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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:54 PM Dec 2014

Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage

It’s not a slowdown — it’s a virtual work stoppage.

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.

Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame.

Summonses for low-level offenses like public drinking and urination also plunged 94 percent — from 4,831 to 300.

Even parking violations are way down, dropping by 92 percent, from 14,699 to 1,241.

Drug arrests by cops assigned to the NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau — which are part of the overall number — dropped by 84 percent, from 382 to 63.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

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Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 OP
That is incredible. tridim Dec 2014 #1
Hmmm, maybe NYC doesn't need 35,000 cops. City council should discuss. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #2
Just pass a 3% income tax increase on incomes over 1 million to make up for the lost revenue. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #4
I have yet to hear about anarchy in the streets. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #6
You nailed it, Comrade Grumpy! SunSeeker Dec 2014 #32
Time for "right-sizing" the NYPD Daemonaquila Dec 2014 #37
Nonsense, I bet an appreciable percentage of the remainder is also bullshit. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #54
strike or go home. spanone Dec 2014 #3
Maybe the police shouldn't be used to generate revenue for the gov't. NOVA_Dem Dec 2014 #5
+35,000 Throd Dec 2014 #8
Less arrests also means less overtime $$$s for them as well. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #11
Yup! BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #15
extortion at gunpoint aka robbery nt msongs Dec 2014 #24
nailed it! nt ecstatic Dec 2014 #33
That's really all that the majority of "police" "work" really is. Asymmetrical taxes... villager Dec 2014 #45
Extortion is the word I was looking for BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #52
Bingo LittleBlue Dec 2014 #22
Is there a perception crime has gone up? daredtowork Dec 2014 #7
Good! 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #9
Republican playbook adapted by NYPD Triana Dec 2014 #10
That says a whole bunch, doesn't it? n/t dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #12
They'll soon start calling it "the de Blasio crime wave" progressoid Dec 2014 #13
As Martha Stewart might say, 'It's a good thing!' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #14
I was watching that show on Fox News today. ZX86 Dec 2014 #16
They'd best be careful. hunter Dec 2014 #17
Keep your bullet in your pocket, Barney n/t DefenseLawyer Dec 2014 #18
Every other mayor for decades has made peace with the police union Warpy Dec 2014 #19
Those involved in this should lose their job. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #20
So the cops are scared? Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #21
I notice the NY post put their little RW slant on the story. Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #23
NYPost loves cops Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #34
So IOW, 66% of their job is BS money raising revenue for the city? How surprising. Rex Dec 2014 #25
Imagine you live in Ferguson, MO and you are unemployed and barely surviving randys1 Dec 2014 #26
The crime of disenfranchisement on that scale in 2014 boggles my mind. Rex Dec 2014 #27
And on top of that you get shot in the head twice for jaywalking then allow a liar to randys1 Dec 2014 #28
Yeah or just standing on a corner you always hang out on Rex Dec 2014 #29
It pisses me off to no end, too...and it is gonna take white folk like us, not sure if randys1 Dec 2014 #48
Raising money for the police department. joshcryer Dec 2014 #43
Babies. lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #30
This is good news. The first step to reform is re-evaluating the job description ecstatic Dec 2014 #31
And while we are at it, we should change the name from "police" to truedelphi Dec 2014 #36
Really? Throw the people who pay your salary under the bus? Bad cop, no doughnut! Augiedog Dec 2014 #35
Unless I missed it bigwillq Dec 2014 #38
Looks like a 10% drop: joshcryer Dec 2014 #44
Cool. bigwillq Dec 2014 #46
Would like to see someone graph it out. joshcryer Dec 2014 #47
That's beyond my skill level. bigwillq Dec 2014 #49
Lets cut their salary's by 66%. Assholes. Classy as usual! nt Logical Dec 2014 #39
I'm bothered by the fact the police seem to act as one aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #40
Good -- less time dealing with trivial offenses, more time to protect and serve. QuestionableC Dec 2014 #41
on surface this is a good thing. However, any police who ignore clear cut violations like parking & Sunlei Dec 2014 #42
It's going to really suck for the NYPD.. sendero Dec 2014 #50
+10000! peacebird Dec 2014 #51
The NYPD culture is a mess. Vattel Dec 2014 #53
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
2. Hmmm, maybe NYC doesn't need 35,000 cops. City council should discuss.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:59 PM
Dec 2014

These are all "discretionary" policing arrests that aren't happening.

If those poor NYPD cops "feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety," maybe they should try other careers.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
37. Time for "right-sizing" the NYPD
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:55 PM
Dec 2014

You mean that 66% of your arrests were just harassment and bottom-feeding to meet a ticket quota? Thanks for the info - I guess that means we need a whole lot less of you cluttering up NYC. Buh-bye!

NOVA_Dem

(620 posts)
5. Maybe the police shouldn't be used to generate revenue for the gov't.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:03 PM
Dec 2014

The police are trying to harm the city budget by decreasing revenue.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
15. Yup!
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:38 PM
Dec 2014

Not shocked by this outcome at all. If these cops are arresting and ticketing people in order to pay their salary, that should be compared to institutionalized banditry, not peace keeping.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
45. That's really all that the majority of "police" "work" really is. Asymmetrical taxes...
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:16 PM
Dec 2014

...imposed on the most vulnerable...

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
52. Extortion is the word I was looking for
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:13 PM
Dec 2014

Corruption is the other!

I really wish there was some way to have a general rethink and rebuild of police and security in this country because it is definitely out of hand.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
22. Bingo
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:17 PM
Dec 2014

These so-called traffic violations are little more than a tax by other means. The worst are those cameras.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
7. Is there a perception crime has gone up?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:05 PM
Dec 2014

Or are the arrests not being made the arrests that were being fabricated to meet quotas before?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
9. Good!
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:09 PM
Dec 2014


NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent


Maybe they can now start fighting real crime instead of waddling their FAT asses around the city writing tickets all day, harassing street vendors, throwing pregnant women to the ground, beating up random protesters, beating up jay walkers, beating each other up, etc.















Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
14. As Martha Stewart might say, 'It's a good thing!'
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:26 PM
Dec 2014

Time to start laying off 66% of the force, since they're apparently unnecessary.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
16. I was watching that show on Fox News today.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:42 PM
Dec 2014

You know the one where you get to look up the skirt of a news model while she babbles nonsensical, right wing talking points. Oh wait, that's all them. Oh well anyways, the Fox liberal said that the work slow down doesn't hurt the mayor but the citizens they're sworn to serve and that they should do the job they were hired to do.

The other Fox News bunnies had a fit. Watching them sputter and spin their usual right wing talking point into something that resembled a logical, coherent thought was quite entertaining.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
17. They'd best be careful.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:33 PM
Dec 2014

People might decide they like it that way.

Our mid-sized city police force is chronically overworked and understaffed. They don't respond quickly to much of anything but active gunfights, bleeding victims on the ground, and physical assaults.

They are also known to be dangerously trigger happy with some propensity to shoot annoyingly and potentially dangerous mentally ill people.

I'm not sure, but maybe it's a good thing that most people in our city think twice before calling the police for any non-life-threatening emergency.

Who needs that sort of trouble?

I can go out and yell at kids who are tagging my property. I don't need police help for that. Sometimes I recognize the kids and call their mothers. My training and experiences as an urban school teacher were very useful.

Our police have a nice website to report minor incidents. If somebody throws a rock through your kitchen window, steals your bicycle, tags or dings your car, then you can report it on the police website and a nice community services officer will acknowledge it in a day or two and give you a case number that will satisfy your insurance company.

I think the U.S.A. in general has more police officers than it needs, and about half of them are rotten.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
19. Every other mayor for decades has made peace with the police union
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:00 PM
Dec 2014

by simply ignoring all the problems in the department.

I imagine this Lynch character is absolutely outraged that somebody is threatening his fiefdom by saying reform needs to be enacted. How dare he? He's only the stupid mayor. These are COPS he's talking about, the last bastion of civilization and morality.

Only they're not.

DeBlasio is the first guy with the guts to take those bastards on. I hope he calls in the Feds. I also hope he survives the effort.

In the meantime. New Yorkers can breathe a sigh of relief for a few days, knowing that the petty harassment will stop for a while and that children of color can walk to school without being slammed against a wall and frisked for dope.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
34. NYPost loves cops
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:51 PM
Dec 2014

explicitly, from their own admission

Gee, why would a newsrag owned by one of the world's wealthiest men have such a hard-on for cops? Hmmm...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. So IOW, 66% of their job is BS money raising revenue for the city? How surprising.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:24 PM
Dec 2014

I mean is that true or is there anarchy in the streets? Crime spiked up 100 fold yet? What say you NYCers?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Imagine you live in Ferguson, MO and you are unemployed and barely surviving
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:29 PM
Dec 2014

yet the police ticket you for everything imaginable.

And still that town is standing, amazing patience shown by the residents.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. The crime of disenfranchisement on that scale in 2014 boggles my mind.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:34 PM
Dec 2014

Can't afford to move, have almost no money due to excessive abuse by law enforcement and mere survival. Don't have time too much work and fear reprisal for complaining or just standing out in general. I'm sure it is 10X worse than I am describing for many.


randys1

(16,286 posts)
28. And on top of that you get shot in the head twice for jaywalking then allow a liar to
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:37 PM
Dec 2014

testify so you get off the shooter.

And this is what happened and NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT

Which is why I will neither be surprised or bothered if I wake up tomorrow, turn on the TV, and find out entire cities are burning.

Well, bothered of course because the racists (white people) could have prevented it and didnt.

Bothered because it does NOT have to be this way but certain people, now to include the NYPD are insisting it be this way...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Yeah or just standing on a corner you always hang out on
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:45 PM
Dec 2014

and the same group of white pigs that harass you daily , decide that day to choke you to death. A group of supposed humans watch video footage of this and say it was justified. Case closed.

Meanwhile, NYPD cops then act like a gaggle of spoiled five year olds and give a big FU to all of NYC at a funeral. Because a dad had 'that talk' with his black son. Which seems required in 2014 America.

It pisses me off to no end.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
48. It pisses me off to no end, too...and it is gonna take white folk like us, not sure if
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:24 PM
Dec 2014

you are but I am, to be pissed off.

White folk like us who are seeing much of this for the first time, at least on this scale, due to social media and camera phones and so on, have to finally put our butts on the line for the cause.

I know I am willing to do that.

I do admit I worry about the racists who are viciously violent

lpbk2713

(42,740 posts)
30. Babies.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:46 PM
Dec 2014



They might as well stay home and keep the fug out of the way if they're not going to do anything useful.




ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
31. This is good news. The first step to reform is re-evaluating the job description
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:47 PM
Dec 2014

of police officers. They should be restricted to dealing with emergency situations only. All the revenue-collecting schemes need to end. If our society decides that we absolutely must have someone overseeing traffic and parking violations, shift that role to a NON ARMED person (or just let cameras take over that job). If someone parks in the wrong place or goes 10 miles above the speed limit, they should not have to be confronted by an armed person.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
36. And while we are at it, we should change the name from "police" to
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:54 PM
Dec 2014

"Agents of the Corporate State" as that is what most police are really about 95% of the time.

And the other five percent of the time, they are about themselves. Like when they go in and steal property from someone whose house was abandonend temporarily, like right after a minor fire.

Augiedog

(2,543 posts)
35. Really? Throw the people who pay your salary under the bus? Bad cop, no doughnut!
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:52 PM
Dec 2014

Is this kinda like taking the entire populace hostage? Let us do whatever we want or else? Dumbasses.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
38. Unless I missed it
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:58 PM
Dec 2014

don't think the article said whether or not crime was down. That would be an interesting statistic.

I, for you, see the drops in summonses and citations as a good thing, as long as crime levels stay low or at average levels.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
47. Would like to see someone graph it out.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014

Just to make the point more clear.

Could also be associated with the general climate. Crime tends to drop after tragedy for whatever reason.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
40. I'm bothered by the fact the police seem to act as one
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:00 PM
Dec 2014

They all turn their backs to the Mayor. They seem to be trying to punish society as one by withdrawing their service and protection at the same time. I hate having the suspicion that they close ranks and hide criminals in their midst as one. I know individually that some of them are good. But it bothers me when they seem to act as if it's us against the world and close ranks within that blue line. When they're hiding the bad apples and extorting the public by trying to scare them when they stop fighting crime, I can't judge them as individuals. When they do this, they're all bad.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
42. on surface this is a good thing. However, any police who ignore clear cut violations like parking &
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:06 PM
Dec 2014

public drunks should be fired. On the other hand perhaps even those past violations (urine in public/public drunk/parking violations) weren't really true and police lied when they charged thousands of people for those violations.

If the NYPD all wore cameras we would have known by now and things would not have come to this.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
53. The NYPD culture is a mess.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:29 PM
Dec 2014

The real Serpico (not Al Pacino) says that NYPD cops today still snub him even though he revealed criminal corruption in the NYPD way back in the 1970s. I mean, some of the cops snubbing him today didn't even exist or were in diapers when Serpico exposed corruption, and there is no question that Serpico revealed criminal activity. So it doesn't surprise me that they are closing ranks and refusing to work with the mayor to make things better in NYC.

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