuure....
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

Still trying to bait me....I wont give you the chance.

just to quote your EXACT words......"go away. please. just go"

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
15. They are REALLY desperate for attention.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:18 PM
Nov 2014

- constant military pressure
- somehow other muslims refuse to accept their caliph as the true caliph of all muslims
- Though they brought stability to some rundown parts of Iraq, they have no experience in administration and make things worse again by too much meddling.
- Despite what their propaganda tells, the locals only obey ISIS' laws at gunpoint. There is no happy muslim community in IS.
- ISIS has to grudgingly accept compromises to their fanatic doctrine to keep everyday-life running in their territories.
- Their occupied territories are running out of doctors and medical supplies. (BYOBD = "Bring your own blood-donor.&quot
- IS has recently begun issuing their own money. I think they are doing this so they can pay their own people with their worthless money while using the foreign currencies they get from trading oil for international deals for weapons.

Victory is right around the corner. Just a few more dead hostages and the Golden Age of Islam will return. Victory is right around the corner...

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
30. Their biggest problem is probably the PKK.........
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:33 PM
Nov 2014

That notorious "terrorist" organization on the US and NATO list of terrorist organizations. The ONLY ones that are actually kicking ISIS's ASS in Kobane.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
36. About the PKK...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:00 PM
Nov 2014

Their leader, Abdullah Öcalan, ran a racket in Germany by collecting protection money from immigrated Kurds.
That's why he got arrested in Germany and that's how he ultimately ended up in a turkish jail.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
46. Yep. And quite frankly, their politics are flawed too......
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:20 PM
Nov 2014

Too much anarchistic leanings. BUT they ARE the only ones giving ISIS a run for their money AND they're doing it without NATO help. And sometimes against active NATO resistance.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
48. PKK also supports the Ferguson resistance. I saw a photo of one their female
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:30 PM
Nov 2014

fighters holding a sign that pledged solidarity with #Ferguson. It was a very moving photograph and, wouldn't you know it, I can't lay my hands on it just now. Not going to spend all Thanksgivign Day in a mad, fruitless search for it, but have asked a couple Socialist comrades to be on the llokout and forward it to me if they see it.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
49. I believe I've seen that photo somewhere.......
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:36 PM
Nov 2014

There's a ton of true internationalism going on now days. People worldwide are seeing the same things, a system that's built to oppress the rest of us. That internationalism is now just in the solidarity stage on social media, but it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't get more serious as the situation gets more serious.

Response to Rhinodawg (Original post)

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
31. I believe it is reported as is
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:48 PM
Nov 2014

It is consistent with their propaganda.

As far as what ISIS is claiming, like I said its propaganda

ISIS is the best group in terms of using social media, no doubt, and in Iraq they already have the monopoly.'
https://news.vice.com/article/isis-fighters-and-their-friends-are-total-social-media-pros

Their videos also appear to have high production values
https://news.vice.com/article/isis-has-a-really-slick-and-sophisticated-media-department

Whoever is behind their propaganda campaign, there is a bit of a Hollywood touch.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
28. We know they can design good web pages; why are you surprised they can troll you too?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:31 PM
Nov 2014

Haven't you noticed that they have people in ISIS who know about the internet? They know how to attract attention, especially from click-bait sites like the Daily Mail, and use it for mutual advantage - the Mail gets page views, and you keep their name in people's consciousness and higher on the search page results. Which might help paint them as 'resistance to the wicked West' in some deluded would-be jihadist's eyes.

Well done.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
47. Why would you be surprised that Newsweek and the Washington Post publish click bait too?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:25 PM
Nov 2014

Hell, Newsweek pretty much has to - it's been on the verge of folding for years. But they did bother getting a quote from the Qulliam Foundation: '“bandwagoning national and international social media trends” is something ISIS are quite adept at'.

The Washington Post does manage to take a more sober view of it - "Ferguson protests used as fuel for Islamic State propaganda" and "it’s not unusual for the Islamic State, or other militant groups, to use current events to instigate their followers".

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
33. I give even the thugs in Ferguson more credit than to fall for ISIS who would skin them alive in a
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:55 PM
Nov 2014

heart beat. This is the danger of an unjust, and racist society. It makes everyone fertile ground for hate.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
83. I couldn't help but this also made me laugh
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:43 AM
Nov 2014


As someone who played first person shooters the "respawn" part made me laugh. Jannah is an eternal paradise, like a heaven.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
53. They're just pissed off that they are off the "front page"...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

"Reject Democracy".. They don't know too much about Americans do they...

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
56. I'm not grasping the concern nor the emotion. Seems like a guilty conscience
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:42 PM
Nov 2014

so aware of the systemic wrong that it supports that it legitimately fears such an offer from such refuse would be of interest to too many oppressed folks.

Seems like America needs to worry a whole fuckload more about it's self and less about sand lice on the other side of the world.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
60. amerikkan racists bring
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:53 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:30 PM - Edit history (3)

stuff like this down on their own heads. Nope appreciate the offer but stay over there and we will takr care of our problems. We are capable enough. And I also ask why would I replace one racist blood lusting religion for another blood lusting religion. No thanks,the good christians have been enough of an example of a bloodlusting, hateful religion. I'll just believe that, God is.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
73. And ISIS is actually a lot worst than even many of our own racists:
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:38 PM
Nov 2014

They have outright massacred the Kurds in damn near every place they've come across, that has any significant Kurdish population. For all our problems, be thankful that we do not, at this time, have a group this nasty, with the firepower and the will to back their murderous rage up.....yet.....

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
84. Boots on the ground will probably help with their recruiting
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:52 AM
Nov 2014

They want us over there, its part of their propaganda.

We had boots on the ground in Iraq for years which led to ISIS being created in the first place (also US run prisons didn't help which didn't allow detainees to challenge their detention--where the Baghdadi got most of his initial recruits)

The only way ISIS will be defeated is if poverty stricken Sunnis reject them.

On edit - the also have our weapons & equipment, I don't know how they acquired them (the butt stock of the M16 photo in the link as me curious as the military writes numbers on the butt stocks) but more weapons & equipment in the area will probably find their way into their hands.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
71. Yeah, seems totally legit
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:32 PM
Nov 2014


ISIS is just trying to piggyback off of the Ferguson media coverage, and if they are lucky, maybe get 1-2 suckers to try to join them...
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
72. Not sure I'm buying this, TBH.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, strange bedfellows have happened before, but one thing many people tend to forget is that most Islamists, to be truthful, are actually rather bigoted, and in many cases, even outright racist, against people not like them.....just look at what they did to the Kurds!

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
76. Some of the dip shits in this country believe anything that shows up on the internet.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 10:29 PM
Nov 2014

If you take this seriously you're completely lacking in any sort of rationality or critical thinking skills.




























BOO! Be scared of the Muslim and young black teen boogeymen!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
79. There is a small, persistent belief among some mujahideen...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 10:54 PM
Nov 2014

... that the African American population (the rate of whom follow Islam they seem to vastly overestimate anyways) is a usable fifth column for them. IIRC Bin Ladin mentioned it during his 2004 "message", but it was seen as a sop to the "near enemy" adherents (which philosophy eventually morphed into ISIS); the "far enemy" people like Bin Ladin and Zawahiri were much more skeptical of the idea (and, at any rate, tended to have a race problem of their own making, c.f. Al Qaeda's multiple early stumbles in sub-Saharan Africa).

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
87. no kidding. It appears that the op scours the web for anything that portrays Muslims negatively
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:40 AM
Nov 2014

while frequently feigning shock; all under the guise of "only hating violent extremists.

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