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stevedeshazer

(21,653 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:40 PM Apr 2012

Some dipshit from the American Spectator blames President Obama for changes to Mustang by Ford.

<snip>
The Ford Motor Company is giving its Mustang a unique 50th birthday present: death.

Detroit will still market an automobile called the Mustang. It just won't bear much of a resemblance to the iconic roadster driven by the likes of Lt. Frank Bullitt and James Bond.

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The Environmental Protection Agency may prefer Obamamobile Chevy Volts to the high-performance, low-mileage sports cars. But the American public exhibits a clear preference for the latter. Zero-to-sixty in five seconds just feels realer than global warming.

The classic American sports car survived the Pontiac Firebird, OPEC's oil embargo, and Ford's '70s-era Mustang II Pinto-like redesign. The Mustang won't survive Obama.

The Environmental Protection Agency may prefer Obamamobile Chevy Volts to the high-performance, low-mileage sports cars. But the American public exhibits a clear preference for the latter. Zero-to-sixty in five seconds just feels realer than global warming.

The classic American sports car survived the Pontiac Firebird, OPEC's oil embargo, and Ford's '70s-era Mustang II Pinto-like redesign. The Mustang won't survive Obama.

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God forbid that the Mustang be made more fuel efficient. This dope thinks it is more important to go 0-60 in five seconds than get decent mileage as gas prices keep going up.

Not to mention that the modern Mustang is already a piece of crap.

I'm sick of these guys who wish that it was still 1970 and still listen to 'classic rock'.

He's the guy who tailgates me and gives me the finger and passes me in a no-passing zone.

Nobody likes that guy.

Oops! edited to add link: http://spectator.org/archives/2012/04/20/the-mustang-becomes-an-obamam

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Some dipshit from the American Spectator blames President Obama for changes to Mustang by Ford. (Original Post) stevedeshazer Apr 2012 OP
I preferred my 1992 4 cylinder Mustang... ingac70 Apr 2012 #1
Wait, listening to classic rock is a right-wing thing? 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #2
Okay, I listened to plenty of it back in the day. stevedeshazer Apr 2012 #5
No and neither is driving a Mustang. This is so much piffle. yellowcanine Apr 2012 #37
Hey DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #3
Saw Skynyrd twice. stevedeshazer Apr 2012 #7
Bieber bless you... Fumesucker Apr 2012 #18
how bizarre that you think classic Rock is right wing..... dionysus Apr 2012 #4
A partial list of the bands I saw back then stevedeshazer Apr 2012 #10
Hmmmm... GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #6
Dipshit for sure madokie Apr 2012 #8
If you want to go fast, there are plenty of other cars Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #9
Ever notice that cars marketed to lower middle to middle class folks are identified by a name often? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #20
one of the biggest 'non-points' ever made on this board ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2012 #25
I love you too.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #27
I never noticed that, can I play? hughee99 Apr 2012 #30
"Often" and "usually" have specific meanings, they are qualifiers.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #31
Okay then, hughee99 Apr 2012 #32
Ferrari is American? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #34
I was referring to the ones you named initially. hughee99 Apr 2012 #36
Didn't realize we were only talking about current models.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #38
Glass-Steagall had NOTHING to do with the 2015 Ford Mustang design. ( n/t ) Make7 Apr 2012 #11
It's been proven that Glass-Steagall never existed. Put down the pipe! freshwest Apr 2012 #14
Fuck that, he just made it look more Black, and cooler. DCKit Apr 2012 #12
You mean that serious car enthusiasts still buy Mustangs? Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #13
mustangs are very tuneable.. frylock Apr 2012 #17
What do you mean *some* dipshit at American Spectator? The entire staff is nothing but dipshits. freshwest Apr 2012 #15
This will go over like Politicalboi Apr 2012 #16
The original muscle cars HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #19
I probably had too much beer with my pizza to answer Silver Swan Apr 2012 #21
Dodging idiot drivers is much more easily accomplished in a small car than a large one.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #22
Has this guy not been noticing the horsepower war between the Mustang and Camaro in recent years? JVS Apr 2012 #23
Republicans need to be called out for putting down American-made products. gulliver Apr 2012 #24
I'm having a tough time telling who is the more ignorant one. n/t flvegan Apr 2012 #26
He is a dipshit MattBaggins Apr 2012 #28
Notice this idiot didn't mention who was in office NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #29
Whover created the new design it is incredibly ugly. former9thward Apr 2012 #33
These chumps don't care about facts - just want to bloviate and blame Obama for whatever they can Mopar151 Apr 2012 #35
The "Good Old Days" For Cars Is Now. Fastcars Apr 2012 #39
WTF kind of logic is that? Initech Apr 2012 #40
Hey pal Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #41
Ford has fucked up the Mustang more times than you can count, and it's still here jmowreader Apr 2012 #42

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. Hey
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:42 PM
Apr 2012

Not everyone whol likes Classic Rock is a right winge dipshit. Many of us still like our old rock, especially for the left wing lyrics that the idiots ignore.

Find a better anti war song than "warpigs" or a better anti gun song than "Saturday Night special" by of all people, Lynyrd Skynrd.

stevedeshazer

(21,653 posts)
10. A partial list of the bands I saw back then
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:53 PM
Apr 2012

Journey
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
Foghat
ZZ Top
Aerosmith
Styx
REO Speedwagon
Kiss

If it is still your primary music when you are tailgating me in your Mustang in 2012, may I suggest that you listen to a wider variety of music.

Just sayin'. No offense. I still crank up Golden earring in my Civic once in a while, going 5 mph over the speed limit and minding my own business.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
6. Hmmmm...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:44 PM
Apr 2012

Someone needs to point out to this idiot that the electric Tesla roadster can do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. Dipshit for sure
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:48 PM
Apr 2012

I'd love to have a new mustang but the 1000 miles a year I might drive just wouldn't justify it.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
9. If you want to go fast, there are plenty of other cars
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:51 PM
Apr 2012

Why does a car's name have to be synonymous with speed?

The car engineers and designers aren't in the business of making cars few will buy.

These So-called "Fast cars" have died every decade, along with the companies that produced them.

At least Obama saved THIS company from extinction.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. Ever notice that cars marketed to lower middle to middle class folks are identified by a name often?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:42 PM
Apr 2012

While those marketed to the upper class usually have a number/letter combination as a designation?

Ford Mustang

Mercedes Benz SLK500

Chevy Impala

Audi A8

Dodge Stratus

BMW 750i

And so on...

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
30. I never noticed that, can I play?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:02 PM
Apr 2012

Ferrari California

Scion XB

Lamborghini Aventador

Mazda 2.

Wait, I don't think I'm doing something right here.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
31. "Often" and "usually" have specific meanings, they are qualifiers..
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:20 PM
Apr 2012

Qualifiers that mean "not always"..

Lamborghini Diablo.

DeLorean

Fiberfab Valkyrie

Rolls Silver Cloud..

Ferrari Testarossa

....

Chevy Camaro.

Chevette

Chevelle

Corvette

Impala

Caprice

Bel Air

Biscayne

Cruze

Chevy II (half name half number)

Nova (doesn't go in Spanish)

Suburban

Volt

Tahoe

Traverse

Colorado

Silverado

Avalanche

Aveo

Sonic

HHR (just letters no numbers)







hughee99

(16,113 posts)
32. Okay then,
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:26 PM
Apr 2012

Did you notice that your 3 "named" cars are all from american manufacturers and your three "numbered" cars were from European manufacturers?

You'd have a valid argument if Ford was making the "Ford asskicker" for the lower range market and the "Ford 2XPNSv4U" for the high end market, but otherwise you're mixing apples and oranges.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
36. I was referring to the ones you named initially.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:03 PM
Apr 2012

Audi, BMW and Mercedes.

And if I understand correctly, the GT40 hasn't been produced in more than 40 years, and the GT hasn't been produced since 2008.

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
13. You mean that serious car enthusiasts still buy Mustangs?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:56 PM
Apr 2012

Teehee...

This article is more a swipe at the Obama administration than about Mustangs. I am sure he was one of those hoping that the whole car industry "dies", not just the mustangs.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. mustangs are very tuneable..
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

so yeah, enthusiasts still buy and build up mustangs. that being said, the article is a crock o shite.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
19. The original muscle cars
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:30 PM
Apr 2012

Were killed off more by insurance rates than they were pollution controls or gas prices. I suspect much the same now.

Silver Swan

(1,110 posts)
21. I probably had too much beer with my pizza to answer
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:56 PM
Apr 2012

But our Mustang is much more fuel efficient than our Explorer.

The only reason we bought the Explorer, is that I was frightened of all the idiots who threatened us because they thought we weren't driving the Mustang fast enough. The idiots in this area are pretty scary.

Why is everyone is such a hurry?

I will buy an itty-bitty fuel efficient car when the idiots also drive itty-bitty fuel efficient cars.

I don't even drive, but I am a frightened passenger, who doesn't want to be at the mercy of all the idiot drivers out there.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. Dodging idiot drivers is much more easily accomplished in a small car than a large one..
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:16 AM
Apr 2012

Smaller target for one thing and better handling overall in order to engage in evasive maneuvers.

The safest car is the one that does not collide with other vehicles, not the biggest/strongest.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
23. Has this guy not been noticing the horsepower war between the Mustang and Camaro in recent years?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:12 AM
Apr 2012

Since 2008 both the 6 and 8 cylinder versions of the mustang have gained about 100 hp, with the v-6 going from 210 to 305 and the v-8 going from 300 to 412.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
24. Republicans need to be called out for putting down American-made products.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:18 AM
Apr 2012

This bozo is attacking both the Volt and the Mustang. There is still a recession on and Americans are still looking for work. Why are Republicans putting down our products?

MattBaggins

(7,897 posts)
28. He is a dipshit
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:43 PM
Apr 2012

Americans do not prefer the gas guzzlers anymore.

If a majority of people really wanted muscle cars these days, they would be manufactured and politicians wouldn't make a peep.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
33. Whover created the new design it is incredibly ugly.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:30 PM
Apr 2012

It is now just another compact car. I have owned five Mustangs in my lifetime but I would never consider buying this one.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
35. These chumps don't care about facts - just want to bloviate and blame Obama for whatever they can
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:51 PM
Apr 2012

The new Mustang EcoBoost V-6 makes almost 300 hp (net - not the old, puffed-up gross ratings from the 60's), and gets 29 mpg.
Ford isn't dumping the Mustang anytime soon. Ford has been working at the "stratified charge" technology that underlies EcoBoost since the early 70's

A lot of people view cars of the 60's with great reverence, and attribute performance and refinement that most simply did not have.
I'm not one of them... I own a '72 F-350 with an old school, hot rod 302 - built similar to the Shelby Mustang small-blocks. Power is good (almost as much as the new V-6...) - but compared to the smooth-as-silk driveability of Ford's current EFI V-8's, it's rough as a cob.

Fastcars

(204 posts)
39. The "Good Old Days" For Cars Is Now.
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:39 PM
Apr 2012

New cars, including the Mustang are superior to the cars of old in every way. You can go to your local Ford dealer and buy a 400+ horsepower Mustang drive it off the lot and 2000 miles to a racetrack on the other side of the country, race it, and then drive it 2000 miles back home without ever doing anything but putting gas in it.

A 4,000 mile round trip in even the lowest horsepower Mustangs of the 60s and 70s would be an adventure best undertaken only by a very mechanically inclined driver.

Bombero1956

(3,539 posts)
41. Hey pal
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:58 PM
Apr 2012

I'm a liberal Democrat and I drive a 2006 Mustang GT. I'm hardly a speed demon. Any car will waste fuel if you have a heavy foot, even a Civic. The vast majority of us buy the Mustang because it is an iconic car that's fun to drive. Talk about painting with a broad brush.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
42. Ford has fucked up the Mustang more times than you can count, and it's still here
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:24 AM
Apr 2012

If the Mustang could survive the two years Ford was making them out of Pintos, and the 14 years Ford was making them out of Fairmonts, it can survive anything.

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