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Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:16 PM

He has NOTHING to apologize for, NO ONE to apologize to ... this is a good man




Andray @AndrayDomise
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I really want people to remember that Bill de Blasio was blamed for police deaths by virtue of being a responsible parent to a black son.
5:13 PM - 20 Dec 2014 1,862 Retweets 1,369 favorites

https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/546503765302722560

thanks to Cha for sharing above tweet
see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026002280

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Reply He has NOTHING to apologize for, NO ONE to apologize to ... this is a good man (Original post)
napkinz Dec 2014 OP
spanone Dec 2014 #1
elleng Dec 2014 #2
randys1 Dec 2014 #3
napkinz Dec 2014 #80
Cha Dec 2014 #4
napkinz Dec 2014 #101
Cha Dec 2014 #117
shenmue Dec 2014 #5
Rex Dec 2014 #6
napkinz Dec 2014 #100
Rex Dec 2014 #102
napkinz Dec 2014 #104
Rex Dec 2014 #106
napkinz Dec 2014 #109
Cha Dec 2014 #7
madokie Dec 2014 #8
Cha Dec 2014 #10
madokie Dec 2014 #13
Cha Dec 2014 #18
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #50
napkinz Dec 2014 #86
napkinz Dec 2014 #135
hrmjustin Dec 2014 #9
Cha Dec 2014 #11
hrmjustin Dec 2014 #14
Cha Dec 2014 #20
cwydro Dec 2014 #12
Cha Dec 2014 #21
cwydro Dec 2014 #54
Cha Dec 2014 #15
napkinz Dec 2014 #130
Cha Dec 2014 #131
napkinz Dec 2014 #141
Skittles Dec 2014 #16
Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2014 #17
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #19
napkinz Dec 2014 #107
blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #22
WillyT Dec 2014 #23
Cha Dec 2014 #24
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #51
napkinz Dec 2014 #87
vankuria Dec 2014 #122
Cha Dec 2014 #123
napkinz Dec 2014 #129
FailureToCommunicate Dec 2014 #25
Kalidurga Dec 2014 #26
Cha Dec 2014 #27
Phlem Dec 2014 #28
mopinko Dec 2014 #111
Phlem Dec 2014 #112
mopinko Dec 2014 #113
Post removed Dec 2014 #29
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #30
Indydem Dec 2014 #34
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #82
napkinz Dec 2014 #127
mahina Dec 2014 #83
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #84
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geek tragedy Dec 2014 #96
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Rex Dec 2014 #105
JTFrog Dec 2014 #92
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #99
Rex Dec 2014 #103
dogman Dec 2014 #31
Phlem Dec 2014 #32
Indydem Dec 2014 #33
Phlem Dec 2014 #35
Indydem Dec 2014 #38
Phlem Dec 2014 #41
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #56
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #78
geek tragedy Dec 2014 #79
napkinz Dec 2014 #132
MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #53
Cha Dec 2014 #36
Indydem Dec 2014 #37
Phlem Dec 2014 #39
dogman Dec 2014 #43
Cha Dec 2014 #45
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Cha Dec 2014 #46
lovemydog Dec 2014 #119
Cha Dec 2014 #120
napkinz Dec 2014 #115
lovemydog Dec 2014 #118
napkinz Dec 2014 #124
Cha Dec 2014 #121
lovemydog Dec 2014 #40
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #75
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Cha Dec 2014 #49
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #52
napkinz Dec 2014 #85
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JDDavis Dec 2014 #57
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #63
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Enthusiast Dec 2014 #65
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Enthusiast Dec 2014 #76
KMOD Dec 2014 #74
napkinz Dec 2014 #137
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napkinz Dec 2014 #140
juxtaposed Dec 2014 #58
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Cha Dec 2014 #72
Cha Dec 2014 #73
Cha Dec 2014 #71
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #77
Cha Dec 2014 #81
Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #138
dawg Dec 2014 #89
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #90
daleanime Dec 2014 #93
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NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #98
smokey nj Dec 2014 #116
Cha Dec 2014 #134
gwheezie Dec 2014 #95
stage left Dec 2014 #114
napkinz Dec 2014 #133
Hutzpa Dec 2014 #125
napkinz Dec 2014 #136
Hutzpa Dec 2014 #126
Denis 11 Dec 2014 #128

Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:17 PM

1. amen....

k&r...

what mayor deBlasio said about eric garner's homicide had NOTHING to do with

a deranged man killing two police officers.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:17 PM

2. YES!

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:20 PM

3. We have his back, well some of us do anyway.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:23 AM

80. the problem is there is an anti-Mayor de Blasio campaign; their crowd is out in full force

And it's gone unanswered ... and that has to change.

Where is our campaign to show we have the Mayor's back! It has to start now!

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:22 PM

4. Excellent thoughts, napkinz.. this needs to be out there Front and Center.

Thank you, Mahalo, Muchas Gracias, etc etc!

Beautiful photo of Mayor de Blasio and his son

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:41 PM

101. the pic in my OP brings to mind this cartoon (a fact of life these officers don't understand)

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Response to napkinz (Reply #101)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:24 PM

117. ..

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:31 PM

5. Mayor DeBlasio seems to be pretty cool

I like him. I grew up in New York and I would like to move back someday. Hopefully while he's still in office.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:35 PM

6. Remembered and stored. Blamed for the death of two cops, because he has a black son.

 

The racist culture in PDs needs to be wiped out ASAP.

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Response to Rex (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:38 PM

100. what these racist cops don't understand ...

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Response to napkinz (Reply #100)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:45 PM

102. I'm still enraged over the death of Martin. Justice weeps in 2014.

 

People expect others to 'get over it'...nope, not going to happen. Not on my watch.

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Response to Rex (Reply #102)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:52 PM

104. and the police and the right-wing are EXPLOITING the tragic murders of the two NYPD officers to

try to SILENCE/QUELL the "Black Lives Matter" movement in this country.

The demonstrations MUST go on.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #104)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:53 PM

106. I expect them to not only go on, but to get bigger and louder. nt

 

nt

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Response to Rex (Reply #106)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:00 PM

109. "get bigger and louder" ... as they should

the question is, how will the police RESPOND to bigger and louder?

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:39 PM

7. Mayor de Blasio and his beautiful family..

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:42 PM

8. A good man

beautiful family

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Response to madokie (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:46 PM

10. Yes, and the NYPD are not going to get him ousted.

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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:50 PM

13. So far all they've done is show how petty they are

not to mention insubordinate
the mayor won by a real big margin. Most new yorkers voted for him and I'd say most of them still like him just fine, cops be damned

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Response to madokie (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:52 PM

18. Precisely, madokie. Petty and lethal prepubescent playground bullies.

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:12 AM

50. +1 an entire shit load.

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:56 AM

86. thank you for sharing, Cha

great pic

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:34 AM

135. another great pic

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:45 PM

9. Remember that Rudy's people were pissed that Joe Lhota didn't win.

 

They thought they were coming back into power but they believe by turning de Blasio into Dinkins they can get back into city hall. And the NY Post, NYPD, PBA, FOXNEWS, and others will do what they have to to tear Bill down.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:47 PM

11. right.. but, things can change and hopefully they will soon in a New York Second!

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:50 PM

14. There has been no polling on de Blasio but he likely took a hit, but i doubt it will last.

 

Bloomberg went down to 24 percent approval in his first term and won in a landslide.

de Blasio knows how to fight back so he will when the funerals are over but he will try to make peace first.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:54 PM

20. This.. >>>>>>>..

"de Blasio knows how to fight back so he will when the funerals are over but he will try to make peace first."

Mahalo hrmjustin

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:48 PM

12. I think he can handle

the heat (pun intended).

He is the perfect person to be mayor at this time.

But, it won't be easy for him. I hope Bratton works with him.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:55 PM

21. Well said, cwydro

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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:21 AM

54. Thank you Cha. nt

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:50 PM

15. It's 'Protect and Serve', NYPD, not 'Kill and Subvert'

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
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First they kill Eric Garner, now they want a democratically elected mayor ousted.

It's 'Protect and Serve', NYPD, not 'Kill and Subvert'.

3:59 PM - 27 Dec 2014 51 Retweets 30 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/27/2014-hopefruits-most-memorable-moments/

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:28 PM

130. oh, they serve and protect ...


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Response to napkinz (Reply #130)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:16 AM

131. Excellent.. Exactly, napkinz~

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Response to Cha (Reply #131)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:14 PM

141. thanks to DeSwiss

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:52 PM

16. that is EXACTLY what it is

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:52 PM

17. For the benefit of us out on the left coast........

could you folks in NYC tell us how the local citizenry feels about all this and particularly the police turning their backs on the mayor. Thanks.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:53 PM

19. Some days you can only cry for the stupid in people napkinz.



Love that picture, dad hugs his sweet son.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:56 PM

107. the picture of the mayor and his son SO reminds me of this cartoon (from when Trayvon Martin died)



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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:00 PM

22. Shame on those cops. Shame, shame, shame.

 

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:02 PM

23. Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

 


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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:15 PM

24. The NYPD Showed NO Respect for Authority Today..

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:15 AM

51. Precisely.

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:58 AM

87. that graphic hits the nail on the head!

their antics are simply disgraceful

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:12 PM

122. And no respect for the deceased

and his family. How dare they deflect attention from funeral services and make this about them? Whatever arguments they have with the mayor, they showed extremely poor judgment to use the funeral services to make a political statement. Shame on them!

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Response to vankuria (Reply #122)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:20 PM

123. Exactly, vankuria.

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Response to vankuria (Reply #122)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:34 PM

129. and shame on those supporting their deplorable behavior

those on the right backing these antics should be condemned as well

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:34 PM

25. I've heard this has as much to do with $$ (bitter contract talks Mayor de Blasio inherited) as

with racism and 1st amendment protest rights.

Anyone know about that as a reason for the cops to turn their backs?

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:42 PM

26. The NYPD has a lot to apologize for though

We can start with their murderous ways and work our way down to the complete lack of respect for the communities they police even though it is all part of the same issue.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:02 PM

27. Exactly, Kalidurga.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:05 PM

28. Wow.

The guys with the guns need our sympathy? My 1'st run in with a cop convinced me 100% they are out of control ego maniacs. The bullies in school, now have a legitimate career path. I'm not saying there are all like that because there have been a couple of cool ones, but these shit heads make it bad for the rest of them.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:06 PM

111. learned at my daddy's knee.

older sister had a bf that dad couldnt stand. she eventually met someone else. he went on to become a cop. this was 50 years ago.
dad said- he just wanted that gun. and to push people around.
thought that way about cops ever since. have yet to have an experience to the contrary. and that includes many times when my white privilege, and back in the day my girlish good looks, gave me a free pass.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #111)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:25 PM

112. Your dad

is a very smart man and sounds like a great dad. I hope I can be like that for my little girl.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #112)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:30 PM

113. he passed long ago. i am old.

he was a good many in many ways, but had the irish disease.
it took my almost 60 years to really appreciate him, and what he did give me.
i hope my kids get that old.

i am sure your little girl will be fine, tho. just remember to treat her mother as you would want her treated.
good luck.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:13 PM

30. Did you mean to post those rightwing taking points here

 

instead of at that other website.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:23 PM

34. Ah ha ha ha

 

Man if I had a nickel.

So it's "right-wing" to support the police, the unionization of the police, and weeding out bad cops from all the good cops and not using broad brushes?

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Response to Indydem (Reply #34)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:22 AM

82. The cops hate deblasio because his family is black and he's seen as too sympathetic

 

towards "those" people.

NYC cops think every police shooting is justified--especially if the victim is black.

They view themselves as above the law itself.

They need to be taken down a few pegs.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #82)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:35 PM

127. ...

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:12 AM

83. 2 recent hidden posts, most frequently posting in History of Feminism, and

has a sig line about the right to bear arms.

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Response to mahina (Reply #83)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:29 AM

84. Has called for Obama to be prosecuted, accused Obama of destroying

 

social security, etc.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #84)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:06 AM

88. Absolutely not true.

 

I have never made either of those accusations. Stop with the lies.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #88)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:49 PM

96. First link is where you say he will need to be prosecuted because

 

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Response to Indydem (Reply #88)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:51 PM

97. Second link is where you call him "the man who destroyed social security."

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2030437

I would tell you to take what's left of your credibility and retreat, but too late for that.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #97)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:52 PM

105. *CRICKETS*

 

But but but they are just misunderstood.

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Response to mahina (Reply #83)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:11 AM

92. That poster is NOT a History of Feminism poster.

 

2 posts in the last 90 days. One of the awesome contributions?: "FYI 4Chan = Anonymous". Trust me, I don't think that poster was posting there in good faith.



But I'm more interested in your motive to tie this poster to a feminist group on DU: "most frequently posting in History of Feminism". Care to explain exactly why you would do this or why you would consider a frequent poster there an issue to begin with?




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Response to JTFrog (Reply #92)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:53 PM

99. I took it to mean the person was trolling HoF.

 

Which has been known to happen.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:48 PM

103. Of course not, it is the only way they can

 

stir shit on this site and get away with it. It is almost comical watching 'control freaks' or whatever they are - implode over the last few months.

I think they are coming unraveled.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:14 PM

31. What lack of support?

Did he cut their pay or dictate new working conditions?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:14 PM

32. Lack of support? AYFKM!?

Your talking about cops with a union that guarantees pension, no jail time for officers, and relocation in worst case scenarios?

Shit I wish my union could do that when I kill somebody, wait a minute there is no union I can apply too.

WTF?

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Response to Phlem (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:21 PM

33. Did deBlasio give them that union?

 

No he did not. The police banded together and organized it.

I have no idea how in the world the DEMOCRATICunderground is now a place where unions get shit on and police officers are painted with the widest brush of corruption that is usually reserved for Wall Street.

DeBlasio is a screw up. His statement after the cops in the Garner killing weren't indicted is so mealy mouthed and parsed as to be disgusting. He could have condemned the actions of the officers and praised the NYPD as a whole and he failed to even try to be anything but condemning.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #33)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:25 PM

35. "No he did not. The police banded together and organized it."

Further proving my point.

I think you need to take a nap and some critical thinking classes.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:32 PM

38. So what is your point exactly?

 

That the "been the mayor for 5 minutes" mayor doesn't need to support the police because they have each other and their union?

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Response to Indydem (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:37 PM

41. That the "been the mayor for 5 minutes"

5 minutes is a small amount if time to destroy or shore up anything.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:27 AM

56. The Mayor is the ultimate civilian authority over the police.

The office of Mayor is a reflection of the will of the electorate. What the police (employees) did in their demonstration was show their contempt for the will of the people, the democratically elected civil authority.

It's all right wing bullshit anyway. The police know full well the Mayor's words didn't cause a fucking problem. They are just being led around by the nose by the massively powerful right wing forces that exist in this nation. Someday these same police will be very sorry for contributing to this bullshit. I hope they remember back to what the nation used to be like before the Fascists took over.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:44 AM

78. DeBlasio is not a badge sniffer who thinks it's okay for cops to kill black men willy nilly.

 

This causes those rightwing authoritarian assholes to throw temper tantrums. Their apologists follow suit.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:46 AM

79. Still mad that Joe Lhota didn't pull it out?

 

At least you've dropped the extreme left winger persona you had maintained, in favor of this copologism.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:18 AM

132. Joe Lhota ... had to look that one up

figures (one of Rudy's people)

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Response to Indydem (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:19 AM

53. What you appear to miss re: who gave them that union...

Many poor and honest and brave persons did this. They who labored, most coming here to build America, some forcibly brought hereÖ many to their own demiseÖ all for fair labor standards "gave" them that union. It's besides the point of their turning their backs on this mayor and demanding he step down.

Civil servants are not meant to be anything else, certainly what you have indicated in this instance.

Unions are not the issue hereÖ It's the blatant disregard for how under law, THE law is to serve, not be act above the rule of order and disregard for the law.

DeBlasio didn't screw up. You just didn't dig what he had to say.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:26 PM

36. Oh? So PLEASE Enlighten Us to what exactly is NYPD's "Problem" with Mayor de Blasio?

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Response to Cha (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:29 PM

37. Read his statement after the Garner GJ

 

Find one word in the entire statement that praises the NYPD.

Find one word that isn't a blanket condemnation of thousands of police who had nothing to do with Garner's murder.

Find one word that takes responsibility for the fact it's deBlasio's policies that have cops out arresting people for selling "untaxed cigarettes."

Show me.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:34 PM

39. Doubling down.

Praises the NYPD!? Have you seen their union? You want praise on top of that!?

Let's see, the last time on national media that someone was caught selling "untaxed cigarettes." he was killed,....by the cops.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:42 PM

43. Took the challenge.

I read the statement and fail to recognize anything you wrote in that statement. It called for recognition and resolution of a serious problem. The only implication of thousands of police is the obvious though unstated fact that they need to follow the advice given to the Ferguson protesters by the police. Be aware of and step away from those who would do wrong.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:48 PM

45. Selling cigs isn't an excuse for a cop to kill someone. The police want others to respect their

authority but they act like prepubescent bullies at the funeral for Raphael Ramos and Wenjian Liu. Disrespecting them by politicizing their funeral. They show no respect but want everyone to bow down to them.

Mayor De Blasio told the truth.. the NYPD can't handle the truth.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:55 PM

48. The statement is below

http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/540-14/statement-mayor-bill-de-blasio#/0

What part of it is incorrect?

The Garner case isn't about loose cigarettes. The statement doesn't praise the NYPD because it's about police reform, which is long overdue, better police-community relations, also long overdue, and peaceful protest in light of the Grand Jury decision. In part, it is designed to show empathy for the family and curb the urge for violence bubbling in some people. Not exactly a time to praise a police force that "trained" two police officers to kill an unarmed innocent man in the Pink Houses and another guy to use a discredited technique in restraining a suspect who may have committed a misdemeanor.

I take offense at your personal attack on the Mayor, a Progressive Democrat, one of us and one of the most pro-Union people in this town. It smacks of the kind of crass opportunism embodied by Patrick Lynch and his conservative, thin blue line brigade. It is hard to support a union brother when he's threatening you over the right to kill suspects of color. That's why many of us have mixed emotions about the police and their role in the community.

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Response to Depaysement (Reply #48)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:36 AM

62. I'm with you.

No one is more pro labor than me.

To rein in the injustice we must be allowed an indictment of officers that clearly appear to be guilty. You can't continue to ignore this shit. Look at the number of cases nation wide. This is ridiculous.

Are we gonna be a Fascist nation? Are we? Cops must be accountable.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:25 AM

55. DISRESPECT!

From my post

Police publicly disrespecting the Mayor should be an eye opener to every American. Itís so disturbing. Imagine how they treat young black men and boys? Bullying the Mayor while the world watches? Young black men and boys donít stand a chance on the streets. God help this country! Disrespecting the Mayor isnít about honor to fallen officers, itís about racist anger. Lets keep it real! Officers who turned their backs to the Mayor are ANGRY with him because they want to kill black people with impunity and the Mayor isnít playing along.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026011283

So many are using blankets here. I keep hearing that. Bull effing s**t

You said?

Find one word that takes responsibility for the fact it's deBlasio's policies that have cops out arresting people for selling "untaxed cigarettes."
So now Mayor DeBlasio is a racist that calls for police to strangle black men for selling cigarettes?
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WTF!

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:30 AM

59. The NYC police deserve faint praise.

Either we have justice for all or we don't have real justice.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #59)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:01 PM

110. I think you know the answer to that one.

 

We don't have (and haven't had for a long time now) real justice in America.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:31 AM

60. What other profession expects such unwavering, self-abasing worship from

 

the public's representatives, even at moments when they've earned criticism? Bankers, maybe... but that's about it.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:17 AM

69. did you buddies at the Krispy Kream tell you that?

I'm sick of this cop-apologist nonsense

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Response to Indydem (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:45 AM

91. Rand

Rand? Rand Paul? Is that you? How could the rest of us miss what you so brilliantly pointed out. It was the policies of Mayor deBlasio - the high taxes on cigarettes that caused the death of Mr. Garner! (sarcasm)

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Response to Bobcat (Reply #91)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:00 PM

108. IKR!?

 

The desperation to defend authority at all costs sure makes some look foolish on a progressive site.

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Response to Cha (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:42 PM

42. They demonstrated at that funeral that they believe

they are above the law. Above the chain of command. Above protocol at funerals. And above humbly honoring someone's memory at a funeral.

Fuck them all.

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #42)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:49 PM

46. Precisely lovemydog.. :(

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Response to Cha (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:05 PM

119. Thanks Cha.

I feel bad about what I said earlier, 'fuck them all.' I don't mean that. It was in a fit of anger. I pray for decreasing of tension. And for respect toward all in New York City. I hope you enjoy a great evening. Mahalo.

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #119)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:08 PM

120. Yeah, I know.. not all. Just the ones who are perpetrating a lie.

Mahalo You too.

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #42)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:47 PM

115. and they wonder why they "get no respect"

as another member posted, "you have to earn respect; you can't enforce it"

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Response to napkinz (Reply #115)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:03 PM

118. Precisely, napkinz.

Respect is earned. I hope you enjoy a good evening. I hope these tensions will decrease. We're all brothers and sisters on this planet.

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #118)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:03 PM

124. I too hope the tensions will decrease but I wonder how the police will respond

when the demonstrations return. This movement is not going to be quelled. Voices for justice will not be silenced.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #115)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:09 PM

121. Reminds of that quote.. "The beatings will continue until moral improves".. :(

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:37 PM

40. Sign me up for also being the root of this problem.

The original poster is the root of this problem? Then I must be too.

I support the mayor of New York City. Those police were disrespectful toward the victim of the crime and toward the people who pay their salaries to protect and serve them. They should not throw pissant hissy fits at funerals. If I were the mayor I'd fire all their sorry asses and get police who can respect the public.

Lovemydog is also the root of this problem!

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Response to lovemydog (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:49 AM

75. +1 an entire shit load.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:54 PM

47. De Blasio did not turn his back to the NYPD, the NYPD turned their back to him, literally. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:06 AM

49. Well said, SunSeeker.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:18 AM

52. I don't see how a "Dem" could feel your way.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:43 AM

85. thanks for the laugh

you're funny ... funny how?

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:46 PM

44. K & R

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:29 AM

57. The problem in NYC isn't their mayor

 

He didn't get away with murder, or come to the defense of someone who did.

Thousands of police who think killing a citizen for selling cigarettes illegally is fine police work, those people are a problem.

I'm waiting for police to speak up about that despicable murder...I'm not seeing many people on the police force doing that.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:38 AM

63. I'm with you.

It was a piss poor piece of police work.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #63)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:51 AM

64. Yes, and I don't think we should ignore the racial components and

 

and dynamics here.

As in Ferguson, and other locations, what seems to piss off police is their being confronted with that unbalanced element of police mistreatment of people from minorities.

We expect all our public servants to act like adults. Today, a large element of the NYPD didn't act like adults.

By contrast he mayor of NYC has always acted as a responsible and respectful adult with regard to these issues. His public remarks at the funeral today bear that out as well. Police, not so much.

Then you have Giuliani flame-baiting over race, and lying about what Obama has been saying since Ferguson, with free air time all Giuliani wants on Faux Noose, cheered on by the racist regulars which is all the Fear News station has to sell their viewers.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #64)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:58 AM

65. Is Giuliani on the Fox "News" payroll? I believe he might be.

It's all about race. But not really. The racism is just a tool. A means to an end. A way to further the slow motion coop. Looks like things are ready to speed up. This looks like something right out of the Nazi playbook. Since the 2008 election Faux and the rest have been fanning the flames of racism.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #65)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:04 AM

66. Yes, at least since 2008, or even back to Reagan and

 

"welfare queens in Cadillacs", your memory goes back that far, (perhaps you are younger than me).

Faux Noose has been fanning those flames for many years, at least to Obama's first campaign and Reverend Wright.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #66)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:09 AM

67. I'm 62.

I remember all those Reagan assertions. The idiots sucked that right up. This population is so gullible. Reagan was the perfect president for their goals. An actor.

But the racist angle is being ramped up. This much is clear.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #67)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:16 AM

68. We are of the same generation then,

 

But the racist angle is being ramped up


Well, we didn't have mobile phone video of a policeman strangling an unarmed black man to death back in Reagan's days, although, I'm pretty sure, there were murders of unarmed minority folks by police back then as well.

We didn't have Faux Noose back then in Reagan's days either, or Rudy, or all the other Republican race-baiters on TV 24/7/365

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #68)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:52 AM

76. You are correct, of course.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #57)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:27 AM

74. me too, JD

 

very few have spoke up.

The display today, where they turned their backs on the mayor, was distressing.

Opening admitting that they just don't get it, and just don't care.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:11 PM

137. "Thousands of police who think killing a citizen for selling cigarettes illegally is fine police"

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Response to napkinz (Reply #137)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:03 PM

139. Great post! Thanks, Chris Rock. n/t

 

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #139)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:11 PM

140. thought you'd like it

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:29 AM

58. we do not have a lot of people like him a round at this time

 

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #58)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:34 AM

61. some one should grab the HP post b/c 99% of the comments are positive his way. and h/p is center

 

right if not a little more right.... But NYPD is getting the shit kick out of them on Huffington.....

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #61)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:20 AM

70. Here's the link to Huffington Post's article and comments:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/27/nypd-police-turn-backs-on-mayor-deblasio_n_6383936.html

Yes, about 99% of the comments are pro DeBlasio and from folks disgusted with police actions today.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #70)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:11 AM

72. Mahalo JDDavis.

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Response to JDDavis (Reply #70)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:16 AM

73. A sample.. what we've been saying around here.. All across the country and it goes on and on..

Shane Shepherd ∑ Top Commenter

This kind of school yard pettiness just makes me agree with the Mayor even more that certain reforms and better community policing are badly needed in the NYPD

Danny Clampet ∑ Top Commenter ∑ University of Kentucky

Exactly! Those who demonstrated at the funeral are bullies who do not respect the mayor, the public or their fallen comrade and his family. They feel they are above all civilians, those in authority and those they supposedly serve.

Anne Arthur ∑ Top Commenter ∑ Portland, Oregon

I agree. They want respect, but too many act like immature children. This is not the way to instill public trust or respect into their judgments or behaviors. If they want respect, the good officers are going to have to 'out' the problematic officers. And the union needs to stop protecting the officers that hurt the organization as a whole.

This is really heartening! For sanity's sake. The NYPD wanted the Protestors to stop out of respect for Officers Ramos and Liu But, they cannot bring themselves to show the same respect they ask of others. Hypocrite thy name is NYPD.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #61)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:09 AM

71. Wow.. good to know, juxtaposed. thank you.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:05 AM

77. Absolutely nothing. NYPD just proved that suspicions about them & their behavior is true afterall.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #77)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:04 AM

81. Full stop, Tarheel.

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Response to Cha (Reply #81)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:53 PM

138. The sad news is that their ignorance is on full display for the whole world to see. How embarrasing

for all of us.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:09 AM

89. I read his statement. Nothing there to criticize. It was thoughtful.

People are saying that he "failed" to say good things about the NYPD.

What, we've got to kiss their asses every time they are mentioned? IMHO, that sense of entitlement is a big part of the problem.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:13 AM

90. Kick!

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:34 AM

93. Hell yes.....

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Response to Name removed (Reply #94)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:52 PM

98. Why do you think he is not a good man?

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #98)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:43 PM

116. I alerted shortly after that was posted and the jury voted 6-1 to leave it.

Looks like my suspicion was correct and the jury was horribly wrong.

On Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:38 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

Define 'good man'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6013426

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

I suspect this person is a troll and should be escorted from the premises.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:52 AM, and voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Another badge-sniffer, drive-by shithead. To obscurity with it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You may suspect but you don't know. Nothing worthy of a hide in this post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm a juror, not a troll-hunter.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter's suspicion is probably correct, but this post by itself doesn't do it.

Thank you.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #116)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:50 AM

134. Jury got it wrong.. thanks smokey.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:46 AM

95. The rightwing is never happy

They're always whining that if only black folks knew how to act the police wouldn't have to kill them. So deblasio tells his son how to act around the police and they're mad at that. What do they want from black folks?

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:32 PM

114. Agreed+

He has nothing to apologize for. Neither do protestors. Advocating police accountability is not advocating the murder of police.

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Response to stage left (Reply #114)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:38 AM

133. Jon Stewart quote ...

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:08 PM

125. I hope he is embolden by their action

and pursue the most vigorous change that the NYPD have ever seen.

#westandwithmayorblasio

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Response to Hutzpa (Reply #125)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:43 AM

136. the NYPD sure feels emboldened as illustrated by their disgraceful rhetoric and latest antics

... and they DESPISE any talk of reform

Change MUST come. These officers are out of control.

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Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:16 PM

128. Yes

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