Hillary Will Be the Democratic Nominee for the Presidency in 2016

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(Newb deliberately posting late at night so as to avoid eviscerative flaming. Just for the record. On the off-chance that some Whiteglove hasn't gotten me booted in the interim, I will kick this on the night of Secretary Clinton's acceptance speech at the convention. She has the money, the party establishment, and Bubba behind her. And although I'd love to teleport Sanders directly into the Oval Office, neither he nor Warren has the charisma that propelled Obama to Denver---and then DC---in 2008. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the next President of the United States, like it or not.)

[PowerToThePeople]

1. and

My poop will be smelly in the morning.

Like it or not.

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2. Yeah

Pretty much.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. If you eat a high fiber diet you can eliminate that problem

A healthy elimination should be practically odorless.

[riversedge]

3. I believe she will be IF she

decides to run. I do hope we have a primary. It would be good for the Dem. Party and the country to know her and others positions.

[marmar]

4. And how is Hillary anymore charismatic than Elizabeth Warren?

She comes across as stiff and pre-programmed a politician as there is.

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9. Hillary doesn't need to be more charismatic.

Warren or Sanders would need that something extra, like President Obama had, to overcome Hillary's well established standing.

[joshcryer]

12. How is Elizabeth Warren more qualified?

She was Republican until late adulthood. She got elected to the senate after much cajoling by the Democrats.

[Sherman A1]

5. Or

she will not. 24 hours is an eternity in politics.

It is a long, long way to the nomination.

You may be right, you may be wrong... time will tell.

[Scootaloo]

6. The fact that "like it or not" and "just accept it" keeps getting added to these proclamations...

makes it pretty obvious that even her supporters aren't real supportive of Clinton. if you have to attempt to browbeat people into accepting a not-yet-declared candidate, this early in the season... you're backing someone who can't win.

[LuvNewcastle]

7. plus a thousand

[joshcryer]

11. "early?"

We're a year away from the primaries. The next candidate must announce in 6 months, minimum. Period.

[WhiteAndNerdy]

8. I think you're right. nt

[joshcryer]

10. It will go to the archives before you can kick it.

Add it to your journal, I've done so with several predictions of this magnitude.

HRC will be the next Democratic Nominee for President.

[Prophet 451]

13. That assumes she runs

which she might not. Granted, I think she'll run but she could always decide against it. I think that, if she runs, she'll be the nominee. Whether she would win a general is where my Magic 8-Ball goes fuzzy.

[Recursion]

14. If she runs she will be a formidable candidate

Though I decline to predict that she will win the nomination at this point.

[Gman]

15. Obama was already running in 04

He gave a great keynote address at the convention. His star continued to rise after that. And at that time everybody knew Hillary was running in 08.

Nobody in the last 6 years has made any attempt to emerge as a leader and potential candidate to challenge Hillary. Everyone knows she's running in 16. It will be Hillary.

And she will win in November.

[Autumn]

16. Yes Hillary has charisma but sorry, that's not enough to get

her into the White House. Problem is she offers nothing to the people who need help the most. She may win the nomination but the president will be a republican, more than likely Jeb

[joshcryer]

22. Do you think Jeb is more qualified than Hillary?

Seems absurd.

[Autumn]

23. Jebs not qualified to wipe her ass, or anyone's ass for that matter.

Hillary will win the nomination but she will not win the White House. It absurd to think that she will win.

[joshcryer]

25. So Jeb will win being less qualified?

That seems absurd, even more so.

[Autumn]

26. Okay here, republicans will throw everything they can at her and the media will make it stick.

republicans will show up in droves. Democrats? Not so much. Your question is absurd.

[joshcryer]

32. The American people will want to elect a woman.

Unless the Republicans have a reasonably interesting woman candidate, it won't pass muster.

[Autumn]

33. Yes, but I seriously doubt they will want to elect Hillary. They didn't the last time.

[joshcryer]

34. They didn't want a woman last time.

[Autumn]

36. They wanted hope and change last time. Hillary can't play that, no one will fall for that

brand again.

[joshcryer]

37. So they'll vote for Jeb?

[Autumn]

38. Republicans, and probably some of those elusive independents will. Some

Democrats will go third party or stay home because they won't vote for Hillary I think this has been covered and I see no reason to keep answering your same old question framed in different ways.

[joshcryer]

40. White men will tell their wives to vote for the Republican.

They will not.

The Democrats who vote third party are irrelevant.

[Autumn]

41. Don't bank on that. Have you registered here in CO as a Dem yet? nt

[F4lconF16]

17. I think if she runs she very well might get the nomination

And that will be a very sad day for liberals. I will do everything I can to help a more progressive candidate win that nomination, because I don't think she has a chance in the general. Right-wingers will turn out in droves, riled up against the eeeeviillll Hillary Clinton (note: sarcasm). Meanwhile, Dems will lose the entire youth vote, because she and Bill haven't helped do a thing for students. She'll get torn apart in the general, and I *guarantee* she will steadily pull to the right while saying some nice sounding lefty stuff, thereby re-alienating the huge numbers of Dems that aren't voting because they're tired of neo-liberal corporate shit.

[RiverLover]

18. FYI - Hillary Clinton Will Never Be President

Hillary Clinton Will Never Be President. Her ship has come in, but has it also sailed? (Yes, it has)
12/3/14

Until recently, the conventional wisdom among Beltway elites was that Hillary Clinton would waltz, or at least walk unassisted, to the Democratic nomination in 2016. Now that narrative has come under attack, amid mounting evidence that Hillary’s most recent quest for power has already failed.

Consider, for example, the embarrassingly sparse crowd at Georgetown University on Wednesday, where Clinton delivered a lecture on “Smart Power: Security Through Inclusive Leadership.”

...This is precisely the demographic Hillary will have to turn out in large numbers to be successful in 2016. Anyone who thinks she can come close to inspiring the same amount of enthusiasm among people as Barack Obama is kidding themselves. In fact, Hillary has been struggling to draw crowds of all ages.

Gov. Deval Patrick (D., Mass.) has said the sense of inevitability surrounding Hillary’s candidacy is “off-putting to voters.” The American people view inevitability as a sense of entitlement, Patrick said on Meet The Press, and prefer candidates who make an affirmative case for themselves. “The American people want–and ought to want–their candidates to sweat for the job, to actually make a case for why they are the right person at the right time,” he said.

Meanwhile, recent polling suggests Hillary’s aura of inevitability is fading. She is only slightly ahead in matchups with potential GOP challengers with much lower name recognition.

...Financial Times columnist Edward Luce recently suggested that Hillary faces a “rickety bridge” to the White House, in part because “Democrats have remarkably little new to say about the future of America’s middle classes.” Hillary’s close ties to Wall Street and big corporate donors, Luce argued, will likely hinder her ability to “ignite the passion” of liberal voters, potentially paving the way for a populist challenger such as Elizabeth Warren....

http://freebeacon.com/blog/hillary-clinton-will-never-be-president/

[joshcryer]

19. Wishful thinking.

[Broward]

20. Great, perhaps she can run on her vote for the Iraq War.

[joshcryer]

21. Yes, she will run without apologies for Bush's war crimes.

Her position on the IWR vote was that Bush was a liar and a war criminal, which is why she will not and can not make any apologies for said vote.

[marmar]

30. Right. Like she'll call Bush a war criminal publicly.

Then I'm sure she'll demand that he face the International Criminal Court right?

[joshcryer]

31. Has any leading Democrat?

Warren? Hell, has Sanders?

No?

Clinton would be the most likely person to do so. Since, you know, the whole right wing conspiracy, and all.

[Douglas Carpenter]

24. I guess we have reached the point where primaries, caucuses, conventions and even elections

themselves are superfluous.

Is this what democracy looks like?

[99Forever]

27. Then the next President will be a Republican.

I guess that pleases some people. It doesn't me.

[brooklynite]

28. they don't need to be.....

All you need is a candidate who wants to run (eliminates Warren) and voters who want to support him/her (eliminates Sanders).

[Thinkingabout]

29. Hillary is qualified, has experience on the cabinet, has lots of foreign experience.

If she picks a VP like Sarah Palin then she could suffer a loss in the general but with the many great prospects I doubt this would happen. I know many continues to bring up the IVR vote and for a same similar reason on the other side the no votes by Warren and Sanders in the ISIS resolution will hurt them. Rove has his group trying to discourage Hillary from running because he knows the GOP does not have a candidate which can win easily against Hillary. For those who say Hillary is nit liberal enough sure do not know the records if Hillary, Warren and Sanders, Hillary and Warren is rated in the same spot and Sanders claim to Socialist is too far left for me. I am Ready for Hillary.

[LWolf]

39. I don't.

Like it.

And, that being the case, until it is forced down my unwilling throat at the '16 Democratic Convention, I don't accept that prediction, and I'll work like hell to make sure it doesn't happen.

If it does, I'll probably choke, regurgitate, and move on.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. That unstoppable train has has a jam packed baggage car that smells very bad. See IWR for sample.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

43. I like Hillary,

I think she would be a good President.