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So I see now that those cams on cops won't mean nothing. (Original Post) SummerSnow Dec 2014 OP
yup - n/t lapfog_1 Dec 2014 #1
Good point. nt cwydro Dec 2014 #2
+1 I've been saying this for awhile now 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #3
Yeah I argued that point in the past... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #4
If cops who kill black men with no cause don't get MineralMan Dec 2014 #5
Yeah, racism. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #8
Agreed. A few prosecutions would preclude the need... immoderate Dec 2014 #6
We still need those cam clips because they'll make a prima facie case to support the loss Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #7
Not really... kentuck Dec 2014 #9
It will mean something. It'll mean people can see for themselves how cops kill with impunity and lie uppityperson Dec 2014 #10
They would mean a lot. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #11
fuckin wow... fuckin wow... uponit7771 Dec 2014 #12
Actually, they would mean a lot. HappyMe Dec 2014 #13
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
3. +1 I've been saying this for awhile now
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:21 PM
Dec 2014

Without accountability cameras won't do jack shit except make the Taser Corp wealthier and the unintended consequences is people will be less inclined to talk to cops because of the camera in their face and cops are going to become much colder and robotic out of fear that their bosses could use any and every single thing they say from archived footage as leverage to kick them off the force if they don't go along with the program (usually the bosses are the most corrupt and vicious).

OTOH when a cop is doing something really bad they'll just not turn on the camera or make sure the battery doesnt get charged like Mary Hawk's killer did at Albuquerque PD a few months ago or smash the recording device like Officer Vince Mater did in Fullerton. Criminals will always beat whatever system in place.

Body cameras are not an end all solution when it comes to police brutality. If the Kelly Thomas murder didnt wake people up I don't know what will.

We can talk cameras after we talk about accountability.

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SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
4. Yeah I argued that point in the past...
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:22 PM
Dec 2014

and the fact that we even have to think about doing it tells us how fucked we are.


That said, it can't make it any worse.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
5. If cops who kill black men with no cause don't get
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:26 PM
Dec 2014

indicted, even when there is clear video, cameras aren't going to make much difference. Very sad and anger-producing. There is a much bigger problem in place. Much bigger.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
7. We still need those cam clips because they'll make a prima facie case to support the loss
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

of confidence in our police force, the court system and our government.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. It will mean something. It'll mean people can see for themselves how cops kill with impunity and lie
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:49 PM
Dec 2014

about the reasons they do so.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
13. Actually, they would mean a lot.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 05:16 PM
Dec 2014

The more cases of murder and brutality caught on camera, the more people become disgusted - then something might get done.

The cops and the prosecutors need to be held accountable.

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