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Police turn their backs on #MayorDeBlasio at Cops funeralPolice publicly disrespecting the Mayor should be an eye opener to every American. Its so disturbing. Imagine how they treat young black men and boys? Bullying the Mayor while the world watches? Young black men and boys dont stand a chance on the streets. God help this country! Disrespecting the Mayor isnt about honor to fallen officers, its about racist anger. Lets keep it real! Officers who turned their backs to the Mayor are ANGRY with him because they want to kill black people with impunity and the Mayor isnt playing along.
Police making a spectacle of themselves at a slain officers funeral as he is laid to rest is so disrespectful to the family. Those officers should have stayed at home. Officer Ramos family is grieving & these dumb ass police are showing their natural ass. Please dont be fooled, the black officers turning their backs to the Mayor are going along to get along. If police are treating the Mayor this way, imagine how theyll be treated on the job? This is about survival with them.
When those who enforce the law have no respect for the law & no respect for authority, were headed for disaster. This is why the protests will continue until black people can live. I understand too well laws cant make racist police stop the hate but laws sure can stop police from killing our unarmed kids. Police reform now!
http://3chicspolitico.com/2014/12/27/police-turn-their-backs-on-mayordeblasio-at-cops-funeral/
True colors, The NYPD showed them today. They showed their racist hate and disrespected not only the Mayor, who has an AA wife and children, Garner himself and the other black men that died unarmed a the hands of cops. Most importantly, they disrespected their fallen officers and their families. After all neither officer was white, so who the hell needs to respect them. The NYPD should be ashamed, yet they are not.
Cha
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I really want people to remember that Bill de Blasio was blamed for police deaths by virtue of being a responsible parent to a black son.
5:13 PM - 20 Dec 2014 1,862 Retweets 1,369 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/22/a-tweet-or-two-195/
"Please dont be fooled, the black officers turning their backs to the Mayor are going along to get along. If police are treating the Mayor this way, imagine how theyll be treated on the job? This is about survival with them."
I wondered about the Black Officers turning their backs.. That's got to be hard for them. This is a nightmare.. Imagine being Black in NYC and feeling like these NYPD think they have a license to kill if they feel like it and the Mayor or anyone else can't do anything about it.
And, the disrespect they showed the families of Raphael Ramos and Wenjian Liu was despicable.
Really well done from 3chicspolitico and you, she.. thank you.
madville
(7,448 posts)I've worked around thousands of different cops in my profession, some of the most blatant anti-black racists I have ever met were black police officers.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Response to madville (Reply #4)
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sheshe2
(86,903 posts)Yes, if black officers are doing this from fear of how they too will be treated by their fellow officers says it all. They fear their back will not be taken in a critical situation. That says it all right there.
That makes it a done deal for me. They are ugly bullies that have no respect for authority, the law or people in general. They can't even give their fallen comrades the respect that they deserve at there funerals. Yet, Raphael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were not white either.
My heart breaks with this despicable act. Shame on them all.
Tears Cha.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)don't get the same excuse though, right?
You ever see the movie Serpico? It's a true story. He almost paid with his life.
We're all brave here on our keyboards, but when you are cornered and need someone to back you up? Riiighht. Every DUer here is a hero who would do the right thing.
Dustlawyer
(10,515 posts)blue line. Turning in a fellow officer or not covering for their criminal behavior can result in loss of job, career, and/or life. It is not a decision to make lightly.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Are you arguing that the vast majority of cops are bad?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)doing whatever they have to to appease the really dangerous bullies in their midst. It doesn't take a majority to turn an organization bad; it only takes a core of organized thugs to do that.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)In many instances they might even believe they are right. But they are sadly mistaken.
Dustlawyer
(10,515 posts)Take that how you wish.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Which would make the majority bad cops.
If they have to worry about nobody showing up for backup, then they believe most of their cohorts are bad.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)then they wouldn't have to worry about getting backup from bad cops. Because the bad cops would be gone.
Jeff Murdoch
(168 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)irregardless of who is who.. I live amongst those kind of people.
Cha
(304,374 posts)BumRushDaShow
(140,566 posts)sheshe2
(86,903 posts)I love that picture BRDS. Diversity.
madokie
(51,076 posts)those are not fake smiles, thats the real deal
napkinz
(17,199 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)This should be America.
And hopefully will be in the future...
napkinz
(17,199 posts)sadly, in some it brings out the worst
"If you can look at that picture and only feel hate, you might be a racist."
Sweeney
(505 posts)These people have police privileges. They can do with impunity acts that would put any citizen in prison. And Yet, in spite of having this privilege they also demand their equal civil rights, and this means we are unequal to these police, or to any such privileged people. They have our rights. We only have our rights. They have in addition to our rights, special privileges. How are we supposed to have the equality upon which democracy depends while suffering these privileged people among us?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Sweeney
(505 posts)2naSalit
(91,888 posts)What we are seeing here could be partially explained by the Milgram Experiments... not just the hypotheses addressed but the residual/peripheral evidence regarding human nature under given stresses, like authority and peer pressure.
As with the experiments' getting out of control, so it is in real life as we now see taking place all over the nation/world every day.
(There are too many ref. links to post here so I'll just put up the Google results link)
https://www.google.com/search?q=milgram+experiment&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Sweeney
(505 posts)And the thought that all authority was right, and beyond reconsideration. I got this a lot from my German grand mother, and it never seemed strange that the Holocaust could have happened were everyone was like her. The post war generation was more inclined to question authority. But I question all privilege based upon the authority of the government which is itself a privilege.
The history of religion preceding and following the English revolution proved that churches and denominations needed protection from other sects when in control of the government. The result is that now the churches can have every involvement in government, and can defy those laws that contradict their beliefs. Property privilege sets an impossible barrier to the democracy of the people, but it is only one way. Like the churches, those with wealth can still affect the course of government while government has no practical control of them.
People with privilege have rights as well, but people without privilege have only their rights. What did those with privilege do to deserve this favorable inequality?
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)be respected. Respect has to be earned, not demanded.
Cha
(304,374 posts)Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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NYPD demanded #BlackLivesMatter protesters suspend their protests; yet they politicize a funeral.
Shameful.
7:05 AM - 27 Dec 2014
Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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That moment a selfish group of cops make a funeral all about themselves by turning their backs on Mayor de Blasio.
6:58 AM - 27 Dec 2014 441 Retweets 250 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/27/photo-of-the-year-july-august/
Well said, RKP
sheshe2
(86,903 posts)You got it Cha.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The racists demand we all give up our rights!
While they have free will to do any damned thing they want of course!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)just deplorable!
Blaming the president, the mayor, and the demonstrations. Saying they all have blood on their hands. Turning their backs at a funeral.
Is there any line they won't cross?
They won't cross the Blue Line, but that's about the ONLY one, sadly.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)good one sheshe!
LiberalArkie
(16,257 posts)Stainless
(719 posts)Because they're gutless bullies who wallow in hypocrisy.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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NYPD demanded #BlackLivesMatter protesters suspend their protests; yet they politicize a funeral.
Shameful.
7:05 AM - 27 Dec 2014
napkinz
(17,199 posts)nt
Cha
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By turning their backs to @BilldeBlasio the #NYPD is confirming everything we know to be true about that gang. #unbelievable
7:04 AM - 27 Dec 2014 70 Retweets 33 favorites
Exactly.
sheshe2
(86,903 posts)I have lost all respect for them with there total contempt of black lives. Your post showing them sporting I can Breathe T Shirts says it all. They choked the life out of a black man and seem to find it amusing. No souls, no honor and no respect. They are hanging their lily white racist asses in the air for the world to see. I gotta say America, shame on us.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)there will be the likes of Rudy and Pataki blaming the mayor, the president, the "Black Lives" demonstrations ... and no one will confront them about the cops' behavior during the funeral
Ramses
(721 posts)I cant imagine how black men feel in NY right now. I would think it would be like a 24/7 manhunt, knowing you could be gunned down and murdered at any time by a violent racist asshole who happens to have a badge and posse to back him up.
Im suprised at this point there isnt guerrilla tactics as there are many disenfranchised black men who have been imprisoned and have little left to lose. I hope it doesnt come to that
BumRushDaShow
(140,566 posts)most notably when the person in power is black (David Dinkins) or is apparently married to one (Bill de Blasio).
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
Published: September 17, 1992
Thousands of off-duty police officers thronged around City Hall yesterday, swarming through police barricades to rally on the steps of the hall and blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge for nearly an hour in the most unruly and angry police demonstration in recent memory.
The 300 uniformed officers who were supposed to control the crowd did little or nothing to stop the protesters from jumping barricades, tramping on automobiles, mobbing the steps of City Hall or taking over the bridge. In some cases, the on-duty officers encouraged the protesters.
While the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association had called the rally to protest Mayor David N. Dinkins's proposal to create an independent civilian agency that would look into police misconduct, the huge turnout -- estimated by the Police Department at 10,000 protesters -- and the harsh emotional pitch reflected widespread anger among rank-and-file officers toward the Mayor for his handling of riots against the police in Washington Heights last July, his refusal to give them semiautomatic weapons and his appointment of an outside panel to investigate corruption.
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During most of that time, there were no uniformed officers on the bridge, though four officers on scooters arrived shortly after noon. They did virtually nothing to control the crowd. At one point, a New York Times photographer who was taking pictures was surrounded by demonstrators, punched in the back and shoved. A police lieutenant told the photographer, Keith Meyers, that he should leave the bridge. "I can't protect you up here," the officer said. A New York Times reporter, Alan Finder, was also kicked in the stomach.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/17/nyregion/officers-rally-and-dinkins-is-their-target.html
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)Cops used to see themselves as part of the community, but now they seem to view themselves as omnipotent beings with power of life and death and answerable to no one.
How the fuck did we ever get to this kind of dystopia?
Sweeney
(505 posts)this is a long story, but the short version is that capitalism fails, and as it fails is spreads poverty and poverty breeds immorality and mutual contempt until the point where cops feel they only have the alternative of violence to maintain social order. This American nation made of many states thing with special privileges and entrenched inequality in need of defense and rights forever under attack thing- is not working out. Simple?
Indydem
(2,642 posts)I keep hearing how great the economy, Dow, and unemployment is.
Can't have it both ways.
Sweeney
(505 posts)Here the economy is only seen as an abstraction. The rich are good. The poor are bad; but the economy exists as a thing in itself.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Their level of arrogance and stupidity is a danger to society. The fact that they would dishonor two of their own that way, should be an alarm call to everyone that is concerned about police brutality.
They really don't give two shits about the communities they serve. Or their own it seems.
I know it is not that way in every PD across America, just seems the ones that have entrenched racist at the top of the food chain.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)No better than a gang
senz
(11,945 posts)To include a test for racism in the psychological screening given to police recruits.
This is a VERY reasonable request. And long overdue.
sheshe2
(86,903 posts)Welcome to DU!
senz
(11,945 posts)This needs to stop!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I really don't know of one that could be used for this purpose. What might work instead, though, is some sort of authoritarianism scale. There are a number of those around, including one by Bob Altemeyer. Also, maybe a hostility scale like the Buss Durkee.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)positive", or the majority who let them act and cover for them?
When the person is wearing a hood, at least you know who your enemy is. The others are far more dangerous, the ones who make it all possible.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)A whole police dept full of rogue cops. Judge, jury and executioners all!
Where are the good cops? I see not one standing up against the thugs in control of the NYC PD.
Not one!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)lots of New Yorkers SUPPORT the police and their antics and shameful behavior (turning backs during funeral, exploiting tragedy to try to silence the demonstrations for justice, etc.)
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But we can't forget the history of NYC. There were race riots dating back to the Civil War.
The lines were drawn long ago for some, and progressive leaders have only occasionally been able to overcome it.
For all we know, the police have families that go back to that era, hold the same grudges. I can't speak with knowledge of the politics of NYC and how complex it must be.
It's an old city, with ways that pre-dates the founding of the United States. With old money, entrenched power, and a great influence on 'Main Street' by virtue of it being the home of Wall Street. It's a world apart from most of our lives.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)assholes.
amb123
(1,595 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)African-American police officers here.
"Please dont be fooled, the black officers turning their backs to the Mayor are going along to get along. If police are treating the Mayor this way, imagine how theyll be treated on the job? This is about survival with them."
These statements are also ignoring that a lot of protested killings by cops involve African-American officers or are directly supervised and approved by African-American officers (such as the Eric Garner killing).
indivisibleman
(482 posts)When I saw this it made me shudder because anyone who knows anything about authority knows that this means that the chain of command is seriously broken.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Shame on them. Acting like spoiled teenagers, but what they convey with this little stunt is something evil and unholy. They should be fired die insubordination. We really don't need them on the streets with their weapons, racism and sense of entitlement.