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[msanthrope]

1. You sound concerned. Please feel free to air more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt

[JI7]

5. hmm, is this the same person from last night

who was saying jews have money so attacks against them don't count or some shit like that ?

[msanthrope]

16. Who knows....now he's quoting GG's Twit feed, so that tells you where he's at, right there....nt

[msanthrope]

28. Um, sure. nt

[Egnever]

2. So?

?

[Egnever]

27. Again so?

We all have our limits.

Are you trying to imply he deserved to be shot for this?

[JI7]

3. what was the joke ?

[JI7]

8. i don't have time to read every fucking article linked to

why leave out the main point of what you are claiming in the subject line ?
'

[arcane1]

9. Why:

The OP doesn't want to own their own point, whatever that point is

[arcane1]

18. I think you are afraid to get around to making your point n/t

[Fred Sanders]

30. He was put on civil trial for this:

"Maurice Sinet, 80, who works under the pen name Sine, faces charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote last July in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo. The piece sparked a summer slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.

"L'affaire Sine" followed the engagement of Mr Sarkozy, 22, to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress of an electronic goods chain. Commenting on an unfounded rumour that the president's son planned to convert to Judaism, Sine quipped: "He'll go a long way in life, that little lad."

A high-profile political commentator slammed the column as linking prejudice about Jews and social success.

Charlie Hebdo's editor, Philippe Val, asked Sinet to apologise but he refused, exclaiming: "I'd rather cut my balls off."

...............

His article and cartoons in the magazine Charlie Hebdo relating to Jean Sarkozy's marriage to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress, touched off a controversy, after journalist Claude Askolovitch described them as anti-Semitic.[3] The magazine's editor, Phillipe Val, ordered Siné to write a letter of apology or face termination. The cartoonist said he would rather "cut his own balls off", and was promptly fired.[4] Both sides subsequently filed lawsuits, and in December 2010, Siné won a 40,000-euro court judgment against his former publisher for wrongful termination.


He was subsequently taken to court by the Ligue Internationale Contre le Racisme et l'Antisémitisme (LICRA), an organization which works to promote racial tolerance.

[Fred Sanders]

52. I have no idea...a Google search comes up empty....must have been dropped.

[arcane1]

7. I think a lot of jokes are funny, but I don't think every joke is funny.

That appears to be the case for the magazine, too. Sounds normal enough.

[arcane1]

12. You do realize that jokes/satire about Israel/Zionism have been published in that magazine

Right?

[msanthrope]

14. Oh dear Jeebus--you have to bring Greenwald's trash feed here???? nt

[msanthrope]

25. Oh shit--that's the thread you pulled? There's at least three more barn burners I could direct you

to.

[Tarheel_Dem]

38. Deploying GG's twitter feed, at this point, means you probably won't get thru to that one.

But best of luck to you anyway.

[msanthrope]

45. I miss Whisp!! nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

47. You & me both. n/t

[arcane1]

61. You have said nothing either, except "read the article".

[msanthrope]

64. Absolutely. Welcome to DU!!!! nt

[JustAnotherGen]

69. You must have missed his big entrance

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026002062

[msanthrope]

70. I love performance art. But I have to ask my 11 year old who the hell those gals are. nt

[JustAnotherGen]

72. Ahhh this one is a real rip doozy!

Skip asking the kids and go right to a Pat Benatar, Bessie Smith, Edith Piaf, Joni Mitchell, Sasha Lazard, Tori Amos, Adele, Whitney Houston, Indigo Girls cd!

[arcane1]

20. It beats having to answer for themselves, I suppose

[Rex]

23. Yes and Snowden says Russia is a great place for freedoms!

“Russia…[has] my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, [Russia has] earned the respect of the world.” — Edward Snowden

So if you are SO against apparent hypocrites...what is your view on THIS statement? Gonna condemn Snowden right? I mean, fair is fair right?

I'll wait.

[Rex]

11. Oh gosh, The Telegraph...why not just post something from Foxnews?

Did you know The Telegraph is a right-wing rag?

[Rex]

17. You want me to fly to the UK to find out for you first hand?

Fact - the rag you are posting so proudly from supports right wing ideology. Now if you do too, please just admit to it and not hide behind anonymous posts.

Thanks.

[cyberswede]

48. Maybe because "Before It's News" would have been even sillier?

http://beforeitsnews.com/new-world-order/2015/01/in-2009-charlie-hebdo-fired-cartoonist-for-anti-semitic-cartoon-3428.html

[Donald Ian Rankin]

66. Right-wing, but not a rag - it's a respectable broadsheet with whose politics I disagree.

Its standards of factual reporting are reasonably high, which I believe is not true of Fox News.

[cyberswede]

21. Maybe he was fired because he was charged with a crime?

From the link:

French cartoonist Sine on trial on charges of anti-Semitism over Sarkozy jibe
A Left-wing cartoonist is to go on trial on Tuesday on charges of anti-Semitism for suggesting Jean Sarkozy, the son of the French president, was converting to Judaism for financial reasons

Maurice Sinet, 80, who works under the pen name Sine, faces charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote last July in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo. The piece sparked a summer slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.

[arcane1]

26. This happened in France. They have their own laws over there n/t

[arcane1]

34. I read the article. I'm waiting to read your point n/t

[cyberswede]

31. What I think about the charge is irrelevant

I merely wondered aloud if the charge had anything to do with his firing.

Your OP looks a lot like this one on Before It's News, btw.

http://beforeitsnews.com/new-world-order/2015/01/in-2009-charlie-hebdo-fired-cartoonist-for-anti-semitic-cartoon-3428.html

[cyberswede]

39. What argument was I making?

I only wondered if that was why he was fired.

[Fred Sanders]

33. That one line sentence had him go to trial on hate speech?

[arcane1]

36. So, his boss fired him for not apologizing. What's your point?

I'm failing to see any relevance in your OP, just an excuse for you to be hostile.

[Fred Sanders]

40. He was never charged with a crime, he was sued in civil court.

[Fred Sanders]

43. What did he say to be sued in civil court for inciting hatred....??

[cyberswede]

44. Why are you asking me?

[cyberswede]

50. WTF are you talking about?

[CrawlingChaos]

35. K&R

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. Yeah. Oh, and welcome back!

[Tarheel_Dem]

53. Well, at least you're right about GG. That's something at least.

[Fred Sanders]

54. 3) He was fired for the hate crime he was never charged with, criminally. A civil suit was filed and dropped...

[cyberswede]

57. You could reply to arcane1's questions about your point. Your're oddly silent there.

Maybe then you could display your skills as a master debater.

[arcane1]

60. Indeed, how does one "debate" without a position to debate from?

They're so clever!

[cyberswede]

62. flamme appāts

[arcane1]

63. En Effet. Pour remuer la merde.

[Iggo]

55. Did they kill him?

[pennylane100]

56. If you are saying that the magazine had a double standard

about the subjects of their articles, I have no idea if that is true or not. However, if you are trying to find a reason to view the murdered victims in a less favorable light, that is just plain disgusting.

Twelve people were murdered for what they wrote, whether the material was biased or not (and again I have no idea). It certainly has no bearing on this crime and it does you no credit to post in now.

[cyberswede]

58. ^this.

Thank you.

[closeupready]

67. I believe the point is that those who hold "Islam" (as if referring to a human person)

to a higher standard are being bigoted. Far from disgusting, it serves to help support the idea of Freedom of Worship, and thus liberty.

It's convenient for bigots to claim that this story has no bearing on anything, so that they can, minutes later, impugn the character of millions of muslims everywhere and anywhere, by association.

[Tarheel_Dem]

73. Thank you.

[whatchamacallit]

59. Interesting...

All over DU Charlie Hebdo is being portrayed as a level playing field, an equal opportunity hater. I'm not all that familiar with their work, so this may be true, but from the examples I've seen so far there seems to be a slant or bias. I have seen the toilet paper illustration, but it doesn't really compare to the bullet-riddled Muslim, does it? Maybe I'm wrong, but it reminds me of Bill Maher's "equal" disdain for all religions.

[closeupready]

68. Yes, agreed. Burying this story helps bigots attack muslims for sharing

a religion with the terrorists involved in this massacre while also holding that the West is not bigoted.

[closeupready]

65. Sorry that, by casting light on truth, you've stirred up a hornet's nest, but

I have to say I agree. I raised this story before, and nobody wanted to respond because it is an uncomfortable truth.

K&R

[zappaman]

71. yeah so?

welcome back to DU!