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Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:25 PM

"Rove Defends Rectal Feeding" ... says Bush was "briefed & intimately involved in" program decisions



"Git 'er done."

Karl Rove Says Bush Knew About CIA Interrogation Program, Defends Rectal Feeding
Posted: 12/14/2014 11:05 am EST Updated: 2 hours ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/karl-rove-torture_n_6322774.html

Karl Rove defended the CIA and former President George W. Bush on Sunday in the wake of the devastating Senate report on torture.

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Rove claimed the brutal forced rectal feedings -- which the report said were not medically necessary -- were used out of medical necessity.

The Senate report suggests that the CIA went to some pains to keep the program insulated from Bush -- an opinion shared by former agency General Counsel John Rizzo in his recent book. When the president was finally briefed on everything that happened under the program, the report said, he "expressed discomfort" at the image of a detainee chained to ceiling, clothed in a diaper, defecating on himself.

On Sunday, Rove said Bush was fully briefed on all of the CIA's tactics early on in the program in 2002, citing the former president's recent book.

"He was briefed and intimately involved in the decision," said Rove.

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Reply "Rove Defends Rectal Feeding" ... says Bush was "briefed & intimately involved in" program decisions (Original post)
Miles Archer Dec 2014 OP
Thor_MN Dec 2014 #1
arcane1 Dec 2014 #5
hifiguy Dec 2014 #11
arcane1 Dec 2014 #12
hifiguy Dec 2014 #14
arcane1 Dec 2014 #17
malokvale77 Dec 2014 #24
NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #29
arcane1 Dec 2014 #30
SummerSnow Dec 2014 #61
calimary Dec 2014 #33
George II Dec 2014 #41
NYtoBush-Drop Dead Dec 2014 #63
Scarsdale Dec 2014 #64
Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #2
Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #26
NuclearDem Dec 2014 #3
Cleita Dec 2014 #4
MoonRiver Dec 2014 #8
Cleita Dec 2014 #18
sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #28
99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #6
malokvale77 Dec 2014 #25
Sunlei Dec 2014 #7
Autumn Dec 2014 #9
Miles Archer Dec 2014 #10
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #13
SixString Dec 2014 #15
Rex Dec 2014 #16
louis-t Dec 2014 #19
malokvale77 Dec 2014 #27
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #20
COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #21
jmowreader Dec 2014 #23
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American_74911003 Dec 2014 #31
calimary Dec 2014 #35
sinkingfeeling Dec 2014 #32
A Simple Game Dec 2014 #45
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A Simple Game Dec 2014 #51
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JonLP24 Dec 2014 #36
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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:35 PM

1. Rove and Chenney, dragging W under the bus.

 

Nice choice of picture, with Laura and W demonstrating the technique.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:39 PM

5. I believe that photo is from the Olympics, shortly before he was "escorted" out

 

And looked drunk as hell in the process.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:01 PM

11. Yep, and he had to have been drunker than a boiled owl.

 

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:09 PM

12. "One foot after the other, Mr. President"

 




He had those weird scabs all over his arms, too.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:16 PM

14. And this idiot was Pretzeldent for eight years.

 

The look on his daughter's face in the OP pic is priceless. "Oh gawd, he's shitfaced again. This dope can't be my real father, can he??"

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:21 PM

17. Yeah, when I googled it, most of the photos had her and Laura looking embarrassed.

 

I wish there was video.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:53 PM

24. Why is Laura smiling? (nt)

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:58 AM

29. This picture was taken at a different time than the other. Notice the differences

 

in Laura's buttons, George's shirt (short sleeves v. long), etc.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:01 AM

30. Good catch. It was that other time he was carried out, I guess.

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:00 PM

61. too funny....



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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:33 PM

33. Why not? I don't know why anyone does NOT suspect as much!

This was a guy who tortured frogs when he was a kid, as I've read. Threw them up in the air with firecrackers in their mouths to watch 'em blow up. And cackled like a hen at the whole hilariousness of it all. Many studies show that kids who mistreat animals or pets or other smaller life forms are likely to grow up to be demonstrably sadistic - abusers and batterers - with a very basic disrespect for life and for others. In his case, he got to sit at the top of the ziggurat and order it done to others. WITH HIS PROUD AND EAGER APPROVAL. Stood it on a Bible and dressed it up in red-white-and-blue while he was at it, to give it some goooooo-oooood ol' "all-American" "Christian" cover, too.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:29 PM

41. Actually bush was DRIVING the bus.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:51 PM

63. lets waterboard these sonsof bitches

rove, cheney, bush , rummy , condi et al and see if it is torture.

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Response to NYtoBush-Drop Dead (Reply #63)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:35 AM

64. Rove

I get the feeling Rove is used to "rectal inserts" Wasn't there talk of him cruising the gay bars in DC, especially the biker, rough sex ones? The male prostitute Jeff Gannon could shed light on the whole WH gang, since he visited so many, many times. I wonder if Cheney and Rove got copies of the tortute techniques for their private collections? Scooter Libby should find his spine, come forward with what he knows. After all, he was thrown under the bus by the vile group during the Valerie Plame ordeal.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:36 PM

2. This from the guy Dubya nicknamed Turd Blossom. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:59 PM

26. Yup.

Olde Karl should be first in line for the rectal "feedings" since he's an asshole.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:37 PM

3. He's naturally an authority on the issue of the rectum, being a supreme asshat.

 

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:37 PM

4. They just keep incriminating themselves and each other.

Why is there not a prosecutor who will step up and charge them with war crimes?

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Response to Cleita (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:54 PM

8. There is, but he works in the Hague.

Can people be tried in absentia there? U.S. will never deport them, but , maybe we could get a conviction anyway.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:33 PM

18. That would be better than them going unpunished.

It is a punishment of sorts and their histories would have that smear on their characters.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:05 AM

28. The Wikileaks leaks explained why other countries haven't indicted the torturers.

A Spanish Court were in the process of charging six of Bush's henchmen with War Crimes a few years ago. The judge was the same judge who went after Pinnochet.

People were hopeful that justice might finally be happening.

The court had jurisdiction so it looked good.

And then time went by and nothing happened.

It was disappointing.

We began to hear smears aimed at the judge.

Other than that, nothing.

And then Wikileaks released those cables.

And we found out why that case seemed to have gone away.

The Obama administration had placed pressure on the Spanish Court to stop the prosecutions.

Among the six were Gonzales and Yoo I believe, I can't remember all the others.

So, for now, that case is stalled. The US Government not only won't charge their own War Criminals, they go after any other country that tries to do it.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:50 PM

6. Good. I hope Rove keeps talking

 

Here KKKarl, would you like a bit more rope?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025951749

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 11:57 PM

25. ^^^ this ^^^

I rec'd your post while I was at it.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:51 PM

7. Those Ghouls all watched hours of the torture videos and are desensitized to the suffering

deĚsenĚsiĚtize


/dēˈsensəˌtīz/


verb

make (someone) less likely to feel shock or distress at scenes of cruelty, violence, or suffering by overexposure to such images.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:55 PM

9. I'm thinking Dickie boy held the nozzle for kicks and shared the videos with GW and their friends

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Response to Autumn (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:00 PM

10. I am sure you remember that...

...one of Andy Card's ongoing responsibilities was to oversee the making of a "daily news briefing" DVD for Junior...primarily culled from Fox, of course...so I have no doubt that the "highlights" made it on to disc for his ongoing enjoyment.

I can see him sitting there cackling "Wanted...dead or alive. Heh heh heh. Y'all can run, but fool me twice, can't get fooled again. Heh heh heh."

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:12 PM

13. I could hope that he gets even more "intimately involved" but I'm not a sadist.

 

Or, is that "patriot"?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:16 PM

15. If there's ever any doubt about how we've been fucked...

...just take a look at that dumb sumbitch in that pic.

That's a two term president.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:18 PM

16. Imagine that, Cheney and Rove have no loyalty to Bush.

 

Probably couldn't stand each other.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:34 PM

19. That makes two.....

I made a comment last week about the enablers all pointing fingers away from themselves. C'mon Alberto and Condi, you're next.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:02 AM

27. Alberto already did.

I read it on here yesterday.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:53 PM

20. briefed on it?

 

He probably still has the DVD's!

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:09 PM

21. I would defend rectal feeding of Rove. n t

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:23 PM

23. In Rove's case, that means simply smearing him with peanut butter

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:31 AM

62. I'd have trouble figuring which end to stick the tube in Rove.

That thing they've been passing off as Rove's face looks like an ass.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 06:22 PM

22. Thanks for posting that photo!

That's exactly the one I was looking for...Dubya completely trashed, Laura looking like she graduated from Xanax to Thorazine, Barbara wondering just how minor of a crime she has to commit to be executed right fucking now, and Jenna sitting back in the US going, "now you fuckers know why I didn't attend the Olympics!"

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:44 AM

31. I would like to see the World Court on War Crimes charge them...

as they did the Nazis. This issue will be around quite a while, and Americans should keep voicing their outrage for these criminals. The only difference between people like the Bush folks and ISIS, is their religion and the Country they live in. These people need to be held accountable, one and all.

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Response to American_74911003 (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:37 PM

35. Welcome to DU, American_74911003!

Glad you're here! I think we all would, my friend. And YES - WE can keep that alive by continuing to voice outrage about it. DO NOT let this momentum fizzle out!!! And if it does, it's OUR fault. If it does, that means we've allowed it, and we're okay with it, and it thus becomes US, then, too.

As my husband said this morning, unprompted, "America. We're not who we thought we were."

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:08 PM

32. Then Bush, Cheney, and company should all be on trial for 'crimes

against humanity'.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:36 PM

45. A trial would be the one sure way for them to once and for all clear their names.

Just to show how much I support their claim not to have committed any crimes, I vow to volunteer to serve on the jury.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #45)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:48 PM

46. So you agree to the use of torture?

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:05 PM

51. No, I don't agree with torture but I agree I should know by now to use the sarcasm thingy. n/t

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:35 PM

34. Considering how close they were, I'd give this particular speaker a lot of credibility.

If ANYONE would know, ol' kkkarl would. He WAS, after all, dubya's beloved pet Turdblossom.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:39 PM

36. Wouldn't be the first time they came up with creative bullshit

widely proven to be bullshit but still widely accepted.

From The Wire "The bigger the lie, the more they believe."

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:42 PM

37. Largest Republican Majority Since Herbert Hoover

American voters endorse rectal feeding, invasion of Iraq and even 9/11 by judging the actions of the voters. This could be just the tip of the iceberg. Jeb Bush is well positioned for the Republican nomination for President. This isn't me speaking, this is the American voters speaking.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:28 PM

40. That's an over simplification and/or an exaggeration.

Many of those that the voters elected weren't in government 10-12 years ago. I'm not sticking up for them, but 2014 American voters can't be accused of endorsing what happened back then.

Besides, less than 20% of American "voters" (i.e., REGISTERED American voters) voted for republicans last month.

The important thing is to get DEMOCRATIC voters out to the polls.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:53 PM

38. Rove should know.

He feeds himself rectally all the time. Through that asshole on top of his shoulders.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:09 PM

39. I really wish that all the torture deniers

 

were subjected to the techniques they so staunchly defend. With the purpose of acquiring important knowledge, of course, not punishment.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:30 PM

42. cheney said the same thing....the cia NEVER LIED TO THE BUSH ADM....they were deep into it.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:30 PM

43. K&R

They belong in a prison cell.

Criminal, corrupt oligarchy. Democratic ideals, my ass.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:33 PM

44. They are all jumping on George W's coat tails assuming he will be pardoned because of having been

president. It seems presidents take care of ex-presidents, like Ford did for Nixon.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:49 PM

47. ,

 

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:52 PM

48. Yet another war criminal heard from ... eom

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 02:14 PM

49. Good to know that Karl is expert on torture

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:18 PM

50. How intimately?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:23 PM

52. Odd, Actually

 

I've always considered Mr Rove to be rather like a substance that EXITS the anal cavity.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:39 PM

53. this is why satire is so difficult

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:40 PM

54. Karl probably pays someone to rectally feed him, so meals won't interrupt voter suppression, vote...

rigging, and overselling his powers to the inbred financial elite.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:00 PM

55. Why even go on the air?

Does he HAVE to keep his name in the public eye?
Do they think Fox News has some sort of subpoena power?
Are they getting good polling data that says Support Torture.

I don't get it. W's legacy is Rove's legacy.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:10 PM

56. Should be "Rove Defends Anal Probes" (for feeding). eom

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:00 PM

57. Not to defend Bush, but he probably didn't know what "rectal" meant

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:37 PM

58. I think he did know, but thought they were referring to where his brain was.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:42 PM

59. He will be associated with "Rectal" on Google forever ...and that's a good thing.

 

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:01 PM

60. Bush probably had a live feed, so he could watch, who are we kidding? Rove was

 

probably in the room as well, jerking him off.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #60)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:10 AM

65. Seriously

Bush seems to get off on stuff like that.

All those people who were executed when he was governor and he mocks one of them who pleaded for clemency. Whether she deserved clemency or not, mocking her revealed something about who Bush really is and it isn't pleasant at all.



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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:13 AM

66. Someone needs to explain the concept of "tempting fate" to this Nazi piece of shit.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:41 AM

67. aren't they just a beautiful couple...sarcasm

 

"Once you get into torture, you're lost. Understand, fear is the basis of it all. All our so-called civilization is covered with a veneer. Scratch it, and underneath you find fear". Paul Teitgen, survivor of Dachau concentration camp during World War II.

From the back of a book I have had for 16 years. 'The History of Torture' by Brian Innes. This whole mockery disguised behind the shield of 'national security' and necessity is a sham. We want the people of the world to fear us? Bow down on their knees like Michael Brown and we still execute those peoples and the ones not executed get tortured? USA! USA! USA!..... "Torture is a crime against humanity". Period.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:41 PM

68. Perhaps he is well aquainted with such methods.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:54 PM

69. So GWB approved of rectal feeding way back in 2002?

The man is a visionary!

GHW knew back in 2002 that torture, as ordered by the highest level of government, would be approved by a majority of Americans when most of them finally learned of it in late 2014!

It also proves we're still a Democracy, as we as a country proudly tortured as the majority of us wanted!

We are so exceptionally number one awesome as the leaders of the free world, aren't we, my fellow Americans?

-90% Jimmy

And, just to avoid misunderstandings, this is indeed an attempt at:


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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:00 AM

70. Stick it up your ass, Karl. n/t

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