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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:44 PM

Um…who the Hell green-lighted this picture???

Is it really a GOOD IDEA in this frightening world to posit that two American Cornholios should go and assassinate a foreign leader at the behest of an agency of its own Government? Really? It would be one thing if it were one of those intriguing spy thrillers wherein the American or Brit has to save the life of a despised King-For-Life or President-For-Life in order to maintain balance or some other contrived crapola, but when I saw the trailer for the film and the commercials on TeeVee, I cringed in my clothes. We as Americans claim to be so deeply affected by the assassinations and attempted assassinations of our own prominent people, and then we are asked to pay money to see a film in which we seem to be drafting civilians into joining a comedy-based international death squad tasked with killing a leader of a foreign country? Really? Not just puerile, but downright stupid, and moronically conceived from the beginning.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:45 PM

1. Agreed /nt

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:46 PM

2. Nobody said boo

when TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE came out.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:47 PM

4. I thought of that, too...

 

Maybe North Korea didn't have hacking ability back then!

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:40 PM

27. Maybe. Definitely didn't have a new leader wanting to throw his weight around. (nt)

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:18 PM

43. Did not see a movie with such a stupid title.

Did it single out actual people who are currently alive to kill??? Because that would have been immature and ignorant, too.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #43)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:02 PM

54. Yep. A bunch of them.....

 

- Including Kim Jong-il, who is really an alien cockroach from the planet Gyron. I always say you can never trust a Gyronese......



Plot

Team America: World Police, a paramilitary anti-terrorism force, has a home base located inside Mount Rushmore. The team comprises Lisa, a psychologist; Carson, her love interest; Sarah, an alleged psychic; Joe, a jock who is in love with Sarah; and Chris, a martial arts expert who harbors a deep mistrust of actors. The team is led by Spottswoode and a supercomputer named I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.. Having tracked down a group of terrorists in Paris, France, the team inadvertently destroys the Eiffel Tower, the Arc de Triomphe and The Louvre during a gun battle. Carson proposes to Lisa, but a surviving terrorist guns him down. As a replacement, Spottswoode recruits Gary Johnston, a Broadway actor with college majors in Theater and World Languages. Unbeknownst to the team, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il is supplying international terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.

Using his acting skills, Gary successfully infiltrates a terrorist group in Cairo, Egypt. The team manages to kill the terrorists and foil their plot, but the city is left in ruins. For their actions regarding Cairo, the team is criticized by the Film Actors Guild (F.A.G.), a union of liberal Hollywood actors led by Gary's favorite actor, Alec Baldwin, and also consists of Matt Damon, Liv Tyler, Samuel L. Jackson, Janeane Garofalo, George Clooney, Susan Sarandon, Ethan Hawke, Helen Hunt, Martin Sheen, Danny Glover, Sean Penn, and Tim Robbins. As the team relaxes following their victory, Gary tells Lisa about his childhood: his acting talent caused his brother to be killed by gorillas. While the two express their feelings and have sex, a group of terrorists blow up the Panama Canal as retaliation for what had happened to Cairo.

The Film Actors Guild again blames Team America over the incident regarding the Panama Canal. Gary, realizing that his acting talents have once again resulted in tragedy, abandons the others. The original members depart for Derkaderkastan, but are captured by terrorists, which include the North Korean government. Filmmaker Michael Moore vengefully infiltrates the team's Mount Rushmore base and suicide bombs the area. In North Korea, Kim Jong-il hosts a peace ceremony, inviting the Film Actors Guild and all the world's political leaders. Using the ceremony as a mere distraction, Kim Jong-il plans to detonate a series of bombs throughout the world, reducing every nation to a Third World Country. During a depressed state as an alcoholic, Gary finds himself reminded of his responsibility by a speech from a drunken drifter. Upon returning to Mount Rushmore, he finds the area in ruins, though Spottswoode and I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. have survived.

After regaining Spottswoode's trust by giving him a blowjob and undergoing a one-day training course, Gary is sent to North Korea, where he uses his acting skills to free the other members. The team then engages in a violent battle with the Film Actors Guild in which most of the actors are brutally killed. After Gary uses his acting skills to save Chris's life, Chris finally confesses to Gary that he mistrusts actors because when he was 19 years old, he was raped by the cast of the musical Cats. The team then confronts Kim Jong-il. Gary goes on stage and convinces the world's leaders to unite by using the drifter's emotional speech. Kim Jong-il kills Alec Baldwin with an assault rifle, and then is kicked over a balcony by Lisa. He is impaled on a Pickelhaube and is revealed to be an alien cockroach from the planet Gyron. The cockroach then departs in a miniature spaceship, promising to return. As Gary and Lisa begin a relationship, the team reunites, preparing to combat all of the world's remaining terrorists.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:52 PM

51. they pulled the movie

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #51)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:12 AM

71. Good, is someone trying to start more wars?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:47 PM

3. The theme of the movie is truly disgusting, no matter who the national leader targeted. No one wants

to state the obvious.

Thank you.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:48 PM

5. I got nothing.

No argument here.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:49 PM

6. Franco and Rogen must have polaroids of the Sony execs.

Even the higher-ups hated this movie. Why was it made? They are probably counting their blessings that they have an excuse to let it get flushed.

http://defamer.gawker.com/leaked-emails-the-interview-sucked-for-sony-even-befor-1671234001

"A previous report by Bloomberg said Sony execs altered the gory finale of The Interview, toning down the extent to which Kim Jong Un's head is exploded and set aflame. But the movie faced more problems than just Supreme Leader's immolation scene—Sony executives and distribution partners around the world were worried that the movie was too offensive, "desperately unfunny," and worst of all, starred James Franco.

Emails sent from UK Sony Pictures exec Peter Taylor to president of Sony Pictures Releasing International Steven O'Dell are particularly harsh, describing the comedy as a "misfire," "unfunny and repetitive," with "a level of realistic violence that would be shocking in a horror movie." Taylor holds one of the film's co-stars in particularly low regard: "James Franco proves once again that irritation is his strong suit which is a shame because the character could have been appealing and funny out of his hands."

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:50 PM

7. Love it! Thanks!! nt

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:07 PM

10. Tonight on TNT: "Desperately Unfunny: The Seth Rogen Story"

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Response to FSogol (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:21 PM

18. My roommate claims that this is karma for fu$king up Green Hornet!

Every single time Rogen's name is mentioned!

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:50 PM

62. Seth Rogen is only believable as an assassin if the target is comedy.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:04 PM

8. One of those guys was on The Daily Show, and I swear he has the most moronic laugh I have ever heard

Hyuk hyuk hyuk with mouth wide open and head a-bobbin'

It figures he was in on the so-called joke, but that begs the question as to whether there were any grownups at all involved in this process.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:07 PM

9. I can hear the pitch now:

See Boss, these two guys who are like Dumb and Dumberer go to North Korea and get involved with zany shit, try to kill the PM. You can just see that hilarity ensues!!! Can't miss boss. Let's drop 100 million on the production...

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:40 PM

26. The Idiocracy takes no prisoners. And Hollywood is a cesspool.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:33 PM

46. That was Rogen ...

you captured his essence. He thinks he's hilarious.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:37 PM

68. Seth rogan was on stephen colbert's last night...

And you're right his laugh is most annoying.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:10 PM

11. Who cares? We don't have state-run media, and most of us like it that way.

If occasional bombs and blunders happen, so much the better. At least it's some risk-taking, and not just the normal pablum that passes for cinema in modern Hollywood.

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Response to TransitJohn (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:10 AM

70. Thank you. Apparently, some people on this

progressive site are getting their knickers in a knot because they cannot dictate what movies can be made and seen. Sickening.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #70)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:26 AM

83. Yup.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #70)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:59 AM

106. Oh I see....

Did I say that they can't make this film? Did I say that the government should stop them from making it? Did I infer that I didn't think it was a good idea to make this film? These are different issues. But then again I wasn't attempting to start a specious argument.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #106)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:55 PM

162. In this jump to conclusions

culture we live in now, saying somebody in the industry should have stopped it = a threat to freedom of speech.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #162)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:25 PM

163. Yeah…except I didn't even say THAT...

All I said was that I personally, if I am actually entitled to hold an opinion around here, thought that it was foolish to green light the project. Jesus…if I posted that 2+2=4, there'd be five people up my asshole that I was prejudiced against odd numbers. But that is their whole purpose for being here….

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #163)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 10:17 AM

164. So even more nuance

that cannot be fathomed by some. I agree--the black & white thinkers have invaded. "I'm right so you must be...wrong."

Tiring. But that's their purpose, yes.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #164)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:25 PM

166. Great minds think alike...!

DU Rules prevent me from venting my spleen.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #166)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:39 PM

169. & great minds rarely deal in absolutes...

understood

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Response to TransitJohn (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:21 AM

79. Yes, I just can't wait for the edgy new Hollywood offering where assassins from North Korea target

 

our own President.

Yep, that would go over big, no doubt. Free speech and all that.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #79)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:27 AM

84. That movie has already been made

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Response to Shrek (Reply #84)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:29 AM

89. Some people don't Google so well...

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Response to Shrek (Reply #84)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:41 AM

99. i don't recall President Benjamin Asher. Was he before Bush II?

 

The pukefest currently under offer names the current NK Pres and apparently uses his image.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #99)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:17 AM

113. I give you this

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

It's Bush being assassinated.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #79)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:27 AM

87. So it did...



I mean we "won" but barely. Won all the way to the bank to the tune of 161 million... And no terrorist threats. Ain't America great?

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Response to TransitJohn (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:36 PM

154. I agree. nt

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Response to TransitJohn (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:20 PM

161. Risk-taking of an artistic variety? not likely.

This film, judging by the trailer, is today's typical comedic pablum.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:12 PM

12. It's a tragedy that it's not going to be seen. nt

 

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Response to Ykcutnek (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:13 PM

14. Yeah, I'm sitting shiva… nt

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:12 PM

13. Freedom of speech

No one should decide what to produce to cater to the mega-ego of that murdering little asshole.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:11 PM

40. Indeed. n/t

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:29 AM

90. Yup.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:46 PM

156. Right the fuck on

I can't believe what some are saying here.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:15 PM

15. I doubt that it's any stupider than most of the comedies released these days.

It's a shame that Sony caved in to a bunch of half-assed terrorist wannabes, though.

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Response to NaturalHigh (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:19 PM

16. whether this piece of garbage is shown or not is of no interest to me...

what I almost cannot believe is that they made this without thinking of the ramifications. Expensive mistake…maybe. We shall see.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:45 PM

28. why should we have been kinder to Hitler too?

 

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:05 PM

38. LOL, I know you think you are an expert on most stuff.....

 

But what makes you think you have ANY IDEA about a film being green-lighted or not??

Maybe you need to stop "saving life's" and go into the movie business!

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Response to Logical (Reply #38)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:13 AM

72. Yes, I'm still waiting for that

Ebola epidemic that, according to the OP, was supposed to have swept us nationwide and taken out half the country or more by now, unless dictatorial measures were taken to stop it. Yep. Still waiting.........and waiting.............

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #72)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:13 AM

73. I know, he predicted a severe outbreak. Never happen. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #73)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:07 AM

107. No I did not

But you're not worth the effort.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:20 PM

17. Borat made shipload of money so pictures like this were/are inevitable

Where they screwed up was using a real nut when they could have made it generic, perhaps with strong hints. Borat cost $18 mil to make and pulled down $261 mil in theaters before going on to DVD, Netflicks, etc. So Hollywood does what Hollywood does...

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:43 PM

60. I don't think the plot of the Borat movie was to assassinate a world leader

He just made asses of people.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #60)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:28 AM

88. Not just an all-purpose world leader: a NAMED world leader. It's as if someone made

 

a film about assassinating Queen Elizabeth, or Prime Minister Stephen Harper, or President Francoise Holland.

IOW, it's beyond the pale, even if we dislike the leader. IMO. We'd never tolerate it if the film were about our own named leader.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #88)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:31 AM

91. Speak for yourself.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #91)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:42 AM

100. Are you confused? Did I claim to speak for someone else?

 

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #100)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:02 AM

108. When you used the collective "we"...

But hey maybe I need better glasses.

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Response to NewDeal_Dem (Reply #88)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:00 AM

145. Except the Brits made a film about asssassinating President GW Bush and we did tolerate it.

 

America, in fact, did not give a flying fuck about it. That includes Bush, who frankly would have had a right to express some distaste for the project but did not.
2006. Death of a President
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

Always amusing when people claim 'we'd never' when we already have.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #60)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:44 AM

116. but Sasha Baron Cohen used a made up country instead of a real one

The fictional country in Borat had hints of Afghanistan and Pakistan but claimed to be neither of those.

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #116)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:03 AM

121. Borat is from Kazakhstan

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/life_and_art/2006/11/the_real_kazakhstan.html

According to this article on Slate: "Borat's Kazakhstan bears little resemblance to the real Kazakhstan. Little resemblance, but not no resemblance."

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Response to deutsey (Reply #121)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:16 AM

127. Thanks. My apologies to the glorious, and very real, nation of Kazakhstan.

In 2012 an athletic event in Kuwait erroneously played the Borat parody version of Kazakstan's anthem during a gold medal ceremony as seen here:



Coach Anvar Yunusmetov told Kazakh news agency Tengrinews that the tournament's organisers had also got the Serbian national anthem wrong.

"Then Maria Dmitrienko's turn came," he said. "She got up on to the pedestal and they played a completely different anthem, offensive to Kazakhstan."

The spoof song praises Kazakhstan for its superior potassium exports and for having the cleanest prostitutes in the region.
...
The film outraged people in Kazakhstan and was eventually banned in the country. The government also threatened Baron Cohen with legal action.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-17491344



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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #127)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:50 AM

141. It was very gracious of her to recognize they made a mistake, but to wait patiently for it to end

 


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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #116)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:06 AM

122. It was Kazakhstan - which is a real country.

 

The Kazak govt threatened to sue Cohen - they didn't threaten to bomb theaters.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:26 PM

19. That is kind of weird

 

I wouldn't have seen it anyway, but it's a strange subject to broach. OTOH it's preposterous, so I think the outrage is sort of dumb.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:27 PM

20. Did Kim's feefees get hurt?

 

I'm sure Saddam didn't appreciate being Satan's lover. I'm sure Hitler didn't like being portrayed as a bumbling idiot by Chaplin.

Who gives a fuck? It's a movie--don't like it, don't see it. Plenty of sand to go around.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:06 PM

39. "Who gives a fuck? It's a movie--don't like it, don't see it."

 

Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen a single movie in the "Leprechaun" series.

I've survived not seeing them too.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #39)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:46 PM

61. You're missing out on some gems.

Leprachaun: Back To Tha Hood was worth every minute. A tear fell from my eye a few times, and I gave a standing ovation at the end.

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Response to chrisa (Reply #61)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:51 PM

63. Okay, now I gotta go check it out.

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:29 PM

21. FFS, dramatic much?? No more ebola to freak out about I guess. nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:34 PM

22. FFS? Wow...

Holding a grudge I see. You're right: I'm the first person to post about this subject.

And BTW, since you like three-letters, I was exactly correct about the Ebola nightmare.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:38 PM

24. LOL not you were not. But keep up the front. nt

 

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:20 AM

76. Bullshit. Where are the countless numbers of

American victims you were breathlessly and hysterically predicting unless drastic, dictatorial measures were taken? Where's the disintegration of our society you were predicting along with such numbers of victims, again, unless such dictatorial measures were taken? Let's see, less than ten American victims as opposed to the countless numbers you were insisting would happen because the big bad government didn't clamp down on people the way you wanted it to. Yeah, you sure were "exactly correct" alright. LOL.

And now you want to dictate what movies can and cannot be made and what we can and cannot see. No fucking thank you. We still have some modicum of freedom in this country, we are not North Korea yet.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:37 PM

23. Horseshit.

 

Day of the Jackel. The various films and books about killing W. Hell, Lincoln.

If this stands we get more of it. Mine a harbor.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:39 PM

25. We're free to make stupid movies

and people can decide for themselves if they want to see the movie or not. But thanks to North Korea and their hacking of Sony, we don't get to decide if the movie was good or not. Terrorism works.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:53 PM

64. ^^^ This ^^^

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Response to neverforget (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:21 AM

78. This, exactly,

thank you. We've become a nation of fraidy-cat wimps.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:31 AM

92. Yup.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:58 PM

33. Whoa!

 

Almost every CIA station had case officers dedicated to working with labor unions, intellectuals, youth and student organizations, journalists, veterans, women’s groups, and more. The Agency dealt directly with foreign representatives of these groups, but it also subsidized their activities indirectly by laundering funds through allied organizations based in the United States.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:49 PM

30. The agencies that protect these dictators are not exactly stupid.

To think they have never thought such an attempt could happen until this movie was made is pretty silly.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:52 PM

31. Fuck fascists.

All any stupid little tantrum trowing piece of shit has to do now is to threaten mayhem.

And we concede.

Yeah.

And you you give a screaming toddler in the checkout line the candy bar and totally fuck the rest of your life.

We are totally fucked

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:28 PM

44. "We are totally fucked"

I am afraid so. We have enough problems with elements within our own government without citizens wanting to cave and change our behavior because of outside threats.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:54 PM

32. When I saw the previews, my first thought was: Well, this is going to make "The Blair witch project"

 

...look like 2001, Gone with the wind and Citizen Kane....all wrapped up in one.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:58 PM

34. Ask why... Team America: World Police ...didn't raise some hell with N.Korea.

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #34)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:01 PM

53. That was dad

Apparently son is more sensitive

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:59 PM

35. yep

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:02 PM

36. Hillary Clinton was running the State Dept. at the time

 

As she is a full-fledged card-carrying member of the War Party it makes sense that she'd be involved in this.

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Response to Man from Pickens (Reply #36)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:24 AM

80. LMAO

 

your post? for real???

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Response to Man from Pickens (Reply #36)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:04 AM

135. DUZY!!! Right? You were trying to be funny, right? nt

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:02 PM

37. "downright stupid, and moronically conceived from the beginning."

 

Exactly like the Neocons.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:12 PM

41. Probably the same a holes who conversed by email about the president's . . .

taste in movies, Angelina Jolie's lack of talent and that Denzel Washington shoot never be cast in big international movies because he's black.

Green lighting that movie was about the same level of stupidity as writing that stuff in emails and pressing send, thus documenting it in cyberspace for forever.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:13 PM

42. Stupid Movie but...feels like some anonymous group is creating a chilling effect.



What happened to the idea that free speech is my accepting your right to say something with which I disagree.

The movie's isn't on my to-do list and you're right..whoever decided to push it though should have their head examined. That said, for some unknown reason, someone unknown (assumed to be NK related) desperately does not want you and I to see it.

Feels like we're creating a bad precedent here because the content being suppressed is so easily ridiculed.

How are we going to feel when some indie film group does an amazing movie about how two rich brothers have co-opted a country with the world's most powerful military. Those two brothers eventually "but the country" through their political contributions and they're about to get handed the "nuclear football" when Wesley Snipes (escaped from prison) and Kristen Bell suddenly expose the brothers for who they are - just a couple greedy libertarians who got theirs in the past and now want to be sure nobody else gets theirs today.

What happens when that indie studio is hacked by some "unknown group" and their opening is threatened with violence.

Will we be so quick to say "that was a dumb movie".

Separate the content from the process here and it looks pretty f'ing scary.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #42)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:39 AM

103. Jaw-dropping anecdote recounted here. Do your ideals still apply?

http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/12/safeminds-lyn-redwood-deafening-silence-the-systematic-censorship-of-the-truth-about-vaccines.html

Note: The article below is from our sponsor, Safeminds. Please join us in thanking Lyn Redwood for her tenure on IACC, where she fought for families facing all of the challenges of autism from vaccine induced cause through adult issues. She stepped down this year. If you're relatively new to Age of Autism and/or the vaccine injury community, please read Evidence of Harm by David Kirby to learn how Lyn Redwood, a nurse, set off the earliest alarm bells about mercury and vaccination, when doctors, scientists and governement watchdogs were oblivious.

December 10, 2014
By Lyn Redwood


Years ago I was interviewed for a news story regarding my son’s mercury toxicity related to medications I received while I was pregnant and his exposure to mercury from his early infant vaccines.

The reporter did an extensive interview with my husband, who is a physician and myself, a registered nurse, at our home. The show was to include a review of my son’s medical records. The television crew also interviewed several local experts for the report, which was scheduled as a hard-hitting three-part investigation regarding mercury and autism.

The promotions began airing the same morning that the first part of the series was scheduled to run. It was to be shown during the evening news.

By 2:00 p.m. that afternoon I received notification that the story had been pulled.

I was shocked.

This was my first time personally dealing with censorship by the media.

Unfortunately it was not my last.

Several years later I was approached by a movie production company that planned to produce a feature film based on David Kirby’s best selling book Evidence of Harm. They wanted to use the personal story of my son as a major part of the movie.

But after purchasing the movie rights to the book and embarking on development of the script for 36 months, the production company decided not to move forward with production of the film. Insiders told us that external pressure from several high-profile individuals caused the production company to reconsider.

Shortly thereafter the production company partnered with CDC and made the movie Contagion, a medical thriller about a global pandemic.


Need I say more?

<>

So I wasn’t surprised to see that journalist Jennifer Margulis, Ph.D., who reports so meticulously and reasonably about vaccines that she has been criticized by both pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine camps, recently had her work censored.

When that TV show exposing the vaccine-autism link was pulled from the airwaves all those years ago, the censorship was so effective that no one knew what had happened or why.

The mainstream media had a stranglehold on what information reached the public.

That’s no longer the case...


Jennifer Margulis, Ph.D., is an award-winning journalist and Fulbright grantee. Her articles have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and on the cover of Smithsonian Magazine. She is the author/editor of five books, including The Business of Baby (Scribner), finalist for a Books For a Better Life Award, which will be published in paperback under the new title, Your Baby, Your Way. She has taught literature in inner city Atlanta; appeared live on prime-time TV in France; and worked on a child survival campaign in Niger. She lives in Oregon with her husband and four children.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #103)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:20 AM

129. Paranoid fantasy

By some anti-vax nutter.

Utter and complete bullshit.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #129)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:26 PM

153. Blather... "by some anti-vax nutter..." Do you stand by that mischaracterization?

You know not of what you speak. Redwood's expertise is undeniable though you may disagree with her conclusions.

http://www.safeminds.org/blog/2014/12/10/deafening-silence-systematic-censorship-truth-vaccines/

Lyn Redwood, R.N., M.S.N., is co-founder and board member of SafeMinds and cofounder of the National Autism Association.

In 2000, she testified before the Government Reform Committee on “Mercury in medicine: Are we taking unnecessary risks?” and in 2003 before a Congressional sub-committee on health.

She has published in Neurotoxicology, Molecular Psychiatry, Medical Hypotheses, Mothering Magazine, and Autism-Aspergers Digest; appeared on Good Morning America and the Montel Williams Show; and been interviewed by U.S News and World Report, Wired Magazine, and People.

She is prominently featured in David Kirby’s award-winning book, Evidence of Harm.

Lyn Redwood also served on the Department of Defense Autism Spectrum Disorder Research Program from 2007-2009 and served as a public member of the National Institutes of Health Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee for the past eight years.

She was awarded the National Autism Association’s Believe Award in 2013 for her dedication to the autism community.

http://www.safeminds.org/about-2/mission/
http://www.safeminds.org/advocacy-2/advocacy/

Off-topic, so I'll beg off. You can have the last word.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #103)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:40 AM

151. Anti-Vax bullshit has great potential for harm

 

Nobody has right to make anyone else show it.
Sucumbing to pressure from a foreign country on his movie is in absolutely no way related.
May I repeat, anti-vax bullshit harms people, the movie harmed no one.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #151)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:45 PM

155. Product loyalty is limitless and supersedes science (because none of it can possibly be reasonable)?

Check out some of those National Children’s Study Proposed Core Hypotheses: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014966033
Check out the MUMPER STUDY: http://najms.net/wp-content/uploads/v06i03.pdf#page=34
May I encourage you to define your pejorative terms with greater care: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5944629

IMO, information is part of informed consent and is for everyone, not just policymakers.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #155)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:38 PM

158. Peer reviewed science over woo any day.

 

I am no lover of the drug companies. But much less a lover of those who make money on false studies and garbage products.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #103)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:08 PM

160. Age of Autism. LOL

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:30 PM

45. You're almost onto it.......

Really? Not just puerile, but downright stupid, and moronically conceived from the beginning.


Oughta be a blockbuster......! Given the vapidity of so many Americans these days, and what they are willing to absorb as "entertainment", and spend money for.........bound to be a hit!

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:37 PM

47. to what movie are you referring?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:39 PM

48. Yes, it is a good idea. N/t

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:39 PM

49. *yawn* So you don't like it. That matters why, exactly? n/t

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:47 PM

50. Pineapple Express was a huge hit. Rogen was golden.

 

He said he didnt want to do another mindless stoner movie but something to make a political statement with humor.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:55 PM

52. 'Noah', 'Godzilla', 'Men, Women & Children', 'Left Behind'. 'Atlas Shrugged Part III', 'Blended'

There is no shortage of crap to watch.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:08 PM

55. I agree with the poster that remarked that this creates a dangerous precedent.

Had the studios pulled Oliver Stone's "W." because the Bush Administration protested, everyone here would have a fit. And rightfully so. But the OP is propagating a double standard.

It is disturbing to me that any government, foreign or domestic, can suppress a work of fiction, made freely and with artistic license, however tasteless. It is censorship, at the behest of a despicable regime nonetheless.

Only a matter of time before a Koch Brother's documentary gets pulled "for being factually inaccurate" or something.

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Response to BlueEye (Reply #55)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:19 PM

57. It's damage control not bowing to censorship

Censorship would be the U.S. government grabbing this movie from Sony and forbidding them to show it. That did not happen.

Sony pulled the picture because they decided the cost of being assholes was too high. When you have the right of free speech, you're not guaranteed freedom from consequences. They thought -- for some bizarre reason -- that this insulting and incendiary "comedy" about assassinating a country's ruler was a good idea and they yell "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre without anyone getting hurt.

Pulling the movie is considerably more prudent than the decision to produce it. They were not FORCED to withdraw the movie by the U.S. government or by the North Korean government. But they certainly were forced to consider the consequences of their actions.

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Response to Boomer (Reply #57)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:29 AM

114. No, Sony pulled it because the major chains dropped it out of fear

of being bombed or attacked.

The cost of distribution is now too high for the few theaters that would end up showing it.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #114)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:18 AM

147. This is what I think has happened, not so much a censorship issue.

People will stay away from the theaters out of fear.

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Response to BlueEye (Reply #55)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:15 PM

66. Didn't NPR already pull a Koch Bros. Documentary

That they (Koch Bros) deemed too critical of them?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #66)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:57 AM

111. Did they? I did not hear that, but you're probably right.

It's a damn shame if they did. There is a Koch Bros documentary on Netflix that did survive the corporate censorship process, it's pretty decent.

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Response to BlueEye (Reply #111)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:32 AM

140. I can't remember where I heard about it

But I do believe that they loudly objected to an NPR doc or story (maybe it was Frontline) and I guess they had some leverage w/NPR to get it pulled.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:15 PM

56. K&R

 



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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:41 PM

58. I walked out on the trailer.

And I was in my living room.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:42 PM

59. As much as I think the idea of the movie is dumb, it was done about a decade ago....

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #59)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:39 AM

96. There have been reports Kim Jong-il was actually a fan of that movie

Seriously. Some have reported that he owned a private copy and apparently enjoyed it.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:12 PM

65. I thought I was the only one who thought the plot was in very poor taste. Imagine if another

country made a film, a *comedy* no less, about assassinating our president. We'd be rattling our sabers, at the very least.

Once again, I'm embarrassed for our country.

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Response to Stardust (Reply #65)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:33 AM

93. We make tons of films about it ourselves.

No need for anyone else to do it.

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Response to Stardust (Reply #65)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:08 AM

146. Except the Brits made a film about asssassinating President GW Bush in 2006

 

And it was deadly serious. America, Bush included, yawned at the sight of it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:33 PM

67. Sign of the (shit) times

Bumblefuck Nation

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:09 AM

69. You are aware that we do not have

a state-controlled, state-run media and entertainment industry in this country? You are aware that studios have the right to make whatever movie they want without government interference and that we have, or should have, the right to see those movies if we so choose without that same government interference? You're aware that you're sounding just like the fuckwit pea-brained dictator who demanded it be removed under threat (and WTF was he going to "do" to us anyway, for Christ's sake?) You're aware that this chicken-shit backing down makes us look, well, weak and chickenshitty just like said fuckwit pea-brained dictator wants? And that you're playing right into it? Basically, who are you to tell studios what movies to make and Americans what movies they can and cannot see? Last time I checked, we were not a dictatorship.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #69)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:17 AM

74. I'm glad you're all for supporting the freedom of giant corporations

like Sony Pictures Entertainment, a Japanese multinational technology and media conglomerate. There are no good actors in this drama (and I'm not even referring to the bad acting of James Franco, which speaks for itself). Sony is enormous. It can eat the losses on this stupid production. And filmgoers everywhere will honestly probably not be missing a thing. Kim Jong whatever can go back to his crazy.

This is not some kind of tragedy. It's tragi-comedy, on all sides.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #74)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:25 AM

82. As long as the actors suck

or the corporations can eat the losses and you deemed this movie unworthy to be seen, I guess it's okay. Giving in to threats, bullies and black mailers works!

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Response to neverforget (Reply #82)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:34 AM

94. Yup.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #74)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:27 AM

86. I support the freedom of studios to make

whatever movie they want without government interference or interference by foreign fuckwit pea-brained dictators who think they can get their way by throwing tantrums and jumping up and down like a two-year-old. Well, guess what? The NK pea-brain has shown the world just what chickenshits we really are and that he can do just that, throw a tantrum and we'll give in to it.

It doesn't matter that the movie's subject is in poor taste and offensive. It doesn't matter that it's not a good movie or that people won't be missing much. It wouldn't matter if it were the worst movie ever made. It Just. Doesn't. Matter. Studios have the right to make the movies they want and we have the right to choose which ones we want to see, period. You don't get to make that decision for everyone else. We are not yet living in a full-fledged dictatorship.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #86)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:35 AM

95. Me too.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #86)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:40 AM

97. They had the right to make it and they did.

Then they pulled it because of controversy and threats, and because theaters didn't want to show it. (And theater chains have the right not to show anything they don't want to show.) Sony made a stupid decision to make it. What's your beef? Or do you just like to say "fuckwit peabrain" a lot?

Movies are shelved all the time.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #86)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:48 AM

118. Well said.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #74)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:48 AM

102. Free speech for Sony & Seth Rogen (but not for me and thee)

 

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Response to frazzled (Reply #74)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:25 AM

148. +1

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #69)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:25 AM

81. You must be aware that N. Korea is a Nuclear Armed nation so what 'he' might do

being how crazy he is, isn't known. And when you don't know if a lunatic with Nukes might decide to use them, maybe you shouldn't tempt fate by making a stupid movie that is probably not worth watching anyhow to taunt him with.

And you must be aware that the Government didn't shut down the movie, or tell anyone not to make it.

Obviously the morons who did, were too stupid to realize they were poking a nutcase with Nukes finally and THEY decided not to show it.

Your lecture would have some meaning if the Government had influenced any of this.

I could not care less what happens to the movie.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #81)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:01 AM

134. Yeah, North Korea isn't going to launch a nuclear attack over a movie

 

The rank and file might be utterly brainwashed, but the leadership knows doing such a thing would seal their fate.

Not that they'd have any way to deliver the weapon in the first place.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #69)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:40 AM

98. No, we just have a media infiltrated by agents of the state and run by giant corporations

 

who also run the state.

what's the difference, really.

listening to your spiel, as though our media were some world bastion of freedom, is to laugh. as if our media didn't pick and choose what to portray according to political and financial considerations every fucking day.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:18 AM

75. Agreed.

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:20 AM

77. What a relief. I thought there was going to be a spoiler in this thread.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:27 AM

85. it's not my cup of tea for sure,

 

I suppose some will find humor in it.

I find it very sophomoric, and yeah, asking for controversy. But to stifle it is wrong.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:47 AM

101. Agreed.

 

A big WTF?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:43 AM

104. Already been done.

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:13 AM

105. I'm glad I don't have to download this piece of tripe.

Just the fact that they caved shows the courage of their convictions. I saw Seth in that crappy comedy "Pineapple Express," in which he throws up when he sees a murder. Nice reaction. Tripe. Not missing a thing except crappy American agitprop.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:26 AM

109. WHOA NELLIE!

Where in my post did I state that the movie should be censored by the Government? Where in my post did I state that no one should have the freedom to make a shitty film? Where in my post did I advocate SONY Pictures' pulling the film out of release? Where in my post did I proffer sympathy for this dictator?

All I was trying to say was that this whole concept, in my opinion,(and apparently in the opinion of many many many others) was not a GOOD IDEA. Some here say that I was advocating censorship. Not at all...is it disallowed to simply posit that this was an idea which had real potential to fail from the beginning?

The nastiness of some here is just appalling -as a ten year veteran of this site, I am thoroughly disgusted with the attitudes of some here who have already managed to drive out dozens and dozens of veteran posters. If that is your plan, then you're succeeding. Congratulations.

Oh...and just one more thing: for whatever reason a few posters decided to bring up my opinions in re: the Ebola situation from a number of weeks ago. There was a deliberate misstatement of my position during that entire misadventure, and I stand by every single post I made during that time. DU Rules prevent me from stating exactly what I think these people are doing here and what I think of them personally for doing so.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #109)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:04 AM

112. Ten years for me too and I agree with you 100% ! Even the

most innocuous seeming post gets turned way off topic and made into
a nightmare "back and forth".

I think before you post now you have to analyze all the possible angles and insert disclaimers
about every conceivable complaint. Exhausting. I don't know where all the "Contrarians" came from
but I wish they would expend their energies elsewhere.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #112)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:07 AM

123. Exactly...

It's like the Monty Python skit about arguments.

I know well what their stupid game is.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #123)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:12 AM

125. "Stupid Game" What???

Do you have something against the mentally challenged?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #112)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:30 AM

150. trolls

If anyone thinks the RNC does not pay at least one person to troll this board heavily, I'm sorry but they are naive. Hell, if I ran the RNC, I would. What better way to wreak a bit of havoc with the left and Democrats ? The rest (99.999%) are unpaid, going for "the lulz".

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:55 AM

110. How true and well stated ! And, what the hell has happened to James

Franco? He used to be a serious actor - now it seems like he thinks he's
the new Jerry Lewis.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:34 AM

115. I was looking forward to it

It looked silly and fun, had actors I liked and has been a familiar plot concept in film (especially comedies) for decades.

But I tend to like a wide range of movies and prefer to make my own judgments on what works and what doesn't.

So hopefully I'll get an opportunity. This could be a good one for Sony - and a bad one for theaters - in the end. If Sony goes and does this as VOD through various outlets, and it makes them some amount of coin, it'll give them further incentive to push past the theatrical exhibition side for other films.

But it's good to see the thought police out in full force, making sure that things they think are childish and moronically conceived should never see the light of day.

Frankly, I've spent years being fans of things that the "mainstream" hates. Only to see it change generationally and watching people now having to "suffer" through it. Growing up a fan of comic books and science fiction, it's sweet revenge. Particularly from people I knew in high school that used to bully me because I liked comic books, only to now see them spending money and time on them because their kids are so into it.

Thankfully, DU generally isn't the barometer for anything, especially when it comes to entertainment.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:46 AM

117. Who greenlighted those tedious Atlas movies?

Who cares? Given the content of the emails leaked, the Sony people yanked the movie for fear of lawsuits if the floor of the theater was extra sticky.

It's a movie, you have a choice to see it or not - usually. I'm a bit weary of the fear mongering.

On to the next panic.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #117)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:10 AM

124. So you are the determiner of

What questions I AM PERMITTED TO ASK. thank you very much.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #124)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:16 AM

128. No, I did not say that.

You seem to be the determiner of what movies should or shouldn't be made, based on if you consider them stupid.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #128)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:04 PM

159. I'm not the determiner...

I'm asking who decided that this was a good idea. Look, you wanna pick a fight over nothing you go right ahead. This seems to be what you're really interested in...right? All I did was suggest that this concept for a film wasn't in the best taste and had potential international problems post facto. What's wrong with that? It DID, DIDN'T IT?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:59 AM

119. I agree..

.... this picture could have been done just as well using a faux world leader as the target. Sony stepped in the hoya and man are they paying the price.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:00 AM

120. There have been many movies & books about assassinating real-life political leaders.

 

Those leaders' respective counties never resorted to blackmail and threats of violence to stop them from being distributed.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #120)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:55 AM

142. + 10000

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:14 AM

126. It's called the first amendment

I think it's pathetic that we would kowtow to that little cretin and not show this movie.

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Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #126)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:12 AM

137. The First Amendment has nothing to do with it.

Our government hasn't told Sony to pull the movie - they have made that decision on their own. It doesn't help when people keep saying "we" have capitulated to some anonymous group, either. Unless you are a Sony executive, "we" haven't done a damn thing. They have made a business decision calculating perceived risk vs. potential profit. They made a mistake in not factoring in the potential fall out that has arisen in response to their movie. Because free speech has consequences, whether the government intervenes or not.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:24 AM

130. "No one ever went broke underestimating the tast of the American public"

attributed to H. L. Mencken

Dumb and dumber is a marketing ploy. And it works

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:37 AM

131. Good thing North Korea has no problem with violent video games

Good thing North Korea has no problem with violent video games, otherwise we'd meekly rationalize the loss of those, too.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:45 AM

132. I want to see it.

I enjoy comedies.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:07 AM

136. Frank Drebin kicks the shit out of real world leaders...



Team America kills Kim Jong Il


Hot Shots drops a bomb on Saddam Hussein



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Response to lame54 (Reply #136)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:14 AM

138. Cartman vs Saddam Hussein

 

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:17 AM

139. K&R. Well said.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:58 AM

143. It looks like it might be funny. You seem to be mad because Sony didn't call you

 

to get your opinion on the movie before it was made. If the movie makes people laugh and makes money then it has achieved it's purpose. It's one thing to say you don't like a movie, but another to say that you don't like the plot so the movie should have never been made. You want to deprive millions of people of a movie they might find funny because you don't like the sound of it. Reading your post made me cringe. It's not just puerile, but downright stupid, and moronically conceived from the beginning.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:59 AM

144. And now we have allowed a foreign government to censor our entertainment industry.

 

That's the real issue. And your OP attempts to rationalize it by complaining about the art on a qualitative basis.

Not good.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:17 AM

149. I was shocked when I first heard about this movie. In the U.S.

it is a crime to threaten the president. We could not make a film about killing a real president of this country and yet Sony felt it ok to produce a film about killing a real president of another country?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:52 PM

157. have you seen the film yet?

are you aware of the concept of comedy? Satire?

Unless and until you have seen it and how the story actually plays out onscreen, I really don't think you can judge if it is puerile, stupid and moronically conceived.

Just my opinion.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #157)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:27 PM

167. Oh Yeah...

Kubrick would have made this if he weren't dead right? The TRAILER was frigging unwatchable.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #167)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:35 PM

168. For you, sure

Plenty of others thought it was hilarious.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. There's a whole lot of people who can't stand Kubrick's films as well. And some of those trailers are frigging unwatchable. Some of the films are for people too for a whole host of reasons.

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #167)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:04 PM

170. Kubrick? Not really known for his comedies

I don't even understand that comment.

And by the way, YOU found the trailer unwatchable, which is your right. Lots of us thought it looked funny and looked forward to seeing the film. That is our right.

You don't get to decide what films the studios make, you only get to decide which ones you want to watch.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #170)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:12 PM

171. Dr. Strangelove was comedic...

but then again, your concept of comedy involves someone being hit over the head with a pan. That is your perfect right. Mine was to say that I didn't think this was or even could be funny. Is that OK with you, or do I have to agree with your assessment of humor?

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:54 AM

165. In the Washington Post today...

It was reported that the State Department gave its approval to Sony to go forward with
the movie.

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