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Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:08 PM

One Brave Officer Did Not Turn His Back On The Mayor --->








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Reply One Brave Officer Did Not Turn His Back On The Mayor ---> (Original post)
napkinz Dec 2014 OP
helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #1
napkinz Dec 2014 #2
helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #8
napkinz Dec 2014 #11
helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #14
rbrnmw Dec 2014 #5
helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #9
rbrnmw Dec 2014 #15
Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #6
Cha Dec 2014 #3
napkinz Dec 2014 #10
Cha Dec 2014 #18
napkinz Dec 2014 #21
G_j Dec 2014 #29
napkinz Dec 2014 #34
Cha Dec 2014 #33
napkinz Dec 2014 #35
Cha Dec 2014 #36
napkinz Dec 2014 #47
Cha Dec 2014 #49
rbrnmw Dec 2014 #4
Hutzpa Dec 2014 #7
Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #12
napkinz Dec 2014 #24
Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #30
napkinz Dec 2014 #31
lobodons Dec 2014 #13
still_one Dec 2014 #17
rbrnmw Dec 2014 #23
still_one Dec 2014 #25
rbrnmw Dec 2014 #26
drm604 Dec 2014 #16
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #19
napkinz Dec 2014 #22
sheshe2 Dec 2014 #28
napkinz Dec 2014 #37
mountain grammy Dec 2014 #20
napkinz Dec 2014 #38
mountain grammy Dec 2014 #46
napkinz Dec 2014 #48
Ramses Dec 2014 #27
daredtowork Dec 2014 #32
Cha Dec 2014 #40
Cha Dec 2014 #39
napkinz Dec 2014 #42
Cha Dec 2014 #43
napkinz Dec 2014 #44
joshcryer Dec 2014 #41
napkinz Dec 2014 #45

Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:11 PM

1. Applying for a job in the mayors office

 

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Response to helpmetohelpyou (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:16 PM

2. as another member posted ...

"Respect must be earned; you can't enforce it."

I sure as hell respect this officer!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:23 PM

8. My respect for the officer is not because he stood facing and didn't turn his back on the mayor

 

My respect for the officer comes because this was a funeral for his fallen fellow officer
and not a time or place to voice displeasure in the mayors office.

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Response to helpmetohelpyou (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:58 PM

11. by turning their backs, the other officers were politicizing a funeral and disrespecting

Officer Ramos.

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Response to napkinz (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:10 PM

14. It was a stupid decision on their part

 

I wonder now that some had time to reflect on what they did if some officers regret participating in it.

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Response to helpmetohelpyou (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:20 PM

5. excuse me?

are you serious?

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:24 PM

9. No just a joke

 

but read my other comment in the thread

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Response to helpmetohelpyou (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:15 PM

15. oh ok

sorry you never know here lol

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Response to helpmetohelpyou (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:20 PM

6. Come again?

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:19 PM

3. Amazing! One "gutsy" Black Officer.. beautiful. Mahalo napkinz. The NYPD, except for one,

showed theirselves to be prepubescent, Hypocritical with an arrogance beyond despicable, and more importantly.. heartbreakingly disrespectful to Officers Ramos.

Exactly.. complete list of those who protest at funerals.

Will they be doing the same at Officer Wenjian Liu's funeral?

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Response to Cha (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:50 PM

10. another GUTSY officer who more should know about ...




Meet the Police Chief Who's Bravely Protesting Police Brutality

Richmond California Police Chief Chris Magnus held "Black Lives Matters" sign while wearing his uniform.

Steven Rosenfeld
December 13, 2014

This past Tuesday, as the mayor and top city officials in Berkeley, California, were deciding to postpone that evening's City Council meeting to avoid a confrontation with protesters over clashes with police in demonstrations over police brutality, top officials in nearby Richmond did something unexpected.

Police Chief Chris Magnus, Deputy Chief Allwyn Brown, Mayor Gayle McLaughlin, and three City Council members all joined a similar protest on a major city thoroughfare to underscore that they understood the issues at stake and were listening to their community, which has one of region's most ethnically diverse populations.

They stood with protesters for four and a half hours, the length of time that Michael Brown's body lay on the pavement in Ferguson, Missouri, after the unarmed black man was shot and killed by a white officer.

"I spoke with my command staff and we agreed it would be nice to convey our commitment to peaceful protest and that black and brown lives do matter," said Magnus, whose remarks were widely quoted.

""We get the conversation about the use or force, we get it," said Brown on Tuesday. "This is an opportunity for all police departments, including ours, to look inward and examine our approaches and get better."

But in the days that followed, that looking inward has prompted surprising criticism from inside Richmond police ranks.

read more: http://www.alternet.org/activism/meet-police-chief-whos-bravely-protesting-police-brutality

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Response to napkinz (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:40 PM

18. Yes, and Chief Chris Magnus.. more about him later. We should get a whole list of the PD who are

Gutsy! We know they're out there.

Thanks for the, napkinz.

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:23 PM

21. how I wish someone would create such a list

... those gutsy officers deserve recognition and praise.

(There should be a Serpico award given to GOOD cops.)



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Response to napkinz (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:58 PM

29. The Police Are Still Out of Control, I should know.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html

By FRANK SERPICO October 23, 2014



In the opening scene of the 1973 movie “Serpico,” I am shot in the face—or to be more accurate, the character of Frank Serpico, played by Al Pacino, is shot in the face. Even today it’s very difficult for me to watch those scenes, which depict in a very realistic and terrifying way what actually happened to me on Feb. 3, 1971. I had recently been transferred to the Narcotics division of the New York City Police Department, and we were moving in on a drug dealer on the fourth floor of a walk-up tenement in a Hispanic section of Brooklyn. The police officer backing me up instructed me (since I spoke Spanish) to just get the apartment door open “and leave the rest to us.”

One officer was standing to my left on the landing no more than eight feet away, with his gun drawn; the other officer was to my right rear on the stairwell, also with his gun drawn. When the door opened, I pushed my way in and snapped the chain. The suspect slammed the door closed on me, wedging in my head and right shoulder and arm. I couldn’t move, but I aimed my snub-nose Smith & Wesson revolver at the perp (the movie version unfortunately goes a little Hollywood here, and has Pacino struggling and failing to raise a much-larger 9-millimeter automatic). From behind me no help came. At that moment my anger got the better of me. I made the almost fatal mistake of taking my eye off the perp and screaming to the officer on my left: “What the hell you waiting for? Give me a hand!” I turned back to face a gun blast in my face. I had cocked my weapon and fired back at him almost in the same instant, probably as reflex action, striking him. (He was later captured.)

When I regained consciousness, I was on my back in a pool of blood trying to assess the damage from the gunshot wound in my cheek. Was this a case of small entry, big exit, as often happens with bullets? Was the back of my head missing? I heard a voice saying, “Don’ worry, you be all right, you be all right,” and when I opened my eyes I saw an old Hispanic man looking down at me like Carlos Castaneda’s Don Juan. My “backup” was nowhere in sight. They hadn’t even called for assistance—I never heard the famed “Code 1013,” meaning “Officer Down.” They didn’t call an ambulance either, I later learned; the old man did. One patrol car responded to investigate, and realizing I was a narcotics officer rushed me to a nearby hospital (one of the officers who drove me that night said, “If I knew it was him, I would have left him there to bleed to death,” I learned later).

The next time I saw my “back-up” officers was when one of them came to the hospital to bring me my watch. I said, “What the hell am I going to do with a watch? What I needed was a back-up. Where were you?” He said, “Fuck you,” and left. Both my “back-ups” were later awarded medals for saving my life.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html#ixzz3NFgBNnZ5

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Response to G_j (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:42 PM

34. "I am also, all these years later, still persona non grata in the NYPD"

"Never mind that, thanks to Sidney Lumet’s direction and Al Pacino’s brilliant acting, 'Serpico' ranks No. 40 on the American Film Institute’s list of all-time movie heroes, or that as I travel around the country and the world, police officers often tell me they were inspired to join the force after seeing the movie at an early age.

In the NYPD that means little next to my 40-year-old heresy, as they see it. I still get hate mail from active and retired police officers.

-snip-

A few years ago, after the New York Police Museum refused my guns and other memorabilia, I loaned them to the Italian-American museum right down street from police headquarters, and they invited me to their annual dinner. I didn’t know it was planned, but the chief of police from Rome, Italy, was there, and he gave me a plaque. The New York City police officers who were there wouldn’t even look at me."


That's just sad. And very telling.

Houston ... I mean New York, you STILL have a problem.


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Response to napkinz (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:41 PM

33. Brilliant.. The Serpico Award.. like the Heisman only for Cops. More on Chief Magnus..

Monday, May 12, 2014

The East Bay's New Power Couple: Richmond’s Gay Police Chief Gets Married

snip//

Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus and Terrance Cheung, the chief of staff in Supervisor John Gioia’s office, were married in a ceremony that took place among blooming flowers in the terraced amphitheater at the Berkeley Rose Garden over the weekend. After the small ceremony, the newlyweds held a reception for about 250 people at the Richmond waterfront restaurant Salute’s.

Magnus and Cheung form something of a political power couple as was evidenced by some of the guests at the reception. Among the well-wishers were some of the heaviest hitters in the East Bay, including Congressman George Miller, state Senators Loni Hancock and Mark DeSaulnier, Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, Contra Costa Supervisor Gioia, Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates, Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin, and most of the city’s councilmembers.

snip//

Modesty aside, the two men have made considerable contributions to the communities they work in. As Supervisor Gioia’s chief of staff, Cheung has worked tirelessly on the development of the Ryse Center, which offers numerous resources and organizing opportunities for troubled youths in West Contra Costa County. He has also worked on the development of a one-stop service center for the formerly incarcerated that offers assistance with housing, employment, education, counseling, and medical resources for those who are struggling to get a footing after being released from prison. He is currently working the development of the West Contra Costa Family Justice Center, which provides counseling, legal and support services to the victims of domestic violence

Magnus’ eight years as Richmond police chief have seen a sustained reduction in violent crime that has rarely been matched in other cities that have experienced seemingly intractable violence related to gangs and chronic unemployment. When Magnus first became chief in 2006, Richmond was regularly rated as one of the most violent cities in the United States. Now, the city’s crime rates are at their lowest in 30 years, which is the result of Magnus’ community policing programs, which include forging strong bonds with community members, church leaders, and young people. The result has been safer streets and renewed interest in the city by businesses.

MOre..
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2014/05/12/the-new-power-couple-richmonds-gay-police-chief-gets-married

We know about lately what he's been up to..

Richmond Police Chief Magnus says he’d hold protest sign again

By Matier & Ross

Updated 6:33 pm, Monday, December 15, 2014

Richmond Police Chief Magnus says he’d hold protest sign again



Richmond Police Chief Chris Magnus, who set off an avalanche of emotions when he held up a “#Black Lives Matter” sign at a local protest, says he wouldn’t hesitate if placed in the same situation.

“Sure, I would do it again, but I would like to be a little better prepared for the fallout,” Magnus said Monday.

The police chief said he and about a half dozen other members of his command staff were at a community center when the protest began Dec. 9, and that a woman he was chatting with “on issues of the day” asked if he would hold the sign.

“I looked at it for a minute and realized this is actually pretty innocuous,” Magnus said. “That 'black lives matter’ is something that I would think that we should all be able to agree upon. All lives matter.”

MOre..
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Richmond-Police-Chief-Magnus-says-he-d-hold-5959053.php

napkinz~ We'll slowly get a list together.. it will come out. I have someone in mind when I get the time to feature him.. Pretty sure anyway.

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Response to Cha (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:01 AM

35. first, congrats to the happy couple!

Second, the NYPD should -- but of course won't -- look to Chief Magnus as a model for how to properly police:

Now, the city’s crime rates are at their lowest in 30 years, which is the result of Magnus’ community policing programs, which include forging strong bonds with community members, church leaders, and young people. The result has been safer streets and renewed interest in the city by businesses.

Thanks for sharing his story, Cha. We need to hear more such stories.

I look forward to seeing that list come out.

And this year's Serpico goes to ...



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Response to napkinz (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:23 AM

36. What a unique, "power couple", eh! Only doing good things and serving the People!

What a concept!

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Response to Cha (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 02:40 PM

47. another officer deserving of the SERPICO!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:23 PM

49. Great.. I'm making a list! Thank you, napkinz!

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:19 PM

4. Courage

thank you sir

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:21 PM

7. Respect and admiration

nothing but respect and admiration for this officer.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:07 PM

12. That Complete List.....

is says a lot, and none of it is good for the NYPD image.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:38 PM

24. I wonder how many New Yorkers actually support these antics and how many are disgusted by them.

Do we know what exactly the NYPD image is in New York?

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Response to napkinz (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:04 PM

30. I have heard nothing about how the people in NY feel about it.

But it really wouldn't matter, would it?

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:15 PM

31. Well you said "none of it is good for the NYPD image"

I just thought you meant the opinion of New Yorkers. I guess the NYPD doesn't care what its image is, in NY or the rest of the country. Their brazen antics pretty much supports such.

So you're right; it really doesn't matter. They're going to do as they please, regardless of public opinion.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:09 PM

13. GOP went ape shit

 

GOP went ape shit when Senator Wellstone's memorial service turned into a political event. I guess another example of IOKIYAR

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Response to lobodons (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:35 PM

17. and a lot of Democrats were not happy about it either, including Al Franken

Last edited Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to still_one (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:28 PM

23. It's Al Franken

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:38 PM

25. fixed

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Response to still_one (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:40 PM

26. cool

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:32 PM

16. Good for him!

It was, indeed, a brave act. He'll probably get a lot of harassment, or worse, from his fellow officers because of this.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:42 PM

19. Another sad day in America, napkinz.

They disrespected one of their own in a childish display of arrogance.

One brave man stood out in that crowd and stood for their fallen comrade, Officer Ramos.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:27 PM

22. I hope we learn the name of that brave officer

I would love to know more about him, his life.

He is an INSPIRATION!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:53 PM

28. He was an inspiration, napkinz.

One man standing bravely and alone.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:14 AM

37. I hope that image becomes iconic

it sends a message to the world (and I hope to those other officers so blinded by hate)

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:47 PM

20. one cop with courage.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:53 AM

38. reminds me of another INDIVIDUAL with great courage who refused peer pressue

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Response to napkinz (Reply #38)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:24 AM

46. You can be sure this man disappeared. Hope that brave cop watches his back

because I'm sure his "brothers in blue" won't.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:10 PM

48. "Black Cops Fear Other Cops - AlterNet/Salon"

posted by WillyT

“The black officers interviewed said they had been racially profiled by white officers exclusively, and about one third said they made some form of complaint to a supervisor.”

“All but one said their supervisors either dismissed the complaints or retaliated against them by denying them overtime, choice assignments, or promotions. The remaining officers who made no complaints said they refrained from doing so either because they feared retribution or because they saw racial profiling as part of the system.

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026010832

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:47 PM

27. seems like a whole barrel load of bad apples

 

Kinda shoots down any argument that most cops are good. Seems most cops are corrupt insubordinate hateful people.

America has the LARGEST PRISON POPULATION on the planet, and there are people who will say with a straight face that we arent a police state.

No one believes the bullshit anymore. No one buys it.

No one.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:15 PM

32. "Portrait of Courage"

Portrait of Courage - that was the best comment under the original twitter post for the top picture last night.

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Response to daredtowork (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:55 AM

40. Yeah, I like that.. "Portrait of Courage".. the only one out of how many?! Hope we find out if

he had to pay for that via Lynch's henchmen or not.

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:53 AM

39. CNN Reporter confronts Lynch.. Lynch goes full on Hypocritical..

CNN Reporter Confronts NYPD Union Head About Cops Turning Backs to de Blasio

What he did say was, “We have to understand the betrayal that they feel.” Lynch kept saying that today is a day for mourning, and tomorrow everyone can go back to debating. He did not outright say whether these officers were right or wrong to do what they did.

Lynch, of course, has been incredibly critical of de Blasio, to the point where he blamed the mayor’s rhetoric about the police for the deaths of Ramos and his partner Wenjian Liu.

MOre..
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-reporter-confronts-nypd-union-head-about-cops-turning-backs-to-de-blasio/

Yeah, "a day for mourning" and a day to show that we're not above Westboro Church.. we can Protest at funeral's too. Seems to me like Lynch was the one who made this happen with his inflammatory rhetoric.

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Response to Cha (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:04 AM

42. "We have to understand the betrayal that they feel."

How again were they betrayed? HOW????

1. The Mayor shared that he had a talk with his son, as any good father should.

2. And from your own thread, the mayor spoke out against violence:

On December 17th Mayor de Blasio said:

“You cannot talk about social change and then commit an act of violence against a police officer. It makes no sense. It denigrates the cause. It undermines the legitimacy. It’s illegal, it’s wrong, it’s immoral.”

Again on the 19th, a day before the killing of the officers, said:

“This is what our democracy allows for, is people to make their voices heard peacefully, in an organized way – and that’s what this group and others have been doing. I made very clear that we cannot accept any violence against our police officers or against anyone. And they were very quick to affirm that they were appalled equally by the events on Saturday night. They find it unacceptable and they will work with the police to identify anyone who seeks to harm the police or harm anyone and undermine their non-violent peaceful progressive movement.”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026002280


Pat Lynch is a DISGRACE!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #42)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:07 AM

43. Pat Lynch and the NYPD who turned their backs on the Mayor have this Bully-Victim card down

pat,

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Response to Cha (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:14 AM

44. they want respect and sympathy but they show none for the victims killed by their own

their rhetoric and antics the past week only confirm what so many had accused them of before the tragic deaths of the officers

that they are often tone-deaf and arrogant and hostile

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Response to napkinz (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:24 AM

41. We need that officers' name.

He'll potentially need protection or at least public support if suddenly he's demoted or loses his benefits or retirement or is forced into an early resignation or something.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:09 AM

45. I wanted to know his name because I wanted to know more about this brave man

But with what you just pointed out, now we have to be concerned for his well-being. For those of us who admire what he did, there are plenty more (his peers) who have disdain and who might seek retribution for his "disloyalty."

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