GOP Goal - Completely Bankrupt US Government. Explode The Debt To $30 Trillion If Necessary.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The latest GOP tax cut that is NOT paid for BTW is a sure indicator that the GOP does NOT care about our debt. In fact such a cut would probably erase ALL the gains under sequestration. Americans forget the GOP is determined to BANKRUPT the US so badly that NO money will be left to run the government, particularly anything domestic. That includes all domestic spending and even elimination of the EPA, DOL and DOE. Remember that.

They only want money for DOD and Homeland Security. THAT IS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS my friend. Anything else would be sent off or sold to private corporations. That includes the National Parks and national infrastructure. US citizens WON'T own anything anymore. That includes our water and natural resources.

It does not take the village idiot to understand what the GOP is all about. And they will further turn our labor market to SHIT. Who has stopped outsourcing legislation and who REALLY favors unlimited immigration work visas?

In their scheme of things only WAGE EARNERS are supposed to pay taxes. Business, corporations and the super right PAY NONE.

Wait until January and see what these bastards are up to. If they did get their way and totally bankrupt the Treasury we most likely would not have any money for DOD either. OF COURSE CONGRESS WOULD GET PAID!!!!!

[BlueJazz]

1. Don't believe I've ever seen a group of people that can't get it through their heads...

(As most Democrats can/will) that "Gee, after seeing the results, maybe I was wrong about that"

The republicans remind me of a lousy horse handicapper that goes to the track EVERY day and mostly loses but still would never, ever figure out..(perhaps I'm doing something wrong)

[world wide wally]

10. The worst part is that other people keep paying him for some "hot tips"

[BlueJazz]

36. Little story. I knew a horse owner once. I'd go to the track once in a while with him.

I asked him one night the obvious question: "Are these things fixed sometimes"
He said "Well, I'll tell you this..some people can get you kill for 5 grand if they want to...You don't think they would fix a horse race for 50 grand?"

I shut up.

[RufusTFirefly]

18. They understand things perfectly.

They're doing everything right.
And things are going really well for them.

Once you finally abandon the fairy tale that most of Congress is working in the public interest, things will become a lot clearer.

But that first step is a difficult and disorienting one.

The second step is the realization that many Democrats are complicit.
Take Senator Feinstein's husband, for example. He is overseeing the sell-off of U.S. Post Offices.
Those are OUR public buildings, and they're very valuable.

[reddread]

20. thanks for that

actually BREAKING the treasury, ceasing and undermining tax remittances could be
the quickest cure for all the graft and theft and waste that fuels and characterizes
our tax dollars at work.
the republicans expect to steal a considerable amount and will never slaughter that sacred cow.
what would they use us for if not to refill those coffers?
maybe there is something to that FEMA Deathcamp talk?

[Jackpine Radical]

21. Absolutely, Rufus. Once again, someone has saved me

from the need launch into a rant.

And I actually didn't know that about DiFi's hubby.

[RufusTFirefly]

29. You're welcome. Don't get me started on Feinstein.

Feinstein's husband, Richard C. Blum, is chairman of C.B. Richard Ellis, or CBRE, the real estate firm hired in 2011 to serve as the exclusive agent to the Postal Service, selling facilities from post offices to plots of land worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Blum's investment firm, Blum Capital Partners, is the real estate company's fifth-largest institutional shareholder, according to Factcheck.org.

Huffington Post
(Please note that the article includes adamant denials by Feinstein's office and CBRE.)

Meanwhile, "Democrat" Janet Napolitano is putting another nail in the coffin of our once-proud University of California system by making college even more unaffordable.

UC Regents Approve Systemwide Tuition Increase

And who is on the Board of Regents of UC? Richard Blum.

[BlueJazz]

35. What you say is true but as one other poster pointed out, if things get TOO worse, the rich will ...

..start to feel the pain (well...) and the money, bonds, stocks may bring about a slight realization about the old adage "Who's going to buy the merchandise ?"

And also if the people start to realize how bad they're getting screwed, the Ferguson Riots may seem like an Old Lady Tea Party.

OR...maybe I'm wrong and just want a better world and can't see the light (or Darkness)

[madokie]

2. Pretty much the plan I'd say

[Triana]

3. GOP will also dissolve USPS, Social Security and Medicare - privatize it all.

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Either AmerIdiots didn't know what they were voting for, didn't care, or didn't vote.

Anyone in their 50s - at least - needn't plan on getting their Soc Security Money back when they retire. There will be no Soc. Security. Your money will be given to Wall St to gamble with.

[abelenkpe]

4. Discussed politics over holiday with family and friends

And they seem to think the GOP will pretend to be nice for the next two years concentrating on repairing their image in order to win the presidency. Then they'll go about unravelling much of what is left of government. These are all 30-45 year olds. What was frightening was they all pretty much felt dems would lose the next election too.

[Triana]

5. If the Democratic Party and their leaders, and Dems in office remain as clueless ...

... as they are now, they will absolutely lose the next election and every one after that.

[woo me with science]

7. Complicit, not clueless.

We misunderstand politics and our politicians in 2014 when we assume their goal is always to win. That was the old system, democracy.

In oligarchy, the goal is using the two parties you own in whichever way best furthers the corporate agenda of the oligarchy.

These are not hapless Democrats with bad strategy in a functioning representative democracy. This is oligarchy pretending to be democracy. Corporate Democrats did everything possible to depress turnout in the midterms, from their utter lack of a positive agenda, to the outright campaign to demoralize and insult the base online, to the "Accept Doom" DCCC email campaign:

DCCC email campaign: "Accept defeat"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025736826

I believe the PTB have decided it's time for a Republican figurehead next time, and corporatists and propagandists in both parties are working to ensure that it happens. The illusion of democracy is nearly dead, and will continue to die as all the elements of fascism continue to be put into place by our bipartisan, purchased cabal of a government.

But putting a Republican in next time will at least offer a boost to the propaganda machine. Six additional years of relentless, proactive expansion of predatory corporatism, warmongering, and the police/surveillance state under a Democratic administration has woken too many people up to the truth: that corporate money floods BOTH sides of the aisle, and the parties are working in collusion for Wall Street. That is dangerous for the oligarchy.

By installing a Republican next time, the Third Way corporate shills and mouthpieces online will be able to put on their liberal costumes again and pretend to wail alongside the rest of us as the last vestiges of the democratic nation we once knew are drowned in the toilet, this time by Republicans. Of course, all that "opposition" will be carefully and mysteriously futile in terms of policy.

But the important thing is that Dems will be consistently SAYING the right things again, and looking like the firebrand populist party we need them to be.

And the people will be reassured that we really do still have a democracy, we can stop all this silly talk about oligarchy and needing fundamental change and such, and we can all go home and watch "Hunger Games" and grouse because our only problem will be that Republicans are in office for a little while and we need to get them out and the Third Way Democrats back in.

[jalan48]

17. I think you nailed it.

The Republicans and Democrats can't overtly dismantle popular social programs like Social Security and Medicare but if the government "goes broke" they will have the excuse to make radical cuts in them and then phase them out entirely. It has been their strategy since Reagan. Welcome to the New World Order-US style.

[djean111]

19. Nailed it.

[paleotn]

23. Agreed.....

....for all practical purposes we are close to no longer being a representative democracy, only a useful illusion of one. Sure many of us take the time to actually vote, but the bulk of the voting population is deeply propagandized by corporate funded bullshit or distracted by cool, shinny things, they put forth little effort in comprehending what is actually being done to them economically and politically. No one who would seriously rock the fascist boat can gain any significant political power, even if they do manage to get elected. Folks like Bernie Sanders are just voices crying out in the wilderness, with little to no influence on real policy.

[Scuba]

37. Yep, you nailed it woo. Thanks.

[abelenkpe]

27. That was exactly what they were talking about

Surprised me as these people rarely talk politics at all and while vote for democrats would have such a dim outlook on their chances of winning in the future. Everyone was really disappointed. Main gripes or concerned: jobs and education.

[elleng]

6. as Grover Norquist said,

'My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.'

[vlyons]

8. Ayn Rand is winning

The virtue of selfishness at its best!

[Mika]

9. I'm afraid of Americans

[jwirr]

11. Yes, and what they do in the USA will be done to the world.

[rhett o rick]

12. The GOP want's to do to America what Mitt Romney does to corporations. Put them in debt

and steal their resources.

[lonestarnot]

13. He likes firing people that work for him you know.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/davidbowie/imafraidofamericans.html

[Maineman]

24. "Put is in debt and steal our resources." (12) That really really nails it !!!!!!!!!

[Snarkoleptic]

31. We've seen this tactic before-

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
Interview here...

[libodem]

14. They want Private Corporate Rule

And no regulations. In other words Republofacism.

[Snarkoleptic]

32. Government of, by and for the 1%

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers

Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

[SunSeeker]

15. It's all part of the GOP Shock Doctrine playbook. nt

[greatlaurel]

16. It is the Shock Doctrine brought to the US.

These corporations no longer want to invest in manufacturing facilities. It is massively more profitable to steal public tax dollars rather than actually make a product to sell. Just look at the charter school industry. They are just stealing school tax dollars and not even bothering to try to educate kids.

These entities are robbing the public blind as quickly as possible. At some point there will be no more money to steal after the social security and public pension funds have been stolen. They will move on to the next victim like every parasite does.

[hedda_foil]

38. Meanwhile, the banks have virtually cornered the market in physical commodities

As IDemo posted on Wednesday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014947779

Senate Report Criticizes Goldman and JPMorgan Over Their Roles in Commodities Market

Source: New York Times

A two-year Senate-led investigation is throwing back the curtain on the outsized and sometimes hidden sway that Wall Street banks have gained over the markets for essential commodities like oil, aluminum and coal.

The Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations found that Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase assumed a role of such significance in the commodities markets that it became possible for the banks to influence the prices that consumers pay while also securing inside information about the markets that could be used by the banks’ own traders.

Bankers from both firms, along with other industry executives and regulators, will testify about the allegations at hearings on Thursday and Friday.

The hearings will cover everything from the conditions at a Goldman-owned coal mine in Colombia to the airline fuel arrangements that Morgan Stanley struck with United Airlines.

Read more: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/senate-report-criticizes-goldman-and-jpmorgan-over-their-roles-in-commodities-market/
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[Martin Eden]

22. Huge budget deficits ARE ESSENTIAL to their agenda

Nearly all Republicans in Washington have signed Grover Norquist's "no taxes" pledge, and he has explicitly stated their long term goal is to shrink government to a size that can be drowned in a bathtub. They want to repeal FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society. This means getting rid of Social Security and Medicare, but these programs are very popular among the voting public and a frontal assault to eliminate them would be disaster for the GOP.

So their strategy is to make these programs "unaffordable" and force "hard choices" in the guise of fiscal necessity. And these hard choices will never come about without Huge. Budget. Deficits.

All of which goes a long way towards explaining why the policies of a Party that bills itself as fiscally "conservative" always end up exploding the deficit.

[tooeyeten]

25. With a purpose

Increase wealth of 1% for 100s of years into the future.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

26. Of course. They claim the country is broke so the 1% will put their money in the stock market....

Instead of the bond market which Republicans call "IOUs".

[sendero]

28. It's all broken already...

... there is no way the Federal Government can ever repay its debt.

If interest rates rose merely a couple percent, the Federal Government could not even keep up with the INTEREST payments on the debt.

The idea that another 5 trillion or another 10 trillion will make any difference I don't buy. And the idea that all entitlement payments will end is another story I don't buy. They may and probably will get cut some, but people starving in the streets is not in anyone's interest.

[indepat]

30. Wish I could rip your OP apart, but its main assertions are as accurate and true as the gospels

of Jesus Christ. All not grasping these eventualities are either ignorant or a fool or both imo.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

33. Is the tea party dead or in hybernation til the next Dem POTUS?

Wall Street Rampage!

[vlyons]

34. Ayn Rand is winning

The virtue of selfishness at its best!