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"It was Anwar al-Awlaki who financed me." (Original Post) arely staircase Jan 2015 OP
Thanks arely :( Cha Jan 2015 #1
more than a few had a real problem with President Obama removing that particular enemy from the arely staircase Jan 2015 #3
Yes, I know.. poor Awiaki.. ******* monster. Cha Jan 2015 #5
I'll just leave this here... zappaman Jan 2015 #14
I never figured out if the naive bit was an act with thar one nt arely staircase Jan 2015 #35
Hard to tell, ain't it? zappaman Jan 2015 #36
check out this thread JI7 Jan 2015 #2
I had forgotten how shrill Greenwald's defense of that terrorist was. arely staircase Jan 2015 #4
Thanks for the link back to that, JI7.. I just posted arely's update on Anwar al-Awlaki on there. Cha Jan 2015 #7
These guys were undoubtedly liars, poseurs. earthside Jan 2015 #6
cnn reporting it is believed one of the brothers Said (sp?) went to Yemen and met with al-Aelaki arely staircase Jan 2015 #9
Too bad the brother wasn't with him when the drone strike happened. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #12
yes. and arely staircase Jan 2015 #13
They trained years ago. nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #10
Kouachi went to Yemen in the summer of 2011, meeting Awlaki then. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #19
Al awlaki was obviously a terrorist operative to geek tragedy Jan 2015 #8
Well, that would be Glenn Greenwald, who apparently relied on the Bush Administration's assessment msanthrope Jan 2015 #25
I think if Obama had it all to do over again, he;d have killed al-Awlaki sooner if possible. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #11
The FBI tried arresting him in 2002....but the Bush Admin didn't move fast enough, and he got to the msanthrope Jan 2015 #26
I can't get the OP of this thread to even admit Awlaki was a terrorist..... msanthrope Jan 2015 #15
Some people inhabit a different reality... zappaman Jan 2015 #16
No shit. It's a yes or no question---"Is Awlaki a terrorist?" And I get some blither about Bush's msanthrope Jan 2015 #17
Can't say I blame the poster. zappaman Jan 2015 #18
I think I'm just going to ask the question every single time they ask a question of me. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #20
that one thinks 3.2 billion Americans watch rt. nt arely staircase Jan 2015 #21
Okay...that made me laugh....but on a serious note, I'm getting tired of terror-apologia. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #22
I hope we can put the al-Awaki was murdered business away arely staircase Jan 2015 #23
Check out this truthtopower. msanthrope Jan 2015 #24
the Awlaki apologists are as thin skinned as the Putin apologists arely staircase Jan 2015 #28
TODS msanthrope Jan 2015 #31
#5 made me laugh. zappaman Jan 2015 #39
I think the claim is strange too Renew Deal Jan 2015 #27
Yes, summary execution is so efficient gratuitous Jan 2015 #29
Serious props to you for the allusion to Sir Thomas More's speech (in Bolt's "A Man KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #30
Why do you think Awlaki didn't get due process? The mistake of law and fact I see most on this msanthrope Jan 2015 #32
or in al-Awlaki's case, death on the field of battle he himself chose. arely staircase Jan 2015 #33
Certainly stopped terrorism not. Octafish Jan 2015 #34
The terrorists in France had no problem with it Renew Deal Jan 2015 #41
i'd like to point out Enrique Jan 2015 #37
unfortunately not arely staircase Jan 2015 #38
No, it did not.. but the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki was certainly justified. Cha Jan 2015 #42
boy they held onto that money for a looong time. how many years ago m-lekktor Jan 2015 #40

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. more than a few had a real problem with President Obama removing that particular enemy from the
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jan 2015

battlefield. Frankly, smoking Awlaki was probably one of the president's best calls.

Cha

(297,039 posts)
7. Thanks for the link back to that, JI7.. I just posted arely's update on Anwar al-Awlaki on there.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jan 2015

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. These guys were undoubtedly liars, poseurs.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:07 PM
Jan 2015

Anwar al-Awlaki has been dead since September 2011.

I think they were trying to inflate themselves into 'mythical' status for other extremist jihadist murderers.

I doubt al-Awlaki had anything to do with planning or financing what happened in France in the past couple of days.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
9. cnn reporting it is believed one of the brothers Said (sp?) went to Yemen and met with al-Aelaki
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jan 2015

shortly before Obama droned him.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
12. Too bad the brother wasn't with him when the drone strike happened.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jan 2015

Of course, then he'd be numbered amongst the "innocents murdered" along with the terrorist.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Al awlaki was obviously a terrorist operative to
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:12 PM
Jan 2015

anyone who didn't have their head in the sand or between their own butt cheeks.

Offing him was the right call. That is what happens to enemies.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
25. Well, that would be Glenn Greenwald, who apparently relied on the Bush Administration's assessment
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jan 2015

of Awlaki in 2001 to judge his status as a non-violent cleric.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. I think if Obama had it all to do over again, he;d have killed al-Awlaki sooner if possible.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jan 2015

There was absolutely nothing at all wrong with the targeted killing of that terrorist.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. The FBI tried arresting him in 2002....but the Bush Admin didn't move fast enough, and he got to the
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jan 2015

UK, then Yemen.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
17. No shit. It's a yes or no question---"Is Awlaki a terrorist?" And I get some blither about Bush's
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jan 2015

Imperial Presidency back.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
23. I hope we can put the al-Awaki was murdered business away
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jan 2015

The guy was an enemy fighter actively engaged in asymmetrical warfare with the US. Obama smoked his sorry ass with a drone. He put out a hit list with the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists on it years ago. He got what was coming tob him. Fuck him and his apologists like Glenn Greenwald.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. Check out this truthtopower.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jan 2015
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I can't get the OP of this thread to even admit Awlaki was a terrorist.....
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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
28. the Awlaki apologists are as thin skinned as the Putin apologists
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

probably because they are the same people. I can't believe someone alerted...... well, yeah I can.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
27. I think the claim is strange too
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jan 2015

If true, does that mean that there is terrorist seed money out there? Are people taking years to patiently prepare attacks?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
29. Yes, summary execution is so efficient
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jan 2015

That whole "due process" concept is sooo overrated. And the winds that now blow with the laws cut down are easily weathered by those who have wielded the scythe. The rest of us? Well, ask the guys at Charlie Hebdo.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
30. Serious props to you for the allusion to Sir Thomas More's speech (in Bolt's "A Man
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

for All Seasons&quot :

Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!
More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

~Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons



 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
32. Why do you think Awlaki didn't get due process? The mistake of law and fact I see most on this
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jan 2015

board is the presumption that the due process that Awlaki was entitled to involved an Article III court process while he was a fugitive.

Nothing could be further from the law, and the truth.

As a non-custodial active member of AlQaeda, Awlaki deserved kill or capture. Had he turned himself in (and let's not forget the Yemeni murder conviction) he would have been entitled to all the protections outlined in Boumediene v. Bush.

Let me ask you something---when you get a parking ticket, does your due process rights mean you get an attorney? A grand jury? Or, is your means for redress---your due process--- different than if you commit a felony?


arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
33. or in al-Awlaki's case, death on the field of battle he himself chose.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jan 2015

Despite that advantage (see Sun Tzu on choosing the field of battle) Obama's advantage of superior technology and communications won the day. Very simple really.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. Certainly stopped terrorism not.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jan 2015

Thanks to the War On Terror™, there are more terrorists than ever.

As for Civil Liberties, due process and the U.S. Constitution: Haven't you heard? All that is Old School. Get with the Program or you'll be reported.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
40. boy they held onto that money for a looong time. how many years ago
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jan 2015

did Obama have Alwaki executed? anyway blame the dead man who isn't around to stick up for himself!

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