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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:34 PM Dec 2014

Chuck Todd SLIPPED AND TELLS THE TRUTH About Traditional Mainstream News





Chuck Todd had a very interesting segment featuring comedians/satirists Lewis Black W. Kamau Bell, and Laura Krafft. He was trying to examine the influence and impact of comedians in the body politic.

Lewis Black had a backhanded stab at Chuck Todd and the traditional mainstream media news that caused Chuck Todd to tell an inconvenient truth.

“I have watched you and everybody else where somebody comes on,” Lewis Black said. “I don’t know how you do it. Because I would be barking at them. Because they sit there and go ‘glib glib [blah blah]’ and you sit there.”

Chuck Todd then interjected. “We all sit there because we all know the first time we bark is the last time we do the show,” Chuck Todd said. “… All of a sudden, no one will come on your show.”
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Chuck Todd SLIPPED AND TELLS THE TRUTH About Traditional Mainstream News (Original Post) Segami Dec 2014 OP
Yes the M$M is all about the cult of personality. Has nothing to do with news or journalism. Rex Dec 2014 #1
Well, then, Chuckie Toad BellaKos Dec 2014 #2
... napkinz Dec 2014 #3
Also, his bosses told him not to call them out, not that HE ever would! Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #4
That right there is everything that is wrong with this country.. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #5
May as well just be a game show host, then.. whathehell Dec 2014 #29
As ignorant a truth-telling as Shrub pangaia Dec 2014 #6
Hey, Toady, if they can't tell the truth they don't deserve to be on the air. Scuba Dec 2014 #7
Correct Dirty Socialist Dec 2014 #15
No ONE?! Bullshite. You know who WILL come to the show? Raine1967 Dec 2014 #8
The unfair, biased news media is where the Far Right derives most of their undeserved power. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #9
What's REALLY needed Plucketeer Dec 2014 #12
That would be something. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #14
Ay caramba Maynar Dec 2014 #17
I like the way you think. ZX86 Dec 2014 #19
Yes sir! Plucketeer Dec 2014 #23
Special Edition! daleanime Dec 2014 #26
Excellent idea...John Stewart hosting a political show! whathehell Dec 2014 #30
I was under the impression Boreal Dec 2014 #20
ratings trump truth. spanone Dec 2014 #10
Lewis Black is fuckin' awesome! And he's pretty funny too! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #11
Yes, so why bother to watch the interview shows? mountain grammy Dec 2014 #13
they should just call it infomercials yurbud Dec 2014 #16
Thom Hartmann has talked about this on his show over the years project_bluebook Dec 2014 #18
Thom slaps republicans silly with the truth, and they keep coming on his show. B Calm Dec 2014 #22
They seem to have it backward daredtowork Dec 2014 #21
Oh FFS ctsnowman Dec 2014 #24
So how about giving Lewis Black a show? Brigid Dec 2014 #25
Well, in all fairness to Chuck Todd... JayhawkSD Dec 2014 #27
that's the same answer i got from the producers of the news show i worked on librechik Dec 2014 #28
Chuck's Lack of A Future Was Just Sealed Dadlee41 Dec 2014 #31
There should be a national law to force politicians to defend their policies on camera LiberalLovinLug Dec 2014 #32
Double-plus good cp Dec 2014 #33
He speaks truth davekriss Dec 2014 #34
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. Yes the M$M is all about the cult of personality. Has nothing to do with news or journalism.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:41 PM
Dec 2014

That died out back when CNN decided they were bigger than Jesus.

BellaKos

(318 posts)
2. Well, then, Chuckie Toad
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:14 PM
Dec 2014

Why watch you at all? If you don't have the stones to challenge the "glib, glib," then I would be better off just reading the politicians' press releases. Saves time.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
4. Also, his bosses told him not to call them out, not that HE ever would!
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:58 PM
Dec 2014

Cenk had his short run on MSNBC ended because he was calling them out and they had told him to stop, he would jeopardize their "access!"
Networks did just fine getting politicians to come on their shows 30 years ago, before they all turned into propaganda machines. Journalism is truly dead if a host of a major Sunday show openly admits he is virtually a shill. He has stated in the past that as a journalist it wasn't his job to do journalism (challenge Republican lies about the ACA)!
This is the best they can come up with? If they are going to blow smoke up our butts, wouldn't it make sense not to pick the guy who has asthma?

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
5. That right there is everything that is wrong with this country..
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:04 PM
Dec 2014

What he said boils down to this, he either gives Republicans a platform to lie with impunity or he's off the air. And he so hates this country and so wants to be one of "them" that he is willing to do this.

Journalist? More like booking agent.

Fuck you Chuck.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
8. No ONE?! Bullshite. You know who WILL come to the show?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:27 PM
Dec 2014

people who want to speak truth, dammit. People who want to bark the truth out.

this was one of the most amazing sad truths I have seen on M$M lately.

Fugg all the liars, let the truth speakers out!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. The unfair, biased news media is where the Far Right derives most of their undeserved power.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:35 PM
Dec 2014

Our efforts should be directed toward dismantling this advantage.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
12. What's REALLY needed
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:09 PM
Dec 2014

is to convince Comedy Central to air a fresh Jon Stewart show on Sunday mornings.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
19. I like the way you think.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:08 AM
Dec 2014

Jon could host the show with a rotating set of guest journalists to ask questions and a select group of reporters, academics, and political savvy comedians for the panel discussions.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. Yes sir!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:02 AM
Dec 2014

I can see Jon asking the guest a legitimate question of a guest and getting back a MM answer, whereupon Jon would launch into his usual mocking assessments thereof!

whathehell

(29,026 posts)
30. Excellent idea...John Stewart hosting a political show!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:00 PM
Dec 2014
Politicians should be able to DEFEND their ideas, and they would HAVE to with

someone like JS.
 

Boreal

(725 posts)
20. I was under the impression
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:19 AM
Dec 2014

that teevee "news" has dismal ratings as people have chosen alternative sources on the internet.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
13. Yes, so why bother to watch the interview shows?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:11 PM
Dec 2014

I quit a long time ago, but will watch the clip with Lewis Black. He's terrific.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
18. Thom Hartmann has talked about this on his show over the years
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:43 PM
Dec 2014

The networks get blacklisted if they challenge any lies. GW had the same rules at his press conferences.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
21. They seem to have it backward
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:21 AM
Dec 2014

The trick is to be so awesome that people are begging to come on your show.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
27. Well, in all fairness to Chuck Todd...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 12:49 PM
Dec 2014

...he would allow Democrats to get away with lies too, if they did come on his show and tell lies. However, he seldom ever gets around to inviting them on his show, and when he does they don't tell lies, so the issue doesn't arise.

But in the interest of accuracy Lewis Black didn't ask about Republicans, he asked about "somebody."

librechik

(30,673 posts)
28. that's the same answer i got from the producers of the news show i worked on
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:21 PM
Dec 2014

Have you ever heard of a Republican turning down a guest shot on MTP? It never happens. If GOP is in power, bookers balance the Rs up because they are in power. If the GOP is not in power, they boost them up because they are the loyal opposition. I know cuz it was my job to count them.

These producers are not interested in filling the (fictional) vacuum caused by loss of GOP voices with anybody other than the most conservative voices left. They are extremely unlikely to book segments on green technology. sustainability, and making peace. The owners of all 6-15 US media companies are international globalist billionaire or their American stooges. They won't pay to have us (liberals) on and they don't care that they lose money over it (not much money)

Until our alternate media has as much power as Time Warner, nobody is going to hear us.

Dadlee41

(1 post)
31. Chuck's Lack of A Future Was Just Sealed
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:47 PM
Dec 2014

Chuck is not cut from the cloth of Cronkite! He's not even a David Gregory. I wonder what "Masked Man", they'll hire soon to replace him. Courage is lacking in so many media and political venues. I guess the best we can hope for now is slip ups that reaffirm liberal values.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
32. There should be a national law to force politicians to defend their policies on camera
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:01 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe on a show like this, maybe something else. But in a democracy, it should be so important that it is a law that a chosen representative is put on once a week from each party to answer questions from a host that cannot be fired. The problem would be finding someone that will be accepted by the right and the left. Perhaps two or three individuals representing the spectrum. Or new hosts every week. Some system where elected politicians MUST defend their positions publicly and be asked questions by someone that is perhaps also "elected" for a term.

In Canada here, we at least have something called "Question Period" in our Parliament. Where all parties get to stand up and raise and direct questions to the governing party in a publicly televised session. In the USA, there seems to be no avenue for direct criticism or questioning and forcing a politician to answer. As this story shows, even the "free press" is cuckolded. (...or Chuckolded)

cp

(6,615 posts)
33. Double-plus good
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:28 PM
Dec 2014

So if a war criminal like Dick Cheney won't come on MTP anymore, don't we all win?

davekriss

(4,615 posts)
34. He speaks truth
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:16 PM
Dec 2014

A well known phenomenon. See, for example, Herbert & Chomsky's 1988 book, Manufacturing Consent. (And Chomsky's Necessary Illusions).

This situation is made exponentially worse with the demise of FCC regulations like the Fairness Doctrine, the anti-Attack rule, and the Rule of Sevens. Plus the 1996 Telecommunications Reform Act, accelerating the concentration of almost all major media into the hands of a half dozen mega-corporations. All this brings a lot of negative pressure on the isolated journalist.

Hurray for the disintermediation of the Internet! Hurray for the livestream journalist and bloggers and forums like this! However, currently, our collective voice is drowned out daily by the megaphones of major media. Thus the desire by the PTB to muzzle the Internet....

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