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I am sick at what is occurring
I see patients every day on SS disabilty who have no reason to be on it
Girl with a deviated septum
Man w back pain who works as a firewood cutter
Girl with a seizure disorder- Never been on meds or had a seizure
Young man born premature-no health problems
All on SS disability
And that is just in the last two days
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PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)You aren't privy to their full medical records, are you? Who the hell are you to say such a thing?
Next are you going to tell us about Cadillac driving welfare queens?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Are you suggesting SSID be abolished because a few people abuse the system? Reformed? Have you ever been through the application process with a loved one?
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)It took two years to qualify my son, in the mean time the medical bills mounted and we had to sell our home to continue care.
btw did I mention we had "cadillac" health insurance.
He is now an adult (33) and he is not getting rich on $865.00 a month. I still cover the cost of a lot of his medical.
Survivoreesta
(221 posts)If Opie wants to see major abuse of the system, he should check out Our Wonderful Bankers!
Roy Rolling
(7,632 posts)You aren't bitter that "pigheaded" was rejected as a qualifying condition, are you?
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Are you suggesting that these people are receiving disability dishonestly? What do you mean by "sick at what is occurring"? Do you mean where you work or are you trying to use a personal anecdote to suggest that most people on SS disability are cheats?
mdmc
(29,377 posts)but looks can be deceiving..
alfredo
(60,301 posts)
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Do they drive Cadillacs to your "clinic"? Or are they in chauffeured Rolls Royces?
obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)On their way to the Cadillac dealership.
WhollyHeretic
(4,074 posts)
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)After contributing to their SS insurance for thirty years.
It is not very easy to receive your benefits even with medical proof. I believe you are merely guessing at the state of the health of those you speak of or you are repeating stuff you "heard" on the Internets and mistakenly took propaganda for testimony.
Do you have any proof?
Also what are your thoughts on SS disability used as intended?
The Genealogist
(4,739 posts)I am not sure where you are seeing this. Are you looking at people's files or claims? Are you just seeing people with these issues going into an office? Getting SS disability is exceedingly difficult. They don't just hand it out to everyone who asks for it. Too, people get it for a variety of reasons that are not necessarily visible to the eye. So where are you getting your examples?
ejpoeta
(8,933 posts)I would qualify for disability according to my doctor because I have a mental illness. I have never tried to get it because I always felt I could work, but the fact that I can barely get myself out of the house says plenty. Could I work? I don't know.
The thing is, that there are a lot of people who might 'look' like they are just fine. But you have no way of knowing what is going on. My husband has back pain and yet cuts wood and lifts heavy things because he has to.
How about my niece.... She is legally blind and learning disabled. She has had hip surgery and will have another soon. She is 7 years old. My sister has only tried to get her medicaid as the health bills are killing them. But they apparently make too much to qualify. I know that is off topic, but I couldn't help myself.
I had a friend who worked picking cherries. He had so many problems and was denied disability three times. He had to stand on his feet and work all day when he was in pain. Yet he was denied. And for the record, to look at him you probably would have said the same thing.... he did finally get his disability btw.... to you he would not look disabled, but he is.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)are made by doctors. I know people who wish they didn't need it but their doctors contradict.
True reform can never happen as long as about 33% of the public, with support of corrupt politicians, spout off misinformation matching your post.
Unless SOME people GET REAL and stop w/ the mind games, no reform will be forthcoming.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)
jwirr
(39,215 posts)are thoroughly investigated and seen by more than one specialist.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)did they tell you their medical history?
Bet they had cell phones and big screen teevees too. 
mysuzuki2
(3,580 posts)I have heard many people say similar things. First of all, I don't think anyone would ever say there is no one on SS disability (about 12 million) who should not be getting it. There are always a few who manage to put one over on us. That being said, it is not easy to get on SS, or to stay on it. Frivolous claims get weeded out pretty fast. The number of fraudulent claims are minimal. A couple of observations though. Many times people do not understand their own problems well. Lots of would apply citing "bad back" or "headaches." Then you see the medical records and you see that yes, their back hurts but the real problem is schizophrenia or hallucinations. I had one young woman apply because she had calluses on her fingers. It turned out that she heard Jesus talking to her on her car radio.. Also, people will somtimes not tell you their real diagnosis for fear of embarassment. It is, in this case as well as in life in general, not to judge or generalize about people until you are sure you have enough information.
DonCoquixote
(13,961 posts)You cannot make diagnoses, PERIOD.
Only America is willing to make sure their government serves them poorly for fear that it might help someone they feel undeserving.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)And then there's the guy with the hangnail, right.
Lazy bums! 
Riley18
(1,127 posts)have access to their medical records. Did you also see that welfare lady with the cadillac??
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)
PA Democrat
(13,428 posts)because we have been the victims of a HIT AND RUN.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)even when their was absolutely no question that their conditions made them unemployable
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)
thucythucy
(9,103 posts)First of all, are you talking about SSI (Supplemental Security Income) or SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance)? These are two entirely different programs, and if you don't understand the difference then you can't possibly know anything about your "patients."
To get on SSDI one has to have been in the workforce and paid into the system for a certain number of quarters. So any "girl" with a "deviated septum" or "girl" with epilepsy couldn't possibly qualify, unless by "girl" you mean woman, in which case you're being sexist.
A girl "with a seizure disorder" whose never had a seizure and is not on meds would never qualify for SSI, period.
"Prematurity" without any other condition would never qualify as a disability under SSI or SSDI, period.
To get on SSI or SSDI you need to get a doctor to sign a sworn statement testifying that the condition is indeed disabling. You have to provide medical records and documentation on the disability. Then you have to go through an SSA approval process. Then you need to be periodically re-certified as continuing to have a disability.
There may be a few instances of abuse, but for every one of those there are hundreds of people who should be on the rolls but get stymied by the bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through to qualify. Among them: if you don't have health insurance, how do you get to see a doctor willing to evaluate you, so you can qualify and thus get health insurance? The system historically has been riddled with such Catch 22s--which always work to keep deserving people out of the system, as opposed to non-disabled people in.
Peddle your BS somewhere else.
Lunacee2012
(172 posts)Flatulo
(5,005 posts)My son works for a law firm that handles SSDI claims. People call in with absolutely no medical history, compaining of being 'forgetful' or 'getting easily confused'. Without medical diagnosis and documentation to back it up, the firm will not touch such cases, as they will surely lose.
Almost all claimants use an attorney these days, and the rule (at least here in Massachusetts) is that the firm only gets paid if the case is approved. So, logically, they will not touch cases that have little or no chance of approval.
It may have been different back in the day, but today it is very difficult to get approved for SSDI.
Lunacee2012
(172 posts)blind (thank God for Crtl +.....++++), I have nerve damage and a completely unrelated heart issue. On top of that I got cancer 2 years ago, but it's gone now.
Unless you where around me 24/7 you might not ever notice anything was wrong with me. I guess what I'm trying to say is just because you can't see a disease or injury, doesn't mean it's not there.
thucythucy
(9,103 posts)Diabetes, type I or II, is such a burden to bear. And to add cancer and heart problems on top of that... well, my heart goes out to you.
Best wishes and happy holidays to you and yours.
Lunacee2012
(172 posts)I use to post under a similar name and made a thread about my health issues, maybe I should post an update and let others use that to argue for universal health care. It would make one hell of a convincing point.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)that failed miserably? I'd love to hear what 'pigheaded' was intending by their post.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)Oh yeah. That Right Wing meme is worn out.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)
Ian David
(69,059 posts)
eShirl
(20,259 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)and FYI... being born prematurely can mean more often than not, a lifetime of health issues.
How do you know so much about these people and their health?
As a disabled person, I can tell you I spent a whole lot of time, money trying to hide my disability. Especially from employers who discriminate against the disabled.
You're horns are showing!
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)It took me 8 months to qualify for SSDI...for seizures,yes...that removed my ability to work and drive.I had brain surgery,a dvt and a pulmonary embolus.I have been getting blood and iron IV since them.I am one of the healthier SSDI folks I know....and,yes,I am also a long-time registered nurse.Let's talk about disabilities on a professional level.Thanks for your patient empathy.It's wonderful to know you are in the caring field.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)How does one encounter these people ....? I have difficulty believing this ...unless someone is a disability fraud investigator
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)Due to opinions such as yours, there is a tremendous STIGMA connected to anyone on SSDI.
Those who express such stigmatizing opinions are ghouls. They eat human flesh. Pass the mustard.
Don't worry. They will soon learn not to tell you the truth about their life.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)Is that they spew this crap all the time, but aim it at strangers whom they no nothing about let alone their circumstances. Yet inevitably these conservatives have family members who are exactly what they are griping about, but don't see them as a problem.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)On edit ... enjoy your stay.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)even those who actually need it, like war veterans eg, are turned down automatically it seems and have to keep applying, sometimes for years, before they finally get it.
Where is this place where people who are not disabled are getting all this money so easily? I know a war vet who would like to know.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,812 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)crap is a disability, you probably qualify.
thucythucy
(9,103 posts)this OP, but seeing all my fellow DUers smack some sense into Herr Schweinkopf has put a smile on my face.
Happy holidays and best wishes to you all!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)
aquart
(69,014 posts)A-Schwarzenegger
(15,812 posts)
GobBluth
(109 posts)I deal with it constantly. I do not get any type of government aid, as I have been VERY FORTUNATE to marry comfortably and have connections with people who find me jobs when needed.
I know it is hard not to judge things you may deem "not handicapped enough", but you most likely will be wrong. Dealing with misconceptions is, quite honestly, the hardest part of losing my hearing. Maybe you think they can work, most likely than can, the problem is finding people willing to hire them based on the EMPLOYERS ridiculous assumptions.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Gob Bluth!?! Welcome to DU, Gob! 
GobBluth
(109 posts)
grantcart
(53,061 posts)old who chews tobacco and has gas problems to join me and my roommate Tiffany for a
pillow fight tonight.
Afterwards we can roast marshmellows in the fire place and make smores.
When the clock strikes 10 we can play 'truth or dare".
Ain't the internet grand?
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)
cstanleytech
(28,471 posts)(if thats where this happened) since it seems to be causing you distress.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's customary to keep an eye on a topic you start, and join in with those who reply to your OP, engaging in a little back-n-forth.
The thread starter is nowhere to be found!
Isn't that different?
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She is intellectually disabled and employed full time at a low wage job.
Do you think the cost of living is higher or lower for her?
Because she works, she doesn't get much from SSI, but her position is not the most secure one on the planet either.
There are a lot of things I'm sick of seeing, but SSI doesn't even make the list.
Vinca
(53,994 posts)(We need that unrec. feature back.)
zanana1
(6,488 posts)I have been since the age of 39. I didn't want it; I wanted to go on working. I liked my job and the people I worked with. But when you have a heart attack at 38 and have six clogged arteries that require open heart surgery, you recover and try to go back to work. When, a year later, you're diagnosed with Muscular Dystrophy, it's impossible to hide your condition any longer. Believe me, alot of people try to hide their medical conditions. When I go out, I wear my braces and a cane, but I try to walk straight and tall. I exaggerate my normal gait so I won't look feeble. It wears me out. As for my heart, I do everything my doctor tells me to do, but after three hours of normal activity, I can't do any more. Some people just think I'm a "homebody", and I'd rather that they think that than know the truth. It's just pride, I know. But disabled people have pride, too.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)
motely36
(6,299 posts)
Progressive dog
(7,603 posts)Please go be sick in private. Hey maybe they'll let you have it too.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)I'll grant you the OP was trolling, and does not have the full information to declare those people fit, but the responses go way too far in the other direction.
If we want to preserve entitlements, we need to assure they are not abused.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)You said he was a troll, basically full of shit, so, how can you then agree with him? If you want preserve entitlements, you also don't load them down in red tape out of the extreme fear that everybody is stealing from them. Our troll wants to spread that fear. He deserves "way too far in the other direction," and after you smack-down the delusion, then you can get a separate thread on how common abuse really is.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I guess in DU3 you can self rec.
