UK Girl Converts to Islam for Man - Still Attacked with Acid.

[Rhinodawg]

This is the 80-year-old man who hired two thugs to throw acid in the face of his ex-girlfriend when he became convinced that the 20-year-old was seeing another man after their relationship ended.

Vikki Horsman was left horribly burned and disfigured after she was doused with the sulphuric acid as she went to answer the door at her friend's house in Tividale, West Midlands.

Her ex-lover, Mohammed Rafiq, was today found guilty of arranging the attack in revenge for Miss Horsman, who had converted to Islam during their relationship, breaking up with him.

Pakistan-born Rafiq persuaded Steven Holmes, 25, and Shannon Heaps, 22, to carry out the attack and initially pretended he was also a victim after he too was splashed by the acid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871497/Pictured-Muslim-pensioner-80-arranged-acid-thrown-20-year-old-Islamic-convert-ex-girlfriend-s-face-guilty-revenge-attack-split.html

[Rhinodawg]

1. what acid attacks look like..People should know.

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[Fred Sanders]

2. Your self made title is misleading, the attack has to do with jealousy of a crazy dirty old man, it

has nothing to do with Islam....but you already knew that.

[Rhinodawg]

3. Yeah....whatever.

http://www.acidviolence.org/

https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/as-the-muslim-population-increases-in-the-uk-acid-attacks-on-women-soar/

[Fred Sanders]

4. Yeah, I am right, you know it and you should just man up and delete the thread. Maybe be move it

to a religion thread, obviously where it may possibly belong.

[Rhinodawg]

5. Right.

Who you going to believe...me or your own eyes.


Number of UK attacks involving acid and other corrosive substances soars

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10238174/Number-of-UK-attacks-involving-acid-and-other-corrosive-substances-soars.html



I give you proof....you give me taqiyya.

[Rhinodawg]

6. Some other idignities women face

Here are a few of the indignities they face:

1. Stoning for apostasy.
2. Stoning for adultery.
3. Stoning for "witch-craft".
4. Hanging for being homosexual.
5. Being forced to marry your rapist.
6. Having to choose between marrying your rapist or being stoned for adultery.
7. Not being allowed to drive.
8. Not being allowed to work.
9. Not being allowed to leave the house without an escort.
10. Having acid thrown in your face for turning a man down.
11. Having acid thrown in your face for not having it shrouded.
12. Not having the choice to not have your entire body shrouded.
13. Female Genital Mutilation
14. Being trafficked into slavery.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025651386#post17


"I don't think anyone is justifying ridicule or cruelty, only pointing out the fact that if one is concerned about the general well being of women, many of the beliefs and practices of Islam are harmful/deadly to women."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025651386#post29

I give you links, FRED.

[Rhinodawg]

8. Fred....just one more.

"What disturbs me most is the Islamic war again women, which makes the Christian war on women look like a harmless play fight, yet many progressives look the other way or excuse these things are isolated cultural phenoma. Are we not feminists?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025635585#post135


Lets not look away, Fred.

[99Forever]

7. Yay for selective outrage aimed to produce bigotry!

Trash thread.

Bu bye.

[Rhinodawg]

9. .

http://www.acidviolence.org/

[NuclearDem]

10. Because as we know, only Muslims exact revenge on people who cheat on them

[bettyellen]

11. oh no, there you go putting it into context! spoiling the Islamphobic fun!

[Rhinodawg]

12. Right.

Ignore ALL the links I posted .

Look away...its ok.

[bettyellen]

20. shit like this happens all over our nation every day. it sucks that restraining orders are useless

and abusers are so hard to lock up.
But...still trying to figure out why you singled out THIS particular Islamaphobic story.

[Rhinodawg]

24. Bettyellen...

With all the articles and links above, at this point , I'm sorry.

I am unable to help you understand what brutality defenseless women go thru.

[Violet_Crumble]

27. So now yr claiming yr interest is brutality against women?

In that case, why is it that nearly every post from you here at DU is about Muslims and you don't have anything to say about violence against women if it's carried out by anyone but a Muslim?

[linuxman]

13. I see the defenders/apologists are out today.

The acid hurling community thanks you all.

"Acid attack? Hooey! Look over there! A Christian said something mean!"

Predictable as the weather.

[Rhinodawg]

14. The truth is sometimes upsetting to certain people.

Yes, the acid throwing community is pleased today.

[NuclearDem]

15. The OP's title was misleading.

Pointing out the actual reason for the attack--the woman seeing another man--is not being an apologist for fundamentalist Islam.

[Fred Sanders]

16. Although ignoring that truth does give them an opening to proudly out themselves as religious bigots.

[Rhinodawg]

19. Oh please...

I posted 3 links from other posters and you didn't bat an eyelash.

I suspect if it was Christian fundamentalists , your responses would be different.

Deal with reality.

I posted multiple links and articles re acid attacks and women and you rather throw slurs than deal with the truth.

[Violet_Crumble]

21. So tell us what the truth is...

I can't help but notice that you focus on Muslims to the exclusion of all else in yr posts at DU, yet the website you link to in this thread to support yr fascination with Muslims says something different...

Acid attacks are a worldwide phenomenon that are not restricted to a particular race, religion or geographical location.
http://www.acidviolence.org/index.php/acid-violence/where-we-work

[Mosby]

23. did you notice fred sanders slur?

The expression "man up" is sexist.

Funny how all the concern folks let that one slip by.


Eta - see post number 4.

[Violet_Crumble]

25. Don't change the subject. I asked yr buddy a question that I'd like him to answer...

If you have a problem with a post, alert on it.

btw, if you'd been reading you'd have seen that the website linked to in post 4 is the one that says: 'Acid attacks are a worldwide phenomenon that are not restricted to a particular race, religion or geographical location. '

[Mosby]

29. I did alert, thanks

Acid attacks occur in highly misogynistic countries like Iran, India, KSA, Afganistan, Pakistan Colombia etc.

The reality is that most muslim countries are highly misogynistic, women are considered nothing but property. Further, no one knows how many attacks actually happen in arab and muslim countries because the crimes are not always reported.

[Violet_Crumble]

30. So can you explain what this *truth* is that 'Rhinodawg' is claiming we're all not seeing?

See, I suspect that *truth* has zero to do with concern with brutality against women and everything to do with focusing on Muslims to the exclusion of all else.

[Mosby]

22. you used the phrase "man up" - only sexists say that

[alphafemale]

17. The woman deserved to be attacked? There was a valid reason?

And in what culture are acid attacks prevalent?

Deform them. So that no one else will ever want them.

[NuclearDem]

18. OFFS, that's not what I said and you know it.

The motive for the attack was the woman leaving him. Replace acid with knife, gun, vehicle, bat, hammer, or whatever, and this could have been from anywhere in the world from anyone.

That the guy is Muslim is completely and utterly fucking irrelevant.

[jtuck004]

26. While Christian cops here are gunning down people in the street because of their skin color.

Isis is chopping heads off, much like Columbus did in killing the people here (though Columbus was far more bloodthirsty than today's Muslims, it appears) so we could inhabit this country.


Heck of a world.

[LiberalElite]

28. Here's the story of Bert Pugach, a lawyer in NYC who became famous

for hiring someone to throw lye in his girlfriend's face:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Pugach