Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:21 PM

US 'Formally' Ends 'War' in Afghanistan. Troops Respond:

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US 'Formally' Ends 'War' in Afghanistan. Troops Respond: (Original post)	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	OP
The only good thing about this statement is that Obama wasn't wearing a flight suit with a sock in	Agnosticsherbet	Dec 2014	#1
And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#2
Same motherf#ckin thing. Plus, why don't we fix our own problems first?	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	#3
Probably nothing. So what?	Doctor_J	Dec 2014	#4
Our wars in those places ended some time ago	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#5
Let's see...Afghanistan vs. Italy...are those anything like each other...	Doctor_J	Dec 2014	#6
he's right. see post #10	uhnope	Dec 2014	#11
this bizarre talking point again. jesus christ.	m-lekktor	Dec 2014	#8
It's not a "talking point" it's basic reality: troops in a place does not equal war continuing	uhnope	Dec 2014	#10
Tell that to the Taliban who continue the war in Afghanistan	neverforget	Dec 2014	#12
Maybe because it's their country, we attacked them. Like Japan attacked us.	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	#13
By "their country", you mean the Taliban?	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#22
I mean - not ours.	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	#32
I beg your pardon?	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#15
Why? We can't really afford it, can we?	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	#17
I have not the foggiest idea, Graham	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	Jeff Rosenzweig	Dec 2014	#24
Are people in those counties trying to kill American troops?	former9thward	Dec 2014	#19
I can't speak for everyone in Afghanistan	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#20
Americans are not stationed in N. Korea.	former9thward	Dec 2014	#25
" You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany?"	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#26
" And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?"	former9thward	Dec 2014	#27
No, I am observing that there are troops in many places where we are not pursuing an active war	jberryhill	Dec 2014	#28
That they're not in war zones?	LittleBlue	Dec 2014	#23
When our plane flew out of Vietnam, we let out a collective/spontaneous cheer. n/t	UTUSN	Dec 2014	#7
the war did not end, it will go on and on ...nt	quadrature	Dec 2014	#9
it's so this accomplishment can be added to THE LIST	Skittles	Dec 2014	#14
The latest act in the foreign policy kabuki theater	KG	Dec 2014	#16
The U.S. may have ended the 'war' she wanted to fight. But the Afghan Resistance (aka	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2014	#21
pretty much.	grahamhgreen	Dec 2014	#31
my great-uncle was ineuro[pe long after WW2 ended. and that was a clear win.	pansypoo53219	Dec 2014	#29
We lost. Get out. Get over it.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2014	#30

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:35 PM

Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)

1. The only good thing about this statement is that Obama wasn't wearing a flight suit with a sock in

his pants.

Bring home our people and deman Congress end the AUMF. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ40/pdf/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:41 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

2. And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:52 PM

grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)

3. Same motherf#ckin thing. Plus, why don't we fix our own problems first?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 10:56 PM

Doctor_J (36,392 posts)

4. Probably nothing. So what?

What does that have to do with this?

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:00 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

5. Our wars in those places ended some time ago

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:28 PM

Doctor_J (36,392 posts)

6. Let's see...Afghanistan vs. Italy...are those anything like each other...

Nope! Maybe we should ask the soldiers if they would like to trade places.

Aside from the fact that they should ALL be home, your comparison of Rome to Kabul is ridiculous

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:52 PM

uhnope (6,419 posts)

11. he's right. see post #10

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:36 PM

m-lekktor (3,675 posts)

8. this bizarre talking point again. jesus christ.

unfuckingbelievable.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:50 PM

uhnope (6,419 posts)

10. It's not a "talking point" it's basic reality: troops in a place does not equal war continuing

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Response to uhnope (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:24 AM

neverforget (9,426 posts)

12. Tell that to the Taliban who continue the war in Afghanistan

as opposed to the German and Japanese who surrendered and the shooting stopped. There was no insurgency in those countries.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:25 AM

grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)

13. Maybe because it's their country, we attacked them. Like Japan attacked us.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:08 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

22. By "their country", you mean the Taliban?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:28 PM

grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)

32. I mean - not ours.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:16 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

15. I beg your pardon?

It occurred to me that there are troops stationed in a lot of places where there are no wars. I didn't think it was a particularly bizarre thought.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:39 PM

grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)

17. Why? We can't really afford it, can we?

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:54 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

18. I have not the foggiest idea, Graham

Good fucking God, this place has become ridiculous. A casual observation that "presence of troops" does not mean "continuation of war" is taken as if it is an observation looking for a fight.

I have no clue when everyone on DU got on such a fucking hair trigger over every casual comment.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:57 PM

former9thward (30,032 posts)

19. Are people in those counties trying to kill American troops?

It seems there is a difference between Afghanistan and those countries.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:04 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

20. I can't speak for everyone in Afghanistan

So, if that question really puzzles you, perhaps you might ask someone who knows.

In Korea, it pretty much looks like a staring contest.

But I would imagine that the troops stationed in Afghanistan might have something to do with the agreement between the US and the government there which the US recognizes.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:40 PM

former9thward (30,032 posts)

25. Americans are not stationed in N. Korea.

And N. Korea is not killing U.S. troops regardless. People in Afghanistan are trying to kill American troops and they have been successful at it. You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany? The so-called agreement by the Afghan government means nothing outside of Kabul and not even there. That agreement does not stop bullets, IEDs or anything else which will kill Americans.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:43 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

26. " You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany?"

No. Nor did I suggest any such thing.

I hope your argument finds someone who is on the other side of it.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:52 PM

former9thward (30,032 posts)

27. " And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?"

Your post. You are implying the situation in those countries are the same as Afghanistan. The posters replying to you know it.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:05 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

28. No, I am observing that there are troops in many places where we are not pursuing an active war

The observation that there are troops stationed somewhere where there is not a war strikes me as facile.

Beyond that, I am impressed with the gathering of psychics here to tell me what I think.

We didn't have ANY troops in mainland Japan until after that war was over, come to think of it.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:09 PM

LittleBlue (10,362 posts)

23. That they're not in war zones?

Perhaps also that the Axis Powers were defeated 70 years ago. That's probably what they say.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:34 PM

UTUSN (69,040 posts)

7. When our plane flew out of Vietnam, we let out a collective/spontaneous cheer. n/t

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:43 PM

quadrature (2,049 posts)

9. the war did not end, it will go on and on ...nt

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:29 AM

Skittles (151,427 posts)

14. it's so this accomplishment can be added to THE LIST

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:26 AM

KG (28,741 posts)

16. The latest act in the foreign policy kabuki theater

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:04 PM

KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)

21. The U.S. may have ended the 'war' she wanted to fight. But the Afghan Resistance (aka

"Taliban"

has not ended the war it wants to fight (to drive out the foreign occupation and defeat collaborators). The Afghan Resistance's spring offensive of 2015 may mean that we finally admit defeat in the war the Resistance is fighting and pull the remainder of our occupation forces out.

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:55 PM

grahamhgreen (15,741 posts)