Confirmed! National Dems BACKED INDY CANDIDATE In Kansas Senate Race

[Segami]

To the surprise of no one, new campaign finance disclosures reveal that a top Democratic PAC gave money in support of independent candidate Greg Orman in this year's Kansas Senate race. The Kansas City Star reported Sunday that Senate Majority PAC, one of the biggest backers of Democratic Senate candidates in the midterms, funneled at least $1.5 million to two other groups that were supporting Orman. The PAC is run by former advisers to outgoing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Senate Majority PAC gave $1.3 million to the Committee to Elect an Independent Senate and $151,000 to Kansans Support Problem Solvers, both of which boosted Orman in his losing campaign against Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS), according to the Star.

"...The money exchange was secret until last week’s reports because they were made on or after Oct. 16, meaning they didn’t have to be disclosed until last week. Political interests often exploit that loophole to keep some transactions secret until after the election.

In this case, Reid’s advisers wanted to keep the donations from public view because they didn’t want to fuel the idea that Democrats were backing Orman. That was one of incumbent Republican Sen. Pat Roberts’ chief arguments against Orman in bright-red Kansas, which was that ideologically the independent was more closely aligned to the Democrats than to Republicans.

Orman had refused to say which party he would caucus with had he won...."

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article4332030.html#storylink=cpy

The transactions occurred on or after Oct. 16, which meant they were not disclosed under federal campaign finance rules until more than a month after Election Day. National Democrats had been publicly coy during the campaign when describing their intentions for the race, and Orman never publicly pledged to caucus with Democrats if he won. But GOP operatives seized the revelation as a sign of Democratic duplicity. "The fact that Greg Orman is a liberal Democrat isn’t shocking, anyone who heard him over the last month of the race reached the same conclusion," Brad Dayspring, a National Republican Senatorial Committee official, told TPM in an email. "It is noteworthy that Majority PAC and other Democrats in Washington tied to Harry Reid repeatedly lied to reporters about their involvement in this race."

Orman's ascendance as the de facto Democratic candidate followed the actual Democratic nominee Chad Taylor dropping out of the race in early September. Taylor's withdrawal came after a conversation with Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), and it is widely assumed that the national party wanted to boost Orman's chances because he was polling better against Roberts than Taylor was. Orman lost to Roberts, 42 percent to 53 percent, last month.



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[Autumn]

1. Precedence has been set. Thank you Harry

I proudly and happily support Bernie Sanders, the Independent Senator from Vermont for President in 2016.

[SidDithers]

8. The precedent of not splitting left-wing votes...

and instead, trying to consolidate them for the candidate that has the best chance of defeating the Republican.

Which is a pretty damn smart precedent.

Sid

[Autumn]

9. Here you go Sid

http://www.businessinsider.com/rick-weiland-dscc-south-dakota-senate-race-2014-10

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/219278-reid-daschle-feud-erupts

Bernie 2016! Have a nice happy day Sid.

[wyldwolf]

25. "the candidate that has the best chance of defeating the Republican."

And then you said Bernie 2016. LOL. Funny.

[Autumn]

27. Yeah Sid is funny. But please don't combine our posts.

That would NOT be funny.

[wyldwolf]

28. yeah, he has a great sense of humor. You, on the other hand should play Vegas

Bernie in 16. LOL.

[Autumn]

29. Be sure and tip your waitress.

Bernie 2016!!!!!! Because the country needs him

[Lugano]

31. I stand for Bernie. Do you?

Apparently not.

Secretary "Ms. TPP" and "I love the 1%'ers" Clinton is your candidate, based on that avatar of yours?

Good luck. She will not win in the primaries, or even come close when the candidates are set. One of them will be Bernie.

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. Unless he becomes NOT one before the Primary...you won't be supporting him on DU...

indeed...

[Autumn]

12. Hey Vnilla, how goes it?

indeed Bernie will most likely run as a Democrat, he has said so.

[VanillaRhapsody]

13. No he hasn't....you are pulling that out of the place the sun don't shine....

he said he MIGHT...but that would only be because he needs Democratic money....that Hillary Clinton is raising...If he thinks he has such a strong message...and DOESN'T need the money...he wouldn't need to become one..FACT.

[Autumn]

14. Had trouble reading that did ya?" Bernie will most likely run as a Democrat, he has said so."

That's what I posted that's what he has said, I'm pretty sure I didn't "pull that out of that place where the sun don't shine...." however you might look into a mirror. and then your posts might make sense. I just pay attention to what Bernie has said, I also pay attention to what Hillary has said which is why I support Bernie or Liz for President in 2016. Now I'm not gonna play with you today I have things to do.

[VanillaRhapsody]

16. have trouble reading do ya?

He said he MIGHT...not that he "most likely will"


and even if so...its ONLY FOR the Democratic money....so much for ABOUT campaign finance...it would make him a sellout.

and even if he did...he will have to wrestle that money away from Hillary in the Primary....

[Autumn]

18. I said he "most likely will" because he said he "most likely will"

If and when he becomes a Democrat so that he can participate in the debates to bring out issues that benefit people instead of corporations, things that she may not want to discuss he is entitled to that "Democratic money" as you call it , just as much as your democrat Hillary is.

[Segami]

22. Sanders 'inclined' to run in Democratic primary...

"...Sanders said again that he is inclined to run in the Democratic primary but has yet to make a final decision on campaign matters. Devine, in his interview, said running within the party “means you have an infrastructure and you don’t need to be on the outside, being a Ralph Nader-type candidate....”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/11/tad-devine-signs-on-to-work-with-bernie-sanders-on-potential-2016-run/

Tad Devine,....potential Sanders campaign manger and (one of the Democratic Party’s leading consultants and a former high-level campaign aide to Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis ) also thinks he is entitled to that "Democratic money" as well as the benefits and support of the party infrastructure.


Sounds like a plan!!

Go Bernie!

[Autumn]

23. Bernie runs, Hillary might just as well go home.

[Segami]

24. LOL!....now you did it..

Get ready for the coming swarm..

[wyldwolf]

26. Swarm? Yeah, we wouldn't want to have, like, a discussion on a discussion forum.

[Autumn]

30. Many of us do discuss things, important things. Others?

They have a hard time discussing anything except their point of view.

[okaawhatever]

2. This wasn't really a secret. Most speculated that Chad Taylor (Dem nominee) dropped out because he

knew he couldn't win and Orman might. The deal was to try and make sure Roberts didn't win the election.
Roberts is a psycho tea partier type.

[vi5]

3. Great!

I look forward to them supporting Bernie Sanders in 2016!

[brooklynite]

5. Just a guess, there'll be a sound Democratic candidate for President...

...you do see the difference between the Presidency and a Senate seat, right?

[Segami]

7. Some people might

beg to differ with your definition of 'sound Democratic candidate for President'

[brooklynite]

17. Some people might then be violating TOS

[Union Scribe]

20. Your long knife will have to wait for a distant night.

Skinner has already said they aren't doing anything about 2016 any time soon. Your purge fantasies, and your friend's up there as well, will have to wait I'm afraid.

[brooklynite]

21. I'm not purging anyone...

...not my site, not my rules.

But then, I'm happy to say I'll support the Democratic nominee -- even if it's Bernie.

[Autumn]

10. I agree I think it's just a guess there'll be a sound Democratic candidate for President...

Bernie has said he will most likely run as a Democrat.

[hfojvt]

15. the trouble is, of course

that they supported a right-winger.

Myself, I was so disgusted by Orman, that I supported Roberts. Hated to do it, but I still think Orman sets a bad precedent.

What is gonna happen now in 2016? Kansas Democrats didn't have a candidate for Congress in KC in 2012. Our candidate in 2014 got shellacked.

Well, hey, maybe instead of buying himself a Senate seat, now Orman will try to buy a seat in Congress, by running as an "independent" in the 3rd district and promoting his rightwing ideas. Democrats will then have to drop out, or risk ensuring another term of Yoder.

But then the same thing can happen in the 4th district and the 2nd district.

Eventually there IS no Democratic Party in Kansas.

[wavesofeuphoria]

4. Does this make Reid a left-leaning independent?

[bemildred]

6. It's all about control, their control of our party. nt

[hughee99]

19. Why are people blaming or cheering Harry Reid for this? n/t