MSNBC: "Where is Hillary Clinton on Torture?"

[NYC_SKP]

(Hint: She's OK with torture, except when she isn't)

Where is Hillary Clinton on torture?

12/09/14 04:32 PM By Alex Seitz-Wald

Now a private citizen herself, Clinton has not spoken often on the subject since stepping down as secretary of state early last year. But during a conversation at the Council on Foreign Relations sponsored by HBO in June, Clinton called for the release of the Senate report, but said she did not support prosecuting CIA interrogators.

“I am hopeful it will get released,” Clinton said of the report, which was hung up in negotiations between the administration and Senate. “I was not one of those who thought it was necessarily wise to ignore everything that had happened. I thought we needed more transparency … I think the American people deserve to see it.”

But Clinton continued that she “didn’t want people to be criminally prosecuted, people who were doing what they were told to do, that there were legal opinions supporting what they were told to do.”

In new her memoir about her time helming State, “Hard Choices,” Clinton adds: “There was no denying that our country’s approach to human rights had gotten somewhat out of balance” after the Bush administration. She also praised Obama’s order “prohibiting the use of torture or official cruelty,” using the term the Bush administration refused to use for the harsh interrogation tactics.

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In an editorial board meeting, she added that there “are very rare” circumstances when an exception to the no torturing rule would be needed, and “if they occur, there has to be some lawful authority for pursuing it.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/where-hillary-clinton-torture

In her own words and voice: https://ia601404.us.archive.org/10/items/HillaryOnTickingBombTorture/tickingbomb_01.mp3

[tularetom]

1. Haysoos Christo, can she just once take a fucking stand on something?

Do you ever get the feeling every word that comes out of her mouth is focus grouped to death?

Well I guess she doesn't want to say something that might look bad for "w" and the rest of her in laws the bush klan.

[Scuba]

2. Holy shit! She's OK with it if it's "very rare"??!! Fuck that!

[NYC_SKP]

6. Even when she's against it, she's also against ever bringing charges to anyone guilty of it.

So you can just imagine what it would be like if she's president.

If her pre-primary position is that she used to be OK with it but isn't now but doesn't want to prosecute anyone, then post primary or GE, if she's in the white house, it'll SSDD as Bush.

[Scuba]

7. I don't want to imagine that scenario, thanks.

[okaawhatever]

11. That is not what she said. She said she didn't think the interrogators should be prosecuted

because they were given legal opinions by the justice department that what they were doing didn't legally constitute torture. Granted, the were hand picked Cheney wannabes, but regardless. The individuals doing it thought they were following the law. She didn't say to let the people in power get away with it. That is an entirely different animal.

[VanillaRhapsody]

3. You folks are SOOOO predictable....and WRONG as usual..

Torture cannot be American policy, period

Q: Let’s say we were to capture the #3 man in Al Qaida, and we know there’s a bomb about to go off, and we have 3 days, and we know this guy knows where it is. Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?

A: As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period. There is very little evidence that it works. Now, there are a lot of other things that we need to be doing that I wish we were: better intelligence; working to have more allies. But these hypotheticals are very dangerous because they open a great big hole in what should be an attitude that our country and our president takes toward the appropriate treatment of everyone. And I think it’s dangerous to go down this path.

Q: The guest who laid out this scenario for me with that proposed solution was William Jefferson Clinton last year. So he disagrees with you.

A: Well, he’s not standing here right now.

Q: So there is a disagreement?
A: Well, I’ll talk to him later.

Source: 2007 Democratic primary debate at Dartmouth College , Sep 6, 2007

[Scuba]

8. No, there should be no fucking exceptions!!!!!!!!!! We shouldn't be torturing people. Period!!!

[VanillaRhapsody]

9. AND she said what?

Did you read it?

Let's make it a little easier for you...

"As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period. There is very little evidence that it works"

[Scuba]

12. I listened. You can too.

https://ia601404.us.archive.org/10/items/HillaryOnTickingBombTorture/tickingbomb_01.mp3

She said it's OK if it's "very rare".

[VanillaRhapsody]

13. She said in 2006....that is is NOT our policy and that there is little evidence...

what part of that don't you understand?

[Scuba]

17. The part where she said "rare cases".

[Autumn]

4. Yeah but I was assured she had evolved!

[VanillaRhapsody]

10. Evolved from what?

"As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period. There is very little evidence that it works" ~~ Hillary Clinton in 2006

[Autumn]

16. You didn't get the memo I guess.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. Buffet for Hillary,GE/Comcast Agianst.

Duh!! no surprise. Joe the Interne Slayer runs the Political end of that Network.

[spanone]

14. 'Now a private citizen'. let's ask her when she announces.

[LawDeeDah]

15. Extraordinary Rendition, brought to you by Bill Clinton.

We shouldn't be surprised that Hillary supports torture. Even if it's 'rare', it's called support. It's like you can't be a little bit pregnant.

She supports torture and she probably did during Bill's admin.

All she had to say was torture is wrong and against the law, I do not support that. Torturing people does not get you more information, it just makes you a torturer. Torturing people invites others to torture Americans. It is wrong on all counts and I do not and will never support torture.

but I suppose that would be too big of a commitment and might offend people supporting torture with campaign funds.