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"Git 'er done."
Posted: 12/14/2014 11:05 am EST Updated: 2 hours ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/karl-rove-torture_n_6322774.html
Karl Rove defended the CIA and former President George W. Bush on Sunday in the wake of the devastating Senate report on torture.
Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Rove claimed the brutal forced rectal feedings -- which the report said were not medically necessary -- were used out of medical necessity.
The Senate report suggests that the CIA went to some pains to keep the program insulated from Bush -- an opinion shared by former agency General Counsel John Rizzo in his recent book. When the president was finally briefed on everything that happened under the program, the report said, he "expressed discomfort" at the image of a detainee chained to ceiling, clothed in a diaper, defecating on himself.
On Sunday, Rove said Bush was fully briefed on all of the CIA's tactics early on in the program in 2002, citing the former president's recent book.
"He was briefed and intimately involved in the decision," said Rove.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Nice choice of picture, with Laura and W demonstrating the technique.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And looked drunk as hell in the process.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)He had those weird scabs all over his arms, too.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The look on his daughter's face in the OP pic is priceless. "Oh gawd, he's shitfaced again. This dope can't be my real father, can he??"
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I wish there was video.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)in Laura's buttons, George's shirt (short sleeves v. long), etc.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)This was a guy who tortured frogs when he was a kid, as I've read. Threw them up in the air with firecrackers in their mouths to watch 'em blow up. And cackled like a hen at the whole hilariousness of it all. Many studies show that kids who mistreat animals or pets or other smaller life forms are likely to grow up to be demonstrably sadistic - abusers and batterers - with a very basic disrespect for life and for others. In his case, he got to sit at the top of the ziggurat and order it done to others. WITH HIS PROUD AND EAGER APPROVAL. Stood it on a Bible and dressed it up in red-white-and-blue while he was at it, to give it some goooooo-oooood ol' "all-American" "Christian" cover, too.
George II
(67,782 posts)NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)rove, cheney, bush , rummy , condi et al and see if it is torture.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)I get the feeling Rove is used to "rectal inserts" Wasn't there talk of him cruising the gay bars in DC, especially the biker, rough sex ones? The male prostitute Jeff Gannon could shed light on the whole WH gang, since he visited so many, many times. I wonder if Cheney and Rove got copies of the tortute techniques for their private collections? Scooter Libby should find his spine, come forward with what he knows. After all, he was thrown under the bus by the vile group during the Valerie Plame ordeal.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Olde Karl should be first in line for the rectal "feedings" since he's an asshole.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Why is there not a prosecutor who will step up and charge them with war crimes?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Can people be tried in absentia there? U.S. will never deport them, but , maybe we could get a conviction anyway.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It is a punishment of sorts and their histories would have that smear on their characters.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)A Spanish Court were in the process of charging six of Bush's henchmen with War Crimes a few years ago. The judge was the same judge who went after Pinnochet.
People were hopeful that justice might finally be happening.
The court had jurisdiction so it looked good.
And then time went by and nothing happened.
It was disappointing.
We began to hear smears aimed at the judge.
Other than that, nothing.
And then Wikileaks released those cables.
And we found out why that case seemed to have gone away.
The Obama administration had placed pressure on the Spanish Court to stop the prosecutions.
Among the six were Gonzales and Yoo I believe, I can't remember all the others.
So, for now, that case is stalled. The US Government not only won't charge their own War Criminals, they go after any other country that tries to do it.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Here KKKarl, would you like a bit more rope?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025951749
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I rec'd your post while I was at it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)/dēˈsensəˌtīz/
verb
make (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...one of Andy Card's ongoing responsibilities was to oversee the making of a "daily news briefing" DVD for Junior...primarily culled from Fox, of course...so I have no doubt that the "highlights" made it on to disc for his ongoing enjoyment.
I can see him sitting there cackling "Wanted...dead or alive. Heh heh heh. Y'all can run, but fool me twice, can't get fooled again. Heh heh heh."
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, is that "patriot"?
SixString
(1,057 posts)...just take a look at that dumb sumbitch in that pic.
That's a two term president.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Probably couldn't stand each other.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)I made a comment last week about the enablers all pointing fingers away from themselves. C'mon Alberto and Condi, you're next.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I read it on here yesterday.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)He probably still has the DVD's!
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)bulloney
(4,113 posts)That thing they've been passing off as Rove's face looks like an ass.
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)That's exactly the one I was looking for...Dubya completely trashed, Laura looking like she graduated from Xanax to Thorazine, Barbara wondering just how minor of a crime she has to commit to be executed right fucking now, and Jenna sitting back in the US going, "now you fuckers know why I didn't attend the Olympics!"
American_74911003
(5 posts)as they did the Nazis. This issue will be around quite a while, and Americans should keep voicing their outrage for these criminals. The only difference between people like the Bush folks and ISIS, is their religion and the Country they live in. These people need to be held accountable, one and all.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Glad you're here! I think we all would, my friend. And YES - WE can keep that alive by continuing to voice outrage about it. DO NOT let this momentum fizzle out!!! And if it does, it's OUR fault. If it does, that means we've allowed it, and we're okay with it, and it thus becomes US, then, too.
As my husband said this morning, unprompted, "America. We're not who we thought we were."
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)against humanity'.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Just to show how much I support their claim not to have committed any crimes, I vow to volunteer to serve on the jury.
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)If ANYONE would know, ol' kkkarl would. He WAS, after all, dubya's beloved pet Turdblossom.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)widely proven to be bullshit but still widely accepted.
From The Wire "The bigger the lie, the more they believe."
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)American voters endorse rectal feeding, invasion of Iraq and even 9/11 by judging the actions of the voters. This could be just the tip of the iceberg. Jeb Bush is well positioned for the Republican nomination for President. This isn't me speaking, this is the American voters speaking.
George II
(67,782 posts)Many of those that the voters elected weren't in government 10-12 years ago. I'm not sticking up for them, but 2014 American voters can't be accused of endorsing what happened back then.
Besides, less than 20% of American "voters" (i.e., REGISTERED American voters) voted for republicans last month.
The important thing is to get DEMOCRATIC voters out to the polls.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)He feeds himself rectally all the time. Through that asshole on top of his shoulders.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)were subjected to the techniques they so staunchly defend. With the purpose of acquiring important knowledge, of course, not punishment.
spanone
(135,823 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They belong in a prison cell.
Criminal, corrupt oligarchy. Democratic ideals, my ass.
Maineman
(854 posts)president. It seems presidents take care of ex-presidents, like Ford did for Nixon.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Hockey Dad
(70 posts)I've always considered Mr Rove to be rather like a substance that EXITS the anal cavity.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)rigging, and overselling his powers to the inbred financial elite.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Does he HAVE to keep his name in the public eye?
Do they think Fox News has some sort of subpoena power?
Are they getting good polling data that says Support Torture.
I don't get it. W's legacy is Rove's legacy.
elfin
(6,262 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)probably in the room as well, jerking him off.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Bush seems to get off on stuff like that.
All those people who were executed when he was governor and he mocks one of them who pleaded for clemency. Whether she deserved clemency or not, mocking her revealed something about who Bush really is and it isn't pleasant at all.
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)"Once you get into torture, you're lost. Understand, fear is the basis of it all. All our so-called civilization is covered with a veneer. Scratch it, and underneath you find fear". Paul Teitgen, survivor of Dachau concentration camp during World War II.
From the back of a book I have had for 16 years. 'The History of Torture' by Brian Innes. This whole mockery disguised behind the shield of 'national security' and necessity is a sham. We want the people of the world to fear us? Bow down on their knees like Michael Brown and we still execute those peoples and the ones not executed get tortured? USA! USA! USA!..... "Torture is a crime against humanity". Period.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)The man is a visionary!
GHW knew back in 2002 that torture, as ordered by the highest level of government, would be approved by a majority of Americans when most of them finally learned of it in late 2014!
It also proves we're still a Democracy, as we as a country proudly tortured as the majority of us wanted!
We are so exceptionally number one awesome as the leaders of the free world, aren't we, my fellow Americans?
-90% Jimmy
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