Giuliani: Blacks Have 'Responsibility' To Reduce Need For Police Presence

[RandySF]

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani again weighed in on tensions between members of the black community and police officers in an appearance on "Fox News Sunday."

Giuliani said that he thinks that some police officers do discriminate against blacks, but he went on to say that blacks are partially responsible for that.

"There is more interaction and more unfair interaction among police officers, white and black, in the black community than in the white community. And I think some of that responsibility is on the police department and on police departments to train their officers better and to make their police departments much more diversified," Giuliani said Sunday. "But I think just as much, if not more, responsibility is on the black community to reduce the reason why the police officers are assigned in such large numbers to the black community."

Giuliani then brought up crime statistics similar to those he cited a week ago.

"It’s because blacks commit murder eight times more per capita than any other group in our society. And when I assigned police officers with Commissioner Bratton and Commissioner Safir, we did it based on statistics. We didn’t do it based on race. If there were a lot of murders in a community, we put a lot of police officers there," he said.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/giuliani-responsibility-black-community

[hrmjustin]

1. I see Rudy is not even trying to hide his racism these days.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

4. And that is a good thing, I want all of them to be more open and honest, including on DU

Go ahead and just admit that you have these type feelings, please, for fuck sake

[MineralMan]

2. Moronic.

Giuliani is a moron if he believes that.

[BootinUp]

3. Giuliani is partially responsible too

as we all are.

[nc4bo]

5. No dumbass, it's a symptom of a broken society, political system and hate politics.

I'd love to.....just nevermind.

[Archae]

6. Is there any evidence this sentence is true?

I really doubt it.

"It’s because blacks commit murder eight times more per capita than any other group in our society."

[nc4bo]

9. Wonder how much of that is buying or selling a little weed?

Or having some crack rocks in their pockets.

I guess it depends on where ghoul is getting his stats.

Such a hateful turd. He is part of the problem.

[Archae]

10. Or the usual reason for busting blacks..."resisting."

Guy is on the ground, not moving, but the cop still keeps yelling "Stop resisting!"

Seen that many times in videos.

[nc4bo]

12. Absolutely true. It's one of their favorites to stack up charges. nt

[madville]

14. This is the primary source, they are real statistics

"The report, Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008 (NCJ 236018), was written by BJS statisticians Alexia Cooper and Erica L. Smith. Following publication, the report can be found at http://www.bjs.gov."

That's where his "93% of murdered blacks are killed by other black people so why is no one outraged about that?" comment originated from as well.

They are real statistics from federal government studies, primarily the Bureau of Justice, like a black male is also 6 times more likely than a white male to be a murder victim.

[nc4bo]

16. Thanks madville...

Now I'd like to ask Rudy what he's done to improve or worsen this problem?

He is such a pig.

[XemaSab]

7. He has a responsibility to shut the fuck up

What a troll.

[olddots]

8. time to reduce Rudy Doodyheads presence

He is like a wart .

[Spazito]

11. Geez, he is a racist POS...

and the media shouldn't give him ANY airtime to spew his hateful garbage, imo.

[easychoice]

13. Rudy,Rudy,Rudy...You lying sack of shit!!!!

Here:

Overview

Of the 12,664 murder victims in 2011 for which supplemental data were received, most (77.6 percent) were male. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 1.)
Concerning murder victims for whom race was known, 50.0 percent were black, 46.0 percent were white, and 2.6 percent were of other races. Race was unknown for 175 victims. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 2.)
Single victim/single offender situations accounted for 48.4 percent of all murders for which the UCR Program received supplemental data. (See Expanded Homicide Data Table 4.)
Of the offenders for whom gender was known, 89.3 percent were males. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 3.)
Of the offenders for whom race was known, 52.4 percent were black, 45.2 percent were white, and 2.4 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,077 offenders. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 3.)

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

[madville]

18. By using those numbers

7 or 8 times more likely per capita appears to be a correct number (just doing the math in my head, it might be like 7.6 and they are rounding it up to 8).

That's considering a 13% black population and a white population of 78%, including Hispanics which it appears they did to reach their 45.2% number.

[easychoice]

19. OK...

Thank You for the insight.

[spanone]

15. fuck giuliani...the man who CASHED IN on 911...fuck him.

[malaise]

17. Yeh right

Wasn't his police commissioner sent to prison?

Fuck off noun verb and 9/11!