‘I am sorry for the loss of your son’

[noiretextatique]

"i did not know how old he was: i thought he was closer to my age, and i didn't know if he was armed."

The headline reads: Zimmerman apologizes to the family.

does this sound like an "apology" to you? in typical sociopathic fashion, he takes no responsibility for killing Trayvon Martin.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/ scroll down the page a bit.

[MADem]

1. "I am sorry I murdered your son" is closer to the mark. He didn't lose the kid. nt

[noiretextatique]

2. no remorse whatsoever

he's only sorry he got arrested.

[MADem]

5. They had him all sharp-dressed and cleaned up for court, didn't they?

And he got his "Get out of jail for a bail bondsman's lien on your parent's house" card.

Wonder if he had a nice little "concealed carry" pocket inside that pricey suit he had on?

He makes my blood curdle, to be blunt.

[noiretextatique]

9. yep...got him all dressed up

but he clearly has ZERO remorse for his actions. in typical racist fashion, he actually tries to blame Trayvon for appearing older than he was. and since he was black, i guess that means he was probably armed, in his racist mind.
i know...he makes my blood boil too 150k bail is outrageous.

[Control-Z]

16. But the Shackles

looked good.

[noiretextatique]

18. loving the shackles

i wish he had been remanded though. he should not be free on bail. perhaps he is not a danger to himself, but he is clearly a danger to others.

[Aerows]

29. He doesn't care

He got cleaned up for court, is getting away with murder, and his consequence is that the public noticed. Poor, poor Zimmerman. His poor life is forever altered, meanwhile someone else is in the grave, but it's all about poor Zimmerman.

[MADem]

36. I hope he doesn't get away with it.

I do think his lawyer is trying to plead this down to manslaughter, though. Murder 2 can still be a life sentence.

[RZM]

39. Few people facing murder two

Would say 'I'm sorry I murdered your son' at a bail hearing. No doubt his lawyer instructed him to say what he did. Acknowledge that Trayvon's death is sad and give a nod to the family, but don't use any language that points to you as responsible. And certainly don't use the word 'murder.'

This is pretty much par for the course.

[noiretextatique]

40. i understand

still he does not have an ounce of remorse.

[RZM]

42. I think it's a tricky balancing act

You have to appear at least somewhat concerned because you don't want to come off as cold and uncaring. But too much remorse might make you look guilty.

[noiretextatique]

44. it did not work very well for him

he came off and cold and uncaring.

[npk]

58. I agree he came off uncaring. But his weak ass apology served it's purpose

Which was to get him bail. He now will get the privilege of being with his family until this case is disposed of at trial, which is a hell of a lot more than most people in his shoes would get. No black man would be so lucky.

[southernyankeebelle]

4. I don't think right now anything Zimmerman could say will make the Martins forgive him. Only

time changes hearts. They look like people who will forgive because they know life goes on and if they allow this to eat at them then they can't move forward in life. I am sure at some time the Martins will meet with him. Out of the public eye.

[noiretextatique]

13. i doubt that...not until he takes responsibility for what he did

it's hard to forgive someone who does not acknowledge what he did.

[MADem]

20. I have to agree with you--the "loss" word was just too distancing, IMO.

Like he misplaced their hedge clippers, or something. And the "If he didn't look older than his age, he wouldn't have been killed by me" excuse stunk up the room, too.

[southernyankeebelle]

47. Thats true. But deep down he knows what he did.

[jmowreader]

59. In the setting where he was, he really couldn't have taken responsibility for it

If he would have went in there and said, "Mr. and Mrs. Martin, I'm sorry I killed your son," he would have instantly convicted himself.

You do not, under any circumstance, go into court and say you killed the person you're charged with killing.

He can apologize for murdering Mrs. Martin's son after he's convicted. (Which, assuming they get an impartial jury, is probably going to happen.)

[Number23]

56. EXACTLY.

[WingDinger]

3. All really good reasons why not to stalk.

could have said, sorry your son is a thug.

[noiretextatique]

41. i am a black person who lives in a predominantly black neighborhood

i see zimmerman walking down the street, and he doesn't look "right." so i call the cops, and they tell me not to pursue the person. i do so anyway. "something" happens and i pull out my gun and shoot zimmerman dead. my black ass would have been under the jail that very night, and likely charged with 1st degree murder.

[Number23]

57. "my black ass would have been under the jail that very night"

YOU KNOW IT.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. It's exactly that - in sociopathic fashion. nt

[noiretextatique]

26. something is seriously wrong with this guy

and he belongs behind bars.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

43. Oh, no doubt. He's not well. He has 2 arms, 2 legs and a head, but he's a nutjob. nt

[warrior1]

7. then

plead guilty to the crime.

[noiretextatique]

17. +1000

if you are sorry, then admit what you did, and pay the price.

[blm]

8. If Trayvon HAD a gun he'd have drawn it when he first noticed you stalking him.

So, your concern that you 'didn't know if he was armed' so you shot him before you made that determination is complete............BULLSHIT. Sociopathic bullshit.

[noiretextatique]

10. +1 he is revealing his racism

which is also a pathology.

[polly7]

15. Yep. nt.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

11. No.

It does not, though I think his attorney may have given him a very tight rein on what he could say -- Zimmerman cannot publicly admit to any type of liability now that he is on trial. As noted, Zimmerman did flat out tell a whopper when talking about how old he thought Trayvon was.

This is going to be an ugly case.

[noiretextatique]

14. probably...but listen to him

the man doesn't have an ounce of remorse.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

27. I agree about the remorse.

He's more worried about his own ass and how this has fucked up his life.

[laundry_queen]

28. How hard is it to word something so it sounds sincere?

Not very. He could've said something like, "I'm very sorry for the circumstances surrounding your son's death. If I could turn back the clock and change anything that would make your pain stop, I would. Your son's loss should never have happened." There, he's not admitting anything that he hasn't already admitted, and he sounds sincere.

His faux-pology translates to me (from sociopath-speak to normal-person speak) as "I'm sorry I got caught. And because I'm sorry that I'm now in jail, I'm going to apologize because yesterday you said you wouldn't meet with me unless I apologized, so now I'm apologizing so I look better to the judge. It wasn't really my fault you know, your son did look older than he was, even if I said differently before, I'm saying it this way now so I don't look like such a monster for killing a child. And besides, you can't really blame me for thinking a black guy was packing, c'mon! Aren't they all? So see, I'm not really responsible, and I'm just apologizing because my lawyer said it would make me look like I had a heart."

[Control-Z]

12. The old non-apology apology.

I'm sorry if the death of your son has caused you or anyone else pain.

[MADem]

22. Not "death"--"loss"--kind of like "Ooops, I lost that book you loaned me."

He can't even come to grips with the fact that he killed a kid.

[CreekDog]

33. nope, it's worse, kind of like, "Ooops, that book you loaned me was lost somehow".

see?

[MADem]

35. Certainly--he is working very hard to diminish his role in the murder of the teen. nt

[Control-Z]

52. Is he afraid he might

smile if he said it?

[MADem]

53. He seemed very glib when he made the statement, that's for sure. nt

[Life Long Dem]

19. No

It's a defense, and a lie. He told 911, Trayvon was in his late teens.

[noiretextatique]

21. good point

yet another lie.

[MADem]

23. WOW--that's incredible that he would LIE UNDER OATH with a tape to contradict him.

What sleaze!

[Skittles]

24. that is not an apology

that is the wistful regret of a paranoid gun nut

[noiretextatique]

25. his only regret is that it is 2012

not 1952. he would have gotten away with it then.

[ananda]

34. Then?

He's getting away with it now.

He's out on bond now, and the case against him looks completely mishandled... on purpose probably.

[noiretextatique]

37. correction noted

when you are right, you are right

[WI_DEM]

30. well, maybe you shouldn't have stalked him?

[CreekDog]

31. classic non-apology apology

not impressed.

[KG]

32. piss on george zimmerman

[noiretextatique]

38. triple piss on his apologists

if you can rationalize the murder of an unarmed teenager, you have some deep fng problems.

[HangOnKids]

46. Absolutely!

Add some shit in there too.

[fascisthunter]

50. so unfair to the psychopath!

[jwirr]

45. Not an apology - excuses.

[LadyHawkAZ]

48. "I'm sorry I got caught"

"I'm sorry you didn't buy my story. I'm sorry I'm in jail. I did not know I couldn't get away with this. I didn't realize people would care about the (black) kid I killed."

Not buying it.

[Zax2me]

49. He should have said ' I should have went home"

After I made call, I should have went home.
But he didn't.
Because that would have blown his case.
Would have been more truthful than what he said, though.

[JI7]

51. fucking scumbag murderous piece of shit

[shimonitanegi]

54. This apology is a flat out lie, means he isn't sorry.

He says "i did not know how old he was: i thought he was closer to my age,"
But he clearly stated on his 911 call that Martin was a late teen.

911 dispatcher:

How old would you say he is?

Zimmerman:

He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.

911 dispatcher:

Late teens?

[Number23]

55. "does this sound like an "apology" to you?" HELLL NO

That's what you say when someone's kid is killed in a car accident. Or by somebody else.

When YOU are the reason that someone is not able to hold their child in their arms anymore, "I'm sorry for your loss" is cowardly cop-out punk speak.

[noiretextatique]

66. it most certainly is

what i don't get about this guy is this: why not say it was an accident? that would be far more plausible than the story he is obviously making up. i think he knows he can rely on racism to push his ridiculous version of events, and to absolve himself of responsibility.

[Bolo Boffin]

60. What this "apology" reminded me of:

I saw a shocking documentary about the Catholic sexual abuse scandal. The kicker was one priest who was so evil, no other word, that he used the documentary filmers to try and gain access to his victims one more time, for an "apology." As I recall, without exception they turned him down.

That's what Zimmerman's attempt to apologize to Trayvon's family felt like to me. It was not at all out of concern for the family. It was an attempt to save his own miserable self. To do it in court when the family had declined his offer was the height of insensitivity. And to actually lie, flat out lie about the circumstances of the shooting while doing so?

If I never hear of Zimmerman speaking again, it will be too soon.

[soccer1]

61. "I did not know how old we was."

So, if George Zimmerman had known that Trayvon Martin was 17, he would not have shot and killed him? If he had known Trayvon was not armed, he would not have shot and killed him? Trayvon did not show any weapon. Zimmerman says that he was in mortal danger because Trayvon was bashing his head into a sidewalk. If he had known Trayvon was 17, he would not have feared for his life? Makes no sense. No sense at all. If you are in mortal danger, it would not matter how old the person is.

[noiretextatique]

62. it makes no sense because he is lying

he told the dispatcher Martin was in his late teens.

[soccer1]

63. Yes, I believe he is continuing his lies.

Guess Zimmerman forgot that small detail about what he said to the 911 dispatcher. Very convenient. The point I'm trying to make is that if Zimmerman truly, absolutely believed his life was in danger, what difference would it make how old the person was? Hope the prosecution can use his statement during the trial.

[noiretextatique]

65. he's playing to racists

who believe black men are inherently dangerous and threatening. that's why he brought up his age. and that's why all the rw trolls are whining about the media showing pictures of Trayvon when he was younger. it's all very transparent.

[MelungeonWoman]

64. It was more like an apallogy.

I was apalled when I heard it. He expressed no remorse whatsoever.