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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 06:00 PM Dec 2014

cop - protesters were wealthy “little techie brats” using social media to outsmart cops

NYPD officers traveled to Ferguson, MO during the fallout of the grand jury decision for Michael Brown, the unarmed teen who was fatally shot by a police officer in August, to collect intelligence on “professional agitators” ahead of the Garner decision. Missouri protesters managed to outmaneuver police during protests by using disposable or burner phones and organizing via social media. One NYPD officer complained that the protesters were wealthy “little techie brats” who were using social media to outsmart cops.

“The NYPD encourages cooperation across units to spy on people for attempting to protest,” and any one who may be associated with protesters, Malkia Cyril, executive director of the Center for Media Justice, told ThinkProgress, mentioning the NYPD helicopters surveying thousands of protesters this week.

Police rely on social media and data collection to help them respond more efficiently to crime, but it can often step over the line. “In Chicago, [there was the] creation of the heat map predicting who would do crime based on who they are and where they live. In New York, their anti-terrorism work has pushed the boundaries of privacy,” Robinson said. “But it’s all in how they use the data. At the end of the day, police need to build trust…And monitoring protests doesn’t do this.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/06/3600158/nypd-social-media-eric-garner-protests/

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cop - protesters were wealthy “little techie brats” using social media to outsmart cops (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 OP
LOL! daredtowork Dec 2014 #1
"attempting to protest"? Hey, NYPD: FUCK YOU!!! NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #2
The funny thing is... cwydro Dec 2014 #3
How many fellow cops has she turned in for corruption? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #19
THIS /\ /\ /\ /\ TalkingDog Dec 2014 #20
Welcome to te Police States of America... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #4
Why are our tax dollars being wasted on these cretins? /nt Ash_F Dec 2014 #5
Belligerent cretins. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #7
When the cops are all low IQ types (mostly below 100 by design) it doesn't take "techie brats" Dragonfli Dec 2014 #6
Police work is dull notundecided Dec 2014 #8
That theory does not appear to be working in practice, obviously. Dragonfli Dec 2014 #9
Stupid no........just average intelligence. notundecided Dec 2014 #12
I am no genius, nor do I know any personally, but below 100 sounds pretty stupid to me Dragonfli Dec 2014 #13
An IQ of 70 is low-normal. 100 is average. 120 is above average; it's a few points shy of MENSA REP Dec 2014 #15
i believe you are incorrect PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #18
The only thing I have against the police.... Bigmack Dec 2014 #10
fucking pigs PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #11
oh MY, that sounds like *class-based resentment!* (GOP piles on the "Red Cop Problem") MisterP Dec 2014 #14
I was suddenly reminded of this quote from Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord Kennah Dec 2014 #16
Good for the "little techie brats." They need to be quick-witted in this world.... Hekate Dec 2014 #17
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. "attempting to protest"? Hey, NYPD: FUCK YOU!!!
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 06:38 PM
Dec 2014

I don't miss your sorry police state miserable gentrified stinky ass.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. The funny thing is...
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 06:45 PM
Dec 2014

You don't have to be that smart to outsmart cops.

I have a good friend who is a cop. Female, white, gay. She is a good cop. I know this.

Very good at her job. Can't imagine dealing with the things she has told me she has to deal with on a daily basis. She's pretty smart on a certain level.

But she's not the sharpest tool in the shed in regard to most of the knowledge those of us on DU take for granted...as something we know and understand.

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
19. How many fellow cops has she turned in for corruption?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

If the number is zero, she is either a liar or a bad cop like the rest.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
20. THIS /\ /\ /\ /\
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:20 PM
Dec 2014

If you know a somebody who has raped or robbed or murdered someone or otherwise committed a crime and you don't turn them in, that's called being an accessory.

If a cop doesn't turn other cops in, it's still called being an accessory.

Good cops are as common as Hen's Teeth.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. Welcome to te Police States of America...
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 07:31 PM
Dec 2014

...where attempting to protest is considered criminal activity, which the police must monitor.
What's next, thought police?

DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER!

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
6. When the cops are all low IQ types (mostly below 100 by design) it doesn't take "techie brats"
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:08 PM
Dec 2014

to outsmart them, just average citizens that are simply aware of social media.

I wish they would stop recruiting cops from the moron and steroid crowd. Why not hire some smart people not loaded with 'roids that make them into perpetually angry (and still stupid) thugs.

Why is it again they choose to hire the stupidest people they can find? What is the reason to filter out anybody intelligent again?

notundecided

(196 posts)
8. Police work is dull
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:42 PM
Dec 2014

High IQ types would be bored. You don't need high intelligence to be a good cop; just being a decent human being is enough.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
9. That theory does not appear to be working in practice, obviously.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:50 PM
Dec 2014

I have my suspicions that "just being a decent human being" is screened out via psych profiles just as intelligence is screened out via I.Q. tests.

I disagree that stupid people can be good cops, you appear to think so, but cops require good judgement more than most, especially since they are so well armed and empowered to do whatever they want if the fiction in the report says the right things (reports that are never questioned I might add). Stupidity does not make for exceptional judgement in life or death decisions no matter what you may believe.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
13. I am no genius, nor do I know any personally, but below 100 sounds pretty stupid to me
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:14 PM
Dec 2014

120 is pretty common and still well below my non-genius status, that or above seems minimal to expect good life or DEATH judgement.

I think we will simply have to agree to disagree, but I do feel the lack of intelligent life or death judgment commonly displayed in nearly every news cycle is both the proof and the blood pudding that supports my view.

REP

(21,691 posts)
15. An IQ of 70 is low-normal. 100 is average. 120 is above average; it's a few points shy of MENSA
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:54 AM
Dec 2014

An IQ of 123 and above is required for MENSA membership; are you suggesting that only those with IQs of 120 be recruited for police work? That's unrealistic; not only are those with those test scores not a large segment of the population from which to recruit, they're smart enough to turn down a crap job with crap pay.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
10. The only thing I have against the police....
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:54 PM
Dec 2014

... is that they somehow believe the people they are "protecting".... the oligarchs... are their friends.

If they understood who the real enemy is, they'd be leading the riots.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
11. fucking pigs
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 09:56 PM
Dec 2014

Spying on potential protesters? Where are your god damned warrants? Pigs.

America is a fascist totalitarian state. Its form of government needs to be overthrown.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

Kennah

(14,265 posts)
16. I was suddenly reminded of this quote from Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:12 AM
Dec 2014
"I divide my officers into four groups. There are clever, diligent, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and diligent -- their place is the General Staff. The next lot are stupid and lazy -- they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the intellectual clarity and the composure necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is stupid and diligent -- he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always cause only mischief."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Hammerstein-Equord#Classification_of_officers

He was addressing military officers, but I think it's topical.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
17. Good for the "little techie brats." They need to be quick-witted in this world....
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 03:39 AM
Dec 2014

Mass protests and civil disobedience ultimately need real planning to succeed over the long haul.

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