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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:37 PM Dec 2014

If the couple whose wedding was relocated isn't upset - why should anyone else be?

Does it impact you in any way? I don't quite understand getting angry over something that clearly was resolved and ended on good terms. Am I missing something here?

Or is this just another attempt to take a shot at Pres. Obama?

Hm...

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If the couple whose wedding was relocated isn't upset - why should anyone else be? (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 OP
No reason, really, elleng Dec 2014 #1
Obama staff had no reason to believe a ceremony was planned for the 16th tee. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #31
Because the President can't seem to do anything right. Stellar Dec 2014 #2
LOL! I Love it! PBO: "“If I had skipped the 16th hole, I would have had a better score.” Cha Dec 2014 #11
Trying to start a fight again? Nt Logical Dec 2014 #3
This particular fight has been going on for awhile now. I think Drunken Irishman just won it. nt Electric Monk Dec 2014 #4
+1. And he didn't even start it. K&R right here. freshwest Dec 2014 #23
BECAUSE IT IS SHIT YOU CAN THROW AT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kwassa Dec 2014 #5
they were told when they booked it this could happen. it's on an army base. spanone Dec 2014 #6
Imagine the headline "President Obama skips golf game to avoid inconveniencing bride and groom", Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #7
Obama would be criticized as weak for deferring to a bride/woman. Takket Dec 2014 #14
Actually, there would be a thread here with 100+ responses about what a great guy he is, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #15
On here sure, I meant from the GOP Takket Dec 2014 #17
Imagine the headline "Obama skips 16th hole - proof he cheats at golf". CincyDem Dec 2014 #44
I suspect that anywhere a president goes, he is causing inconveniences. Chemisse Dec 2014 #8
Repubicans are utterly obsessed with Obama's golf game. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #9
Because.. scold scold scold.. As this person said on the FB page.. Cha Dec 2014 #10
+1000 silverweb Dec 2014 #16
I would think so if it were my wedding, silverweb. Cha Dec 2014 #18
I got a pic, silverweb.. the minute they get the call.. Cha Dec 2014 #22
Love it! silverweb Dec 2014 #25
You're Welcome! Cha Dec 2014 #28
because it is our job to police other folks emotions? AngryAmish Dec 2014 #12
Obama is black. Hence the problem. Takket Dec 2014 #13
They're not really. It's ODS raising its ugly head once again...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #19
It fits two RW narratives. Obama golfs too much, and Obama hates the troops. Nailzberg Dec 2014 #20
I got a Picture! The moment they get the call from the President.. Cha Dec 2014 #21
So happy for them! silverweb Dec 2014 #24
Yeah, it pretty much says it all on their faces, silverweb~ :)))))))))))))))))) Cha Dec 2014 #29
Wow KMOD Dec 2014 #26
Yes, majorly distressed, KMOD! lOLOLOLOL Sometimes things just turn out Cha Dec 2014 #30
Very cool. Of course, no MSM article used that picture. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #32
Too bad.. they lose and so do the American people.. reality is a much better story than those Cha Dec 2014 #35
So true. Thanks, Cha. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #36
Their faces are twisted with rage and anger, obviously jberryhill Dec 2014 #45
I remember one of the first Clinton stories were a couple brand new staffers taking a helicopter brewens Dec 2014 #27
Thank you, DI. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #33
And this one too... SidDithers Dec 2014 #38
Ug. I thought it was just one. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #39
This is a non story that the msm is having a LibDemAlways Dec 2014 #34
How did it actually become news? Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #37
Good question. The anti-Obama slant was first posted by Bloomberg News. SunSeeker Dec 2014 #40
Interesting...thanks!...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #42
Yes of course davidpdx Dec 2014 #41
I saw the headline on a tv monitor when I was out and about yesterday. Kalidurga Dec 2014 #43
Okay - who has had an obnoxious wedding in the past few years? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #46

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
31. Obama staff had no reason to believe a ceremony was planned for the 16th tee.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:20 AM
Dec 2014

Obama's staff called for a tee time and got one. No one told them there was a wedding ceremony planned at the 16th tee on the golf course. It is reasonable for them to assume if there were "obstacles" the course staff would have said so and not given Obama that tee time.

The course manager made the decision to move the ceremony after Obama got the tee time and he did not consult nor notify Obama nor Obama's staff. Nor was there reason to. The manager moved the ceremony what appears to be just a few yards to a nearby and even more picturesque spot overlooking the origin spot, but with a lot more privacy. This did not appear to affect the wedding reception at all, which was presumably planned in the clubhouse or other sit-down location, as opposed to the 16th tee on the golf course.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tee-time-scuttles-soldiers-wedding-venue/story?id=27880910

This story is just another bullshit story trumped up to bash Obama.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
2. Because the President can't seem to do anything right.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:45 PM
Dec 2014


Adding to the unforgettable experience was an unexpected phone call from Obama, who phoned the couple to apologize for the mix-up.

Dryer said the President told Mallue, also an Army captain, “If I had skipped the 16th hole, I would have had a better score.”

http://wgntv.com/2014/12/29/bride-forced-to-move-wedding-for-obamas-golf-game/

Cha

(297,154 posts)
11. LOL! I Love it! PBO: "“If I had skipped the 16th hole, I would have had a better score.”
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:03 AM
Dec 2014

Mahalo Stellar!

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
5. BECAUSE IT IS SHIT YOU CAN THROW AT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:49 PM
Dec 2014

If you are Republican, you throw any conceivable complaint at Obama, based on nothing, to hope it sticks.

It doesn't have to be consistent with anything else you say ever.

And if it sticks even slightly, beat it to death.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. Imagine the headline "President Obama skips golf game to avoid inconveniencing bride and groom",
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:50 PM
Dec 2014

followed by a story where the President made alternative plans so that the wedding could go ahead as planned. What would you think reading such a story? How would this compare with the optics of what actually happened?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. Actually, there would be a thread here with 100+ responses about what a great guy he is,
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:09 AM
Dec 2014

and how considerate he was of the happy couple.

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
44. Imagine the headline "Obama skips 16th hole - proof he cheats at golf".
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:28 AM
Dec 2014


No matter what this guy does, he's going to vilified for doing it.

If he were to rush into a burning building to save a baby the headline would read - "Obama prevents firefighters from saving baby".

Same as it ever was...he can't win.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
8. I suspect that anywhere a president goes, he is causing inconveniences.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:55 PM
Dec 2014

That doesn't mean he should sit in the White House cowering in fear of getting bad press over a traffic jam or a closed restaurant or blocked off area of a golf course.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
10. Because.. scold scold scold.. As this person said on the FB page..
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:01 AM
Dec 2014

Lucas Johnson If ya'll would read the article, the President called them personally and apologized and it "made their day", AND they got to have their wedding at a much nicer venue. Considering the golf course was on a military base that he frequently plays on, and everyone is notified that their plans might have to change if he comes around, I see no problem with this. Please read the article before jumping to conclusions

https://www.facebook.com/CBS46/posts/10152962028481252

Shit happens.. it's how you handle it that's important.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
16. +1000
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:09 AM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Reading only headlines leads to all kinds of misunderstandings. Learned that the hard way myself.

Lucky bride & groom!

Nailzberg

(4,610 posts)
20. It fits two RW narratives. Obama golfs too much, and Obama hates the troops.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:22 AM
Dec 2014

There should be no story here. Its hardly the only time people have had to change plans because of a high level VIP.

The USS Lincoln had to turn around and go back to sea so Bush could announce "Mission Accomplished". But the RW didn't care about those sailors returning home. So Obama golfs. So what? Bush went for long bike rides. Clinton jogged (can't call it running). People have to be moved for that to happen.

My feeling about this in particular: The couple were aware the venue would be moved. There were already alternate locations in place. And they actually got a better venue out of it. Base COs have huge houses, much like university presidents, that are used for many formal occasions and gatherings. The kinda parties you have to wear your Dress A's. The view is better, cause this house was on a hill above the golf course.

And its not like the President knows who's getting displaced. It just happens. He tells someone he wants to play golf tomorrow. Staffer tells another staffer, and this military golf course gets a phone call. "The President would like to play a round of golf tomorrow."The golf course doesn't say "No can do, there's a wedding scheduled." They just move the wedding. No one in the White House knew there was a wedding until after it was moved.

Nothing else changed, nothing was ruined, the wedding went off as planned (well, plan B but you know), and these two low-level officers got a better venue and a personal congratulatory phone call from the President of the United States. They came out ahead, and the RW still gets all bent out of shape.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
21. I got a Picture! The moment they get the call from the President..
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:28 AM
Dec 2014

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
Follow
Natalie Heimel, Edward Mallue & wedding party react after getting call from President
No hate here MSM, move on

6:05 PM - 29 Dec 2014 29 Retweets 19 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/29/2014-50-most-memorable-moments/

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
26. Wow
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:42 AM
Dec 2014

That poor couple, so obviously distressed by this inconvenience. And now, every anniversary they have will be haunted by this memory.

Can I just lol instead of adding a sarcasm post? I think the sarcasm is obvious, so

I wish them many years of happiness. Getting a phone call from the President of the United States on my wedding day would be pretty awesome, imo.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
30. Yes, majorly distressed, KMOD! lOLOLOLOL Sometimes things just turn out
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:14 AM
Dec 2014

great.. with all kinds of silver linings. And, it was stated that they got a much better venue for their wedding so it's all good.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
32. Very cool. Of course, no MSM article used that picture.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:25 AM
Dec 2014

That does not fit with their anti-Obama narrative.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
35. Too bad.. they lose and so do the American people.. reality is a much better story than those
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:42 AM
Dec 2014

whining their damn heads off about it.

SunSeeker

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
45. Their faces are twisted with rage and anger, obviously
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:45 AM
Dec 2014

...and the groom's garland has been culturally appropriated.

brewens

(13,575 posts)
27. I remember one of the first Clinton stories were a couple brand new staffers taking a helicopter
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:53 AM
Dec 2014

out to play that Congressional golf course. That was true as far as I know. I would have been knocking some heads together if I were Clnton on that one but it kind of shows what the people you'd have working for you might be like. Of course the wedding moves for the golf round, he's the freakin' President! It would have been better if they had played it the other way. It also wouldn't have hurt the people that booked the wedding to stand their ground with whatever staffers they dealt with. It could be they were falling all over themselves assuring Obamas' people it wouldn't be a problem.

If my first wedding had been moved for the President, I'd still be telling the story. It would even be better if it was a President I hated. Getting to tell the story would be worth him doing that for sure!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
39. Ug. I thought it was just one.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:57 AM
Dec 2014

Who needs Fox when multiple DUers are willing to post this shit? Well, at least the threads provide entertaining take downs of the OPs.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
34. This is a non story that the msm is having a
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:39 AM
Dec 2014

field day with. Guaranteed that if the same thing had happened to Bush, the incident either would have never been reported or would have been given a totally positive spin with the couple said to be thrilled about the turn of events.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
37. How did it actually become news?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:26 AM
Dec 2014

I'm not clear how the story broke.

I assume if it was non issue it wouldn't have been non reported.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
40. Good question. The anti-Obama slant was first posted by Bloomberg News.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:16 AM
Dec 2014
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tee-time-scuttles-soldiers-wedding-venue/story?id=27880910

Then the rest of the MSM ran with the same type anti-Obama headline, suggesting the venue change was the President's fault.

It appears that a call from Bloomberg News is what tipped off the President that there was a wedding.

After Bloomberg Politics inquired about the scheduling conflict, Obama put in a personal call to the bride.


davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. Yes of course
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:34 AM
Dec 2014

What is politics in the US without making hey out of stuff that Obama does? The media has to turn it into another scandal.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
43. I saw the headline on a tv monitor when I was out and about yesterday.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:24 AM
Dec 2014

I knew that the RWers were going to start crying about this and making it out to be a big deal. I am happy to see they did not disappoint.

JustAnotherGen

(31,815 posts)
46. Okay - who has had an obnoxious wedding in the past few years?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:52 AM
Dec 2014

Hi - me!

Was it outside or inside? Outside!

What month? Middle of April.

Where? Central NJ! You know where it could be 40 and rainy on April 15th, or 72 and sunny and breezy - or 93 and hot and huuuuuuuuuuumid.

Unfortunately I got that 93 hot and humid day.


Who the fuck plans a wedding outside NOT being aware that you could have changes to precisely WHERE you get married at the said venue?

No one.

No one investing that time and money and stress is going to overlook that in their contract.


Can we be reasonable folks?

This was not a big deal. And she obviously didn't go all Bridezilla over this.

If President Obama and Michelle Obama had wanted a tour of an extremely historic inn on the day I got married - I would have understood.

But if it had been Joe and Jill Biden I would have said - AFTER the ceremony and can I pretty please have my first dance with VP Bad Ass? I promise to give him lots of ice cream!

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