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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:20 PM Dec 2014

REMEMBER When Republicans LOVED Hillary Clinton?


Today they may be sketching out their best attacks on the Democrats’ leading potential candidate for 2016, but once Dick Cheney, Paul Ryan, et al. had plenty of nice things to say.




My, my,....beloved by so many reTHUGS.........


For the better part of a quarter-century, Hillary Clinton has loomed over American politics as a hate figure for many on the right—and she seems poised to re-assert her dominant position in right-wing demonology in 2016. But there was a time, stretching roughly from her concession of the Democratic presidential nomination to Barack Obama in 2008 to the Benghazi attack in 2012, when conservatives changed their tune on Clinton. In fact, plenty of Republicans even said nice things about her. Here are seven she can look back on as she weathers the attacks of the next presidential cycle.



Dick Cheney

The former vice president is not known as a soft touch, but for a brief moment in 2011, he seemed to hold Clinton in high regard. During an appearance on Fox News Sunday, Cheney told host Chris Wallace of Clinton: “I have a sense that she is one of the more competent members of the current administration, and it would be interesting to speculate about how she might perform were she to be president.” Cheney also suggested that, if elected, Clinton might be easier for Republicans to work with than Obama.


Paul Ryan

Republican superstar Paul Ryan is still mooted as potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate. But even if he doesn’t run, the Wisconsin congressman will be a major force in the GOP as the next chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee. Back in January 2013, though, he was fresh off a losing presidential ticket when he suggested that Hillary Clinton in the White House would have ensured a return to a balanced budget. “Look, if we had a Clinton presidency, if we had Erskine Bowles as chief of staff of the White House or president of the United States, I think we would have fixed this fiscal mess by now,” he said. “That’s not the kind of presidency we’re dealing with right now.”


Carly Fiorina

While Ryan is still on the fence about running for president, Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard chief executive and 2010 U.S. Senate candidate in California, seems to be going full steam ahead toward a bid for the White House in 2016. Yet Fiorina, who seems to be positioning herself as a GOP alternative to Hillary Clinton who could appeal to female voters if nominated, has her own history of complimenting the former secretary of state. In 2008, while campaigning for John McCain, Fiorina said: “Having started as a secretary and eventually become a chief executive officer, I not only have great admiration and respect for Hillary Clinton and her candidacy and her leadership, but I also have great empathy, I must tell you, for what she went through.”


Orrin Hatch

The most senior Republican in the U.S. Senate, Orrin Hatch will not only lead the Senate Finance Committee in 2015 but will become president pro tempore of the Senate, making him third in line in presidential succession. In 2010, when Clinton was being floated as a possible Supreme Court nominee and Hatch was the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Utah senator said of his former colleague: “I happen to like Hillary Clinton; I think she’s done a good job for the… secretary of state’s position, and I have high respect for her and think a great deal of her.”


John McCain

The 2008 Republican presidential nominee and longtime Arizona senator has long had a cordial relationship with Hillary Clinton. Indeed, Clinton once described McCain as “her favorite Republican.” The affinity goes both ways. In 2011, at a breakfast sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor, McCain praised Clinton as “an international star” who has done “a tremendous job” as secretary of state. He also later told to CBS News, “I respect Secretary/Senator Clinton; I respect her views.”


Condoleezza Rice

Rice has praised Clinton, who succeeded her as secretary of state in 2009, on several occasions and said repeatedly that Clinton was “doing a fine job.” In 2010, she told Bill O’Reilly: “Hillary Clinton is someone I’ve known for a long, long time. She’s a patriot. I think she’s doing a lot of the right things.” Rice then added, “She’s very tough... and she’s got the right instincts.” George W. Bush’s top foreign-policy aide stood by those words two years later, when she described Clinton as “great” to Ohio Republicans.


Lindsey Graham

Perhaps no Republican has spoken more highly of Hillary Clinton than the South Carolina senator and prominent foreign-policy hawk, who went so far as to describe the then-secretary of state as “a good role model, one of the most effective secretary of states, greatest ambassadors for the American people that I have known in my lifetime” in May 2012. The Republican also went out of his way to praise Clinton to The New York Times three months later, saying, “She is extremely well-respected throughout the world, handles herself in a very classy way, and has a work ethic second to none.”




http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/01/remember-when-republicans-loved-hillary-clinton.html
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REMEMBER When Republicans LOVED Hillary Clinton? (Original Post) Segami Dec 2014 OP
Some of us are old enough to remember the impeachment of Bill Clinton. They don't msanthrope Dec 2014 #1
Some of us are old enough to remember the impeachment of Bill Clinton. They don't msanthrope Dec 2014 #2
I don't believe that Segami Dec 2014 #7
Hillary tried to pass universal healthcare samsingh Dec 2014 #29
They love her alright and her Third Way ways. Is it any wonder, being the Wall Street corporatist that she is? InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #40
They expressed without reserve.... Segami Dec 2014 #41
You mean, like this morning? Last week? Easter time? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #3
Love her? Hardly! leftofcool Dec 2014 #4
This is what makes her so popular among some "Democrats". nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #5
i don't believe a word they say about anyone. spanone Dec 2014 #6
I can't read that unrepentant and eloquent passion as anything other than a marriage proposal... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #8
And she loves them back. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #9
Damn right she does! Segami Dec 2014 #10
Ick. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #15
She was SOS and was presenting him with an award. Beacool Dec 2014 #21
Another award? O Henry is popular! LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #37
Then there was that republican false-flag astroturf operation called PUMA Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #11
I remember when Republicans loved Liz Warren for voting for them, donating to them and supporting Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #12
You shouldn't go around Segami Dec 2014 #16
Why not? Liz Warren and her precious Republicans assumed all sorts of bigoted shit about my Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #36
Really lame. Almost camp, but not quite. Scuba Dec 2014 #20
You dont know that Elizabeth Warren voted for Geo H.W. INdemo Dec 2014 #38
By her friends (Rupert Murdoch) shall you know her. (2006) Divernan Dec 2014 #13
I can't help but shake my head in amusement. Beacool Dec 2014 #14
So she is going to help change the fact that a few dozen people own more liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #26
Neither would Sanders or Warren. Beacool Dec 2014 #27
Sanders and Warren would fight for a living wage and fight for bank regulation. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #28
They would give nice speeches and the Congress we gave them would spit in their eye. Sound familiar? Hekate Dec 2014 #34
All our saviors have magic wands, but when they don't use them we hate hate hate them.... Hekate Dec 2014 #33
Yeah, that worked out well...... Beacool Dec 2014 #49
They never loved her Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #17
Jamie and Lloyd love her too. Scuba Dec 2014 #18
It will be Business-as-usual Segami Dec 2014 #22
Remember when DUers supported Democrats?...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #19
That must have been a looong time ago. Beacool Dec 2014 #23
Remember when Democrats supported the People? You know, real Democrats .... Scuba Dec 2014 #24
LOL! Segami Dec 2014 #25
Bill was governor of Arkansas at the time. Beacool Dec 2014 #30
There's a lot of room between spitting on and having a beer with ... Scuba Dec 2014 #39
and to willingly be 'adopted' by that criminal and racist... LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #47
I'm no Clinton fan but I agree with you. Jim Lane Dec 2014 #53
Exactly. Beacool Dec 2014 #54
+++++++++++ still_one Dec 2014 #52
I remember when the GOP accused her of murder & other nasty things. They will be back at it shortly. Hekate Dec 2014 #31
They are so close to the prize... Mike Nelson Dec 2014 #32
Yes they said nice things about her. i am still voting for her. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #35
I remember when they were afraid of her... BootinUp Dec 2014 #42
No, not really kydo Dec 2014 #43
In life one thing I've learned is madokie Dec 2014 #44
They don't love Hillary. They hated her then and they hate her now Autumn Dec 2014 #45
Of course they don't love her... Segami Dec 2014 #46
If a republican wins the 1% and the MIC do better and the poor get knocked down further. Autumn Dec 2014 #48
Rush helped Obama beat Hillary by telling his audience they should vote for the black guy because kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #50
It is all bullshit. That is why they treated her so well during her health care plan presentation still_one Dec 2014 #51
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. Some of us are old enough to remember the impeachment of Bill Clinton. They don't
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

love Hilary..they hated her then, but now, they fear her.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
2. Some of us are old enough to remember the impeachment of Bill Clinton. They don't
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

love Hilary..they hated her then, but now, they fear her.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
7. I don't believe that
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:33 PM
Dec 2014

...they fear her for one bit!


Murdoch's response to a Fortune magazine question on whether he could envision himself supporting Hillary Clinton,...


"...I could live with Hillary as president...."





And Wall Street Loves her....





http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/07/02/charts-the-clintons-well-oiled-fundraising-machine/



The chart revealed much of what is already known about the Clintons. Wall Street and the financial sector love them, and they dominate with big donors, in a way, that President Obama never has. The great irony is that eighth biggest donor to the campaigns of Bill and Hillary Clinton has been News Corp. Before the phone hacking scandal caused the company to split their media and publishing holdings into two separate companies, News Corp was the parent company of Fox News.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/02/republicans-donating-bill-hillary-clinton-watching-fox-news.html

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
40. They love her alright and her Third Way ways. Is it any wonder, being the Wall Street corporatist that she is?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 08:06 PM
Dec 2014
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
41. They expressed without reserve....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 08:50 PM
Dec 2014

that Hillary would represent their best interests by the obvious disparity of their donations........Obama donations were nothing more than a hedge.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. You mean, like this morning? Last week? Easter time?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:25 PM
Dec 2014

Ever since she became a Senator and did things like protect banks from those nasty people who get in over their head in credit card debt?

OK, fine. I’ll take the challenge; there are many differences between these two politicians.

For example, in her book, “The Two Income Trap,” Warren slammed Clinton for casting a Senate vote in 2001 for a bankruptcy bill that ultimately passed in 2005. That legislation makes it more difficult for credit card customers to renegotiate their debts, even as it allows the wealthy to protect their second homes and yachts from creditors. According to a 2009 study by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the bankruptcy bill’s provisions changing debt payback provisions played a central role in the foreclosure crisis, as the new law forced homeowners to pay off credit card debts before paying their mortgage.

“As first lady, Mrs. Clinton had been persuaded that the bill was bad for families, and she was willing to fight for her beliefs,” Warren wrote. “As New York’s newest senator, however, it seems that Hillary Clinton could not afford such a principled position. … The bill was essentially the same, but Hillary Rodham Clinton was not.”

Additionally, Warren has been a critic of so-called free trade deals, which create regulatory protections for patents and copyrights, but remove such protections for workers, consumers and the environment. Clinton, by contrast, was a key backer of NAFTA and voted for various free trade pacts during her Senate tenure.

Clinton was also a prominent supporter of the 1996 welfare reform legislation that made it more difficult for poor families to receive government benefits. With a new study from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities showing that law coinciding with a rise in extreme childhood poverty, Clinton’s position may open her up to criticism from Warren, who has positioned herself as a champion of the poor.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/31/hillary_clinton_vs_elizabeth_warren_they_have_less_in_common_than_you_think_partner/
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. I can't read that unrepentant and eloquent passion as anything other than a marriage proposal...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:37 PM
Dec 2014

"Cheney also suggested that, if elected, Clinton might be easier for Republicans to work with than Obama..."

I can't read that unrepentant and eloquent passion as anything other than a marriage proposal by Cheney. Love, actually. Princess Bride kind of stuff in the those words of his.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
37. Another award? O Henry is popular!
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:43 PM
Dec 2014
Hank: Here, pull my finger Hillary.
Hill: Hank, you are such a devil. You know I don't mean that literally, but millions of people around the world do! ha ha HA HA! HA hA!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. I remember when Republicans loved Liz Warren for voting for them, donating to them and supporting
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:49 PM
Dec 2014

Reaganomics, the gutting of Unions and the pillaging of the middle class. Ronald Reagan was delighted to have such strong support and generous donations.
I remember when I voted for Bill Clinton and Hillary voted for Bill Clinton, and Liz Warren voted for George 'Poppy' Bush.
I assume you were a Perot voter....

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. Why not? Liz Warren and her precious Republicans assumed all sorts of bigoted shit about my
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:37 PM
Dec 2014

people. Back in the 80's people who supported the right wing were my enemies. They still are. I was thrilled that Bill Clinton was elected. Liz Warren was furious. She was a Republican.
Here's a fun fact, if we nominate Liz and they nominate Jeb, both Party's nominees will have being Reagan/Bush voters in common. No matter who loses, Poppy's candidate wins.
I'm not all that comfy with that. Some are.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
38. You dont know that Elizabeth Warren voted for Geo H.W.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:53 PM
Dec 2014

I really doubt that.And you must be really sold on Hillary as a nominee because a vote for Hillary is vote for a Republican.
And did you know Hillary was a registered Republican before Bill Clinton ran in the 92 primary?
Yes Hillary is a ticket for a Republican to occupy the White House in 2016 if she secures the nomination...
...With all the compliments being paid by the Republicans why doesn't she just run on the Republican ticket..
She has the Wall St bankers in her corner that's usually reserved for Republicans. As a Republican she would be a front runner and then real Democrats would not stay home on election day.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
13. By her friends (Rupert Murdoch) shall you know her. (2006)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:52 PM
Dec 2014
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rupert-murdoch-loves-hillary-clinton/

To call them a political odd couple would be a rash understatement. Conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch will host a fundraiser for liberal New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, the Financial Times reports.

The mating ritual of the unlikely allies has been under way for months. Clinton set political tongues to wagging last month by attending a Washington party celebrating the 10th anniversary of Fox News, the cable news channel owned by Murdoch.

The fundraiser will take place in July, the newspaper said. Clinton is the frontrunner for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, though she has not indicated whether or not she will run.

Clinton has worked hard to take the edge off her reputation as a card-carrying liberal. She has has collaborated with congressional conservatives on some peices of legislation, called for a "common ground" on abortion and cut a political figure some on the left see as decidedly un-liberal.

Clinton, who made her debut in the Senate Armed Services Committee four years ago, has never voted against any major Iraq military spending legislation. She has also taken two high-profile trips to Iraq – journeys that may have helped to strengthen the credentials of a senator with no military background or experience.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
14. I can't help but shake my head in amusement.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:52 PM
Dec 2014

More grasping at straws from the Left wing of the party that is desperate not to see Hillary run for president. This site has become a waste of time for anyone who doesn't think that Sanders and Warren are the next saviors of the party, particularly since Sanders isn't even a Democrat.

Yeah, the Republicans LOVE Hillary. They love her just as much as the Left loves her.





liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
26. So she is going to help change the fact that a few dozen people own more
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:05 PM
Dec 2014

than half of the country's wealth? I seriously doubt it.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
27. Neither would Sanders or Warren.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:11 PM
Dec 2014

How would they accomplish that, by waving a magic wand? Democrats don't even hold the majority in one chamber in Congress. It'll be hard enough to elect a Democrat in 2016 after 8 years of holding the WH, and people here want to nominate someone who may be the darling of the Left, but who wouldn't stand a chance in a general election? The mood of the country is not on our side.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
28. Sanders and Warren would fight for a living wage and fight for bank regulation.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:13 PM
Dec 2014

Hillary would not do either of those.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
33. All our saviors have magic wands, but when they don't use them we hate hate hate them....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

Witness Barack Obama. He wouldn't use the magic wand we were so sure he had.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
49. Yeah, that worked out well......
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 12:13 AM
Dec 2014

Presidents are not absolute rulers. They can only do so much without Congressional support, as Obama soon found out once he took office. He wanted to be transformational, but political realities impeded him from achieving that goal.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. They never loved her
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 05:55 PM
Dec 2014

The simply used her as a cudgel to attack a sitting Democratic President....Barack Obama.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
22. It will be Business-as-usual
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:01 PM
Dec 2014

if she wins. Don't look here,...move along,...there's nothing to see!

Jamie will throw her a diamond studded party for the privileged few.


Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. That must have been a looong time ago.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:02 PM
Dec 2014

I've only read vile about certain Democrats ever since I joined this place in 2007.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
24. Remember when Democrats supported the People? You know, real Democrats ....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:03 PM
Dec 2014

... FDR, populist Democrats, not the corporate shills that hold leadership positions in the Party today.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
30. Bill was governor of Arkansas at the time.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:18 PM
Dec 2014

Should he have spit on the vice president?

The absurd attempts to disparage people by using pics and comments that are out of context are far too common around here.



 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
39. There's a lot of room between spitting on and having a beer with ...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:59 PM
Dec 2014

... criminals and racists.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
47. and to willingly be 'adopted' by that criminal and racist...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:43 PM
Dec 2014

palsy walsy huggy pinch


Maybe Poppy gave Bill racist advice during the 2008 campaign, cuz he sure went there!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
53. I'm no Clinton fan but I agree with you.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:18 AM
Dec 2014

Bill Clinton sat down with a couple of right-wingers. Hillary Clinton was a Goldwater Girl. Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican. And let's not forget the 2008 campaign, when we found out that John Edwards paid too much for a haircut and that Barack Obama wrote something incriminating in a kindergarten essay.

Enough, already.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
31. I remember when the GOP accused her of murder & other nasty things. They will be back at it shortly.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:19 PM
Dec 2014

Good grief, people, consider the source why don't you?

The GOP only "liked" Hillary as a way of calling President Obama incompetent. The fact that she is able to get the job done, whether working with Senators like McCain, Graham et al. or world leaders like Putin, is a credit to her capabilities and not a recommendation that she trusts their every word.

Also, remember Benghazi? They hate her as much as they hate Obama.

The moment Hillary announces her candidacy is the moment every slander is pulled from under its slimy rock and polished up for widespread use -- again.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
32. They are so close to the prize...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

...getting the Supreme Court to outlaw abortion and starting the chip-away at gay rights campaign... they will attack her with the heat of a trillion suns.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
43. No, not really
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 08:56 PM
Dec 2014

They have always hated her. When it suits them they will say nice things about her. But they aren't doing it because they like her. They only do it to make someone else look bad. Rethugs want HRC to run. Then she is fair game to unleash years of bent up hate.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
44. In life one thing I've learned is
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:00 PM
Dec 2014

con artist will say or do anything they think will further their cause. No thought as to whether its true or not. So in saying that I say that no stock can be put in anything any one of these thugs has to say about anyone or anything.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
45. They don't love Hillary. They hated her then and they hate her now
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:13 PM
Dec 2014

they build her up to put Obama down. They don't fear her either. Anyone who believes anything in this article pointing out the republican "love' for her is an idiot who fell off the turnip truck yesterday. What was that old story about the briar patch?

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
46. Of course they don't love her...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:34 PM
Dec 2014

ReTHUGS and their backers want THEIR horse (whomever) in control of the Executive Branch, not the Democratic Party's pick, especially someone who will try to shake up the system. Promoting Hillary, is nothing more than 'Plan B' pushed by reTHUGS to cover their bets either way....she will protect the Wall Street corporatists and give us a new war to wage.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
48. If a republican wins the 1% and the MIC do better and the poor get knocked down further.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:42 PM
Dec 2014

If Hillary wins we get that too. Sounds like a lose lose situation.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
50. Rush helped Obama beat Hillary by telling his audience they should vote for the black guy because
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 03:15 AM
Dec 2014

he wouldn't stand a chance to win the election.l They were caught in their own petard.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
51. It is all bullshit. That is why they treated her so well during her health care plan presentation
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 03:23 AM
Dec 2014

under Bill Clinton, or how they attacked almost daily during the Clinton administration.

How does one know if a republican is lying? If their lips are moving

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