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maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:57 AM Dec 2014

For every dollar reduced in revenue due to the NYPD slowdown

$2 dollars should be taken from the NYPD Budget. Obviously, since the elimination of these nuisance citations hasn't led to the city going up in flames due to "increasing" crime, we don't need officers to harass people for having a broken tail-light.

If you ask me, funding a city through the revenue generated by fines for stupid non-violent stuff, IS NO WAY TO FUND A CITY.

Maybe a nice tax increase on the .01% to cover the lost revenue.

I just don't understand what the police unions are thinking. If you quit doing your job, and no one notices...maybe you weren't needed in the first place.

Maybe some of the "good cops" ought to have a little chat with the right-wingnut union leadership, because the "leadership" is making them all look like fools.

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NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
1. Communities need to stop relying on revenue from tickets anyway.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:00 PM
Dec 2014

It just creates an incentive to hand out tickets.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
2. When law enforcement becomes a profit center,
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:10 PM
Dec 2014

it becomes corrupt. Corrupt law enforcement is worse than no law enforcement.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
5. Absolutely true.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:01 PM
Dec 2014

The government of a Constitutional Democratic Republic such as the USA has no business declaring victimless actions as crimes either.

k&r,

-app

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
3. Alls Bill needs to is put a red light camera in every corner.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Then tell the cops to go jump in a lake. Revenue will increase substantially. Settlements for cop abuse will diminish.

The city's bottom line will improve.

If you goal is just to increase revenue, red light cameras are the way to go.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
13. The city is completely covered with cameras after 9/11
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:16 PM
Dec 2014

Not everyone knows about them and they don't feed to the police. But the system is already up and running.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
4. sadly it's not the citizenry that they are negotiating with, it's the mayor, who needs revenue.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:14 PM
Dec 2014

they know what they are doing. they are not reducing public safety, they are only reducing revenue. this is exactly the leverage they are looking for negotiating against the mayor.

i agree that it's the kind of "inside baseball" negotiating tactic that make for terrible p.r., but unless the mayor opts for a major confrontation, it will get them a negotiating edge.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. I doubt that he has the power but he should cut their budget and find another way of funding his
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:16 PM
Dec 2014

city.

This harassing of the black community to pay for city costs is no different than what is going on in Ferguson MO. And it is a tax on the poor. Communities years ago used to be called "speed traps" because they targeted travelers so they could use the fines to pay for city costs. That to is still going on.

It is a vicious circle: harass someone and then be surprised that they get angry so harass them for being angry enough to protest.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
11. yeah manhattan is a prime setup to extract fees from commuters, and tourists.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:23 PM
Dec 2014

take advantage of people who can't vote to take away your power.
parking tickets is their method of choice for that.

harassing selected residence is a somewhat different dynamic but a lack of political power is certainly a big factor.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. Absolutely correct
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:41 PM
Dec 2014

One of the parking meter Nazis gave me a ticket for having a clear license plate protective cover over my FRONT plate while perfectly legally parked in Hell's Kitchen. I swear, I will never go back to the city again. I don't give a shit how much entertainment they have to sell, I didn't need it when I lived in the Pacific Northwest nearly eight years ago, and I don't need it now.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
16. well, you're not likely to get a parking ticket if you take public transportation ;)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 04:02 AM
Jan 2015

or even a cab, which is usually cheaper than either a ticket or a brief stay in a parking garage.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
18. And neither thing is likely to happen
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jan 2015

I live about half an hour away from the city, so a cab ride would cost a fortune. Most public transportation is abysmal, so I'll just stay the hell away from the place, I really don't need it.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
8. And the fine citizens of New York
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:07 PM
Dec 2014

can now spend the money they won't be fined on goods and services.

This will increase tax revenue and keep private businesses afloat.

WIN WIN

brewens

(13,586 posts)
9. The part owner/manager at a beer distributor I worked for for years
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:11 PM
Dec 2014

has a worthless son that we all had to babysit. He was supposedly some kind of a warehouse supervisor or something, it was hard to tell.

Every single time he went on vacation, I'd wait until Wednesday or so and see his dad and ask, where's Hal (his kid) at? The dumbass would just say, he's on vacation, never realizing I was messing with him. Right over his head every time. Everyone else got it. It took three days or so to notice he was gone!

I can tell you it would be outstanding to see the people of NYC pull together and do their best to avoid any real trouble. Show that a drastic disarming and reduction in force is in order and start with the white shirt thugs!

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