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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:26 PM Nov 2014

Does this officially make Rudy G's daughter a "thug"???

Giuliani's daughter arrested on shoplifting charge

New York (CNN) -- The daughter of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani was arrested after police said she shoplifted items at a cosmetic store.

Caroline Giuliani, 20, was charged with one count of petty larceny after the incident at a Sephora skincare and makeup store Wednesday, the New York Police Department said.

She is the younger of Giuliani's two children with his ex-wife, Donna Hanover, a television reporter and actress.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/05/new.york.giuliani.daughter.arrest/

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Does this officially make Rudy G's daughter a "thug"??? (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2014 OP
Well if white people would stop stealing from each other... Doctor_J Nov 2014 #1
no doubt rudy taught her not to "reach for her waistband". unblock Nov 2014 #2
I blame it on those "jazz cigarettes" jeffrey_pdx Nov 2014 #41
Seems to run in the family, I guess. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #3
This story is from August 2010 FWIW LiberalElite Nov 2014 #5
and??? CatWoman Nov 2014 #6
and she has yet to be called a "thug" - in fact LiberalElite Nov 2014 #7
Actually, it does. Her grandfather did time in Sing Sing for robbery RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #23
White folks kids aren't thugs just making mistakes. rbrnmw Nov 2014 #4
You do understand the difference between "shoplifting" and "robbery", don't you? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #10
yes I do rbrnmw Nov 2014 #12
however, the same can't be said about the Ferguson PD CatWoman Nov 2014 #14
exactly rbrnmw Nov 2014 #16
You're zentrum Nov 2014 #26
HuH? Yea!! busterbrown Nov 2014 #30
. Agschmid Nov 2014 #8
I saw that stupid crap CatWoman Nov 2014 #13
Are any of Rudy's kids NOT thugs? Derek V Nov 2014 #9
+1! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #46
how dare you even think that?! clearly this is youthful indiscretion!!!! noiretextatique Nov 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #15
LOL CatWoman Nov 2014 #17
that was quick thanks MIRT rbrnmw Nov 2014 #20
said the two post wonder noiretextatique Nov 2014 #21
GTFOH with that bs rbrnmw Nov 2014 #19
Cosmetics #3 On Most Stolen Items List otohara Nov 2014 #18
If she was poor or black for sure! But my question is WHY? There is enough money in her family jwirr Nov 2014 #22
Maybe she just wanted to surprise her dad RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #25
Only if she's black Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #24
Rudy enid602 Nov 2014 #27
Rudy enid602 Nov 2014 #28
Where are the white leaders? bluestateguy Nov 2014 #29
It would only be right for.. busterbrown Nov 2014 #32
"Where's Peyton Manning?" alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #35
Miley Cyrus?? 7962 Nov 2014 #37
Keep Manning out of this. Raul Hernandez Nov 2014 #39
She comes from a troubled home Bucky Nov 2014 #31
Yep. Broken home, dad not around much Nevernose Nov 2014 #34
Who Gives a Shit!!! busterbrown Nov 2014 #36
To be fair, she does come from a broken home with an absentee father alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #33
Did she bitch-slap the shop owner? nt Cryptoad Nov 2014 #38
how are we to know? CatWoman Nov 2014 #42
Do you suppose... Oilwellian Nov 2014 #40
I hope the NYPD didn't rough her up too badly Tsiyu Nov 2014 #43
MMM...finally acting out? Gloria Nov 2014 #44
2010 story but interesting given papa g's recent comments about black crime Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #45
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
1. Well if white people would stop stealing from each other...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:29 PM
Nov 2014


Seriously, if she'd jaywalked right after this incident, she might have been blown away by a cop fearing her "demonic" look.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
3. Seems to run in the family, I guess.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:36 PM
Nov 2014

She better be glad this is 2014 New York, and not 1914 Macon, Georgia, or Jackson, Miss. or they'd be howling bloody murder about how Italians are all born-and-bred criminals, or potential future mobsters, etc.....

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. and she has yet to be called a "thug" - in fact
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:44 PM
Nov 2014

the story sank like a stone in NYC. Where'd you dig it up?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
23. Actually, it does. Her grandfather did time in Sing Sing for robbery
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:40 PM
Nov 2014

In 1934, Harold Giuliani was busted in a botched two-man robbery of a milkman. The accomplice got away. Giuliani made things worse for himself by initially giving a false name. Although no one in Giuliani's family had a prayer of posting his $5,000 bail, apparently he had friends who could. Three days after being arrested, he was bailed out by one Valentine Spielman.

Meanwhile, the milkman, apparently after being visited by several people at 4 in the morning who threatened him, recanted his original story and said that it was the other man, not Giuliani, who had pressed a gun to his stomach. How conveeeeeeenient! The sudden change in the victim's testimony meant a reduction in charges against Giuliani, who pled guilty to one count of robbery in the third degree.

Although Giuliani's lawyer pled for leniency, the judge was unmoved. "I am a very sympathetic judge, he explained, "but I have no sympathy for robbers with guns." He was sentenced to five years in Sing Sing, not only for his participation in an armed robbery but because he steadfastly refused to identify his accomplice and because he had originally given the arresting officer a false name. Eight years after his dad was released, little Rudy was born.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
4. White folks kids aren't thugs just making mistakes.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:40 PM
Nov 2014

notice it was called shoplifting not robbery only black kids rob stores when they shoplift

sorry but it's true

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
26. You're
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

....missing his point. Of course he understands. It's that media and the power structure uses incendiary language to talk about the same crime, depending on race. And what's the point of the sarcasm?

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
30. HuH? Yea!!
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:30 PM
Nov 2014

Michael Brown Robbed the store.. Ms Giuluiani just had a slip in judgement......
Fuck that!!!

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
11. how dare you even think that?! clearly this is youthful indiscretion!!!!
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:56 PM
Nov 2014
like the DUI bush got in his 30's!

Response to CatWoman (Original post)

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
18. Cosmetics #3 On Most Stolen Items List
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:01 PM
Nov 2014

I remember working in a retail store that carried cosmetics and we were told that years ago.

Lot's of lady thugs out there not getting "shot" for stealing.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. If she was poor or black for sure! But my question is WHY? There is enough money in her family
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:16 PM
Nov 2014

that she could buy the damned store and she shoplifts?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
25. Maybe she just wanted to surprise her dad
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:48 PM
Nov 2014


If she had charged the purchase, he might've seen the bill, and that would've spoiled the surprise.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
24. Only if she's black
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:43 PM
Nov 2014

Isn't that how it works?

I see Rudy wants to "go after" the witnesses who contradicted McCulloch's "facts." I want to "go after" McCulloch. There has to be some fraud statute that covers misusing the Grand Jury like that.

Only a white collar thug would do a thing like that.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
27. Rudy
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:09 PM
Nov 2014

And yet Rudy was literally ranting last week on MTP saying 80% of the crime in his city is committed by blacks, and that's why you have to have white cops in black neighborhoods. He really did say that.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
28. Rudy
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:11 PM
Nov 2014

And yet Rudy was literally ranting last week on MTP saying 80% of the crime in his city is committed by blacks, and that's why you have to have white cops in black neighborhoods. He really did say that.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
29. Where are the white leaders?
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:23 PM
Nov 2014

Where are the leaders of the white community? Why won't they tell their kids to knock it off? Where's Rush Limbaugh? Where's George Will? Where's Miley Cyrus? Where's Peyton Manning?

Why won't the so-called white leaders say anything what what is happening in their community?

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
32. It would only be right for..
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:36 PM
Nov 2014

Civil Rights Leaders hold a press conference to call out Ms. Giuliani’s hypocrisy...
He really is a disgusting human being.. Never caught an ounce of shit for putting command center down near Twin Towers.. Asshole!!!

 

Raul Hernandez

(78 posts)
39. Keep Manning out of this.
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:47 PM
Nov 2014

I know he's a Republican, but he's currently not involved in politics right now.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
34. Yep. Broken home, dad not around much
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:37 PM
Nov 2014

When will white leaders finally step up and condemn this kind of behavior?

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
36. Who Gives a Shit!!!
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:39 PM
Nov 2014

Really!! Like Rudy has compassion/empathy for anything/anyone.. Especially if they are shaded differently!!
Fuck him... Big Time!!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
33. To be fair, she does come from a broken home with an absentee father
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:36 PM
Nov 2014

Tut-tut. If only Rudy practiced some family values....

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
42. how are we to know?
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
Nov 2014

different races; different standards.

oh, yeah:

was she a good thug or a bad thug?

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
43. I hope the NYPD didn't rough her up too badly
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:13 PM
Nov 2014

Zero tolerance, Rudy. Gotta nip it in the bud.

And you know, if these Italian parents would raise their kids right, the shop owners wouldn't have to worry about greasy, sneaky little thieves named Caroline. What is that? Some kind of gang name?


Hope she didn't get a few broken ribs or a black eye or anything.

Like Michael Brown: "SHE'S NO ANGEL" and she's lucky the NYPD didn't gun her down right there.

Disclaimer: One of my parents is Italian. The Italians in my family are mostly snobs who look down their noses on everyone else, although none are criminals like Guliani.







Gloria

(17,663 posts)
44. MMM...finally acting out?
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 12:21 AM
Nov 2014

Hell, Rudy was shacking up with another woman while Hanover stayed in Gracie Mansion....

Family values, GOP style!!!!

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
45. 2010 story but interesting given papa g's recent comments about black crime
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 12:47 AM
Nov 2014

Edit ' this is an old story

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