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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA thread of support for Mayor Bill de Blasio
The world can see, plain as day, what is happening: de Blasio is facing an insurrection by NYC's police department because he wants all of that force to obey the law, and to act in a manner that civil society demands.
When the keepers of law and order permit wanton lawlessness within their own ranks, things can only end terribly. Let us hope that Mayor de Blasio has the wisdom, strength and courage necessary to win this battle; if he loses, Democracy loses.
spanone
(141,610 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)redwitch
(15,261 posts)The union president escalated a bad situation and is blaming de Blasio for the bad behavior of the cops. If there is one true thing every cop should know is NEVER ESCALATE an already tense situation.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)dawg
(10,777 posts)It looks really bad on the NYPD from here. I have yet to see anything that de Blasio said or did that would justify such a stunning display of disrespect.
Hate to say it, but somebody would be in for some petty retribution if it were me. (And I *know* that isn't right.)
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)I respect police officers but I do not feel that they should have almost unlimited power.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)and shake down small local businesses. Bad cops act like the mafia.
JonLP24
(29,929 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)From here in WI
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)
gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)FUCK THE COPS!!!!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)Indyfan53
(529 posts)Let's get this hashtag going on Twitter!
madokie
(51,076 posts)someones need a knot jerked in their ass
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Glad New Yorkers agree too. I think the residents of NY like the NYPD as much as Angelinos like the LAPD.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)De Blasio has the people of NYC behind him. No worry.
jimlup
(8,010 posts):kick: and rec!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)calimary
(90,021 posts)YOU stand tall. They just remind everybody how small and petty they are.
NYFlip
(338 posts)I'm a New Yorker and totally agree with him
MADem
(135,425 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And of course we at Independent Underground News & Talk #STANDWITHMAYORDEBLASIO
mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)and I agree, he must not lose on this issue...
silverweb
(16,410 posts)rewinn
(23 posts)... if a public servant does not want to serve the public, he or she needs to find another job.
Now the union should be about protecting employees from abuse, but insisting that police avoid killing people is not abuse. The solution may be for the voters to figure out who names the police commissioner (I don't know what NYC's system is) and then do something about that.
JonLP24
(29,929 posts)though it would be an unusual for one not to do so publicly. The last example that recently happened got Chief Garcia fired (who the unions opposed which carried over to city hall) but his comments seem genuine.
NYPD Commissioner Says Snubbing Mayor de Blasio Was 'Inappropriate'
A day after hundreds of NYPD officers, in an act of defiance, turned their back on New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio as he spoke at a funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos, who was killed along with Officer Wenjian Liu earlier this month, New York City Police Commissioner defended the mayor and said the officers' act was "very inappropriate."
"That funeral was held to honor Officer Ramos, and to bring politics, to bring issues into that event, I think was very inappropriate and I do not support it," said Commissioner Bill Bratton on CBS' Face The Nation. "He is the mayor of New York. He was there representing the citizens of New York to express their remorse and their regret at that death.
"At the same time," he added, "it is reflective unfortunately of the feelings of some of our officers at this junctureabout not just the mayor but, I think, about some of the many issues that are afflicting the city at this time." He admitted that "morale in the department at this time is low, there's no getting around that," noting contract negotiations with the city as well as national dialogues about relations between police and communities of color.
However, Bratton defended de Blasio: "This is a mayor that cares very deeply about New York City police officers, cares very deeply about the divide in this city at this time and is working very hard to heal that divide."
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/nypd-commissioner-says-snubbing-mayor-bill-de-blasio-was-inappropriate/384076/
rewinn
(23 posts)...although I don't know what can be done to turn this around, I really don't.
1step
(380 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)reform the NYPD.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)Good for NYC for electing him.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,961 posts)and frankly, I hope he runs for higher office.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)to the presidential primary debates?
DonCoquixote
(13,961 posts)Jeb and Hillary are dragged toward the subject, which they will avoid, as frankly neither of them want to oppose the Police. Both want to court that "Reagan Democrat" that has been the bane of the nation for 30 years, that so called liberal who nonethless wants to keep those people that scare them locked up.
Denis 11
(285 posts)Euphoria
(455 posts)police officers who think that their job (paid by us) is to harass, threaten or kill us. Their job is to protect and serve us.
MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)
liberal from boston
(856 posts)So proud of Mayor DiBlasio--we have your back!!!
Madmiddle
(459 posts)Place left on the Bible. I hearby deputize all Citizens of New York city.
riqster
(13,986 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)malthaussen
(18,567 posts)Those police officers in the NYPD who show disrespect for the elected mayor -- and thus by extension to all of us who pay taxes and provide their employment -- should be ashamed of themselves.
-- Mal
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)for those on the left (human) side in Central America - I have been a strong supporter of Bill de Blasio.
I was on here posting about him when people were like, huh? Now you see why!!!
meow2u3
(25,250 posts)As for the insurrectionist cops, along with the PBA's president Lynch, they ought to face federal insurrection charges.
No police, military, or militia (National Guard or State Guards) ought be become a paramilitary occupying force, making them a law unto themselves. They're supposed to be subject to civilian authority, not the other way around.
Pat Nixon
(6 posts)i stand with the Mayor of New York. Reform & Retraining is never easy, but it is necessary.
raging moderate
(4,624 posts)Hang in there, Mr. de Blasio.
As William Lloyd Garrison often remarked, POSTERITY WILL SAY THAT YOU WERE RIGHT.
If your opponents prevail, there will be no posterity, and not for them either. Theirs is a way of pride that leads to destruction.
yuiyoshida
(45,415 posts)K&R
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Few politicians have his keen and earnest sense of right and wrong. Few have his sincere willingness to listen and learn. He is a true progressive who emphatically does NOT dislike the police. Indeed, many police (of all colors and creeds) have been supporters over the years. But he gets what it is like to be a person of color and to have to deal with the police (both good and bad).
He's not losing this. Not happening.
HoosierCowboy
(561 posts)Thought he was the Mayor of NYC. Turns out he's the Mayor of Gotham and no Batman in sight.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)!!
lark
(26,081 posts)Don't let the lawless, murder condoning, SS NYPD pukes win. Still think he shold fire every single individual who turned their backs.
turbinetree
(27,551 posts)The police are to serve and protect they are also suppose to be transparent, this did not happen
I support Mr. de Blasio more now and into the future.
I will have his back, because I am the public and a union member.
lordsummerisle
(4,653 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)The public behavior of the NYPD is beyond shocking and outrageous, but it is also incredibly revealing. stark, sharp demonstration of extreme arrogance and deep racism.
