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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 08:42 PM Dec 2014

I'm Wondering What You Think... I'll Call This 'Elie Wiesel And The Godwin Trap'...

I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

Elie Wiesel


I decided to devote my life to telling the story because I felt that having survived I owe something to the dead. and anyone who does not remember betrays them again.

Elie Wiesel


No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them.

Elie Wiesel


Link with more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/elie_wiesel.html



If we are "never to forget"... how do we get around the Godwin Trap ???

No... we are not at the gas chamber stage... yet...

But we have the Oligarchy... Plutocracy... Corporatists... Fascists... Right-Wing Extremists...

What word would you have us use to not offend Godwin?

How do we see over the horizon when the moneyed class, and the security class, face no consequences for their actions?





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I'm Wondering What You Think... I'll Call This 'Elie Wiesel And The Godwin Trap'... (Original Post) WillyT Dec 2014 OP
the noblesse Kalidurga Dec 2014 #1
I read 'Night", so did my kids. I had respect. Then came his take on the people in the Gaza Ghetto: panader0 Dec 2014 #2
Yeah... I Know... WillyT Dec 2014 #3
Yep, somehow Elie's morality and humanity got sidetracked. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #4
Or... When They Felt The Entire World Abandoned Them... WillyT Dec 2014 #5

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. Yep, somehow Elie's morality and humanity got sidetracked.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 09:29 PM
Dec 2014

I guess like a lot of people when his side is doing the oppressing it's OK.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
5. Or... When They Felt The Entire World Abandoned Them...
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 09:49 PM
Dec 2014
SS St Louis: The ship of Jewish refugees nobody wanted
By Mike Lanchin - BBC World Service
12 May 2014 Last updated at 19:17 ET


Gerald Granston (right) on the deck of the St Louis

<snip>

On 13 May 1939, more than 900 Jews fled Germany aboard a luxury cruise liner, the SS St Louis. They hoped to reach Cuba and then travel to the US - but were turned away in Havana and forced to return to Europe, where more than 250 were killed by the Nazis.

"It was really something to be going on a luxury liner," says Gisela Feldman. "We didn't really know where we were heading, or how we would cope when we got there."

At the age of 90, Feldman still clearly remembers the raw and mixed emotions she felt as a 15-year-old girl boarding the St Louis at Hamburg docks with her mother and younger sister.

"I was always aware of how anxious my mother looked, embarking on such a long journey, on her own with two teenage daughters," she says.

In the years following the rise to power of Hitler's Nazi party, ordinary Jewish families like Feldman's had been left in no doubt about the increasing dangers they were facing.

Jewish properties had been confiscated, synagogues and businesses burned down. After Feldman's Polish father was arrested and deported to Poland her mother decided it was time to leave.

Feldman remembers her father pleading with her mother to wait for him to return but her mother was adamant and always replied: "I have to take the girls away to safety."

So...

<snip>

More: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131




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