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[Avalux]

1. 3...2...1.....

Tolerance is a good thing. All the way around.

[NaturalHigh]

2. I absolutely condemn the senseless killings in Paris.

That doesn't mean that I have to be especially fond of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.

Oh, and I've certainly never been accused of being a Jihadi or a lefty.

[PeaceNikki]

5. "I am Charlie" is not about approval of what they published.

But about their human right to not be fucking murdered for publishing it.

[NaturalHigh]

7. I understand that, and I agree completely.

I don't have to like the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo to defend the right to publish them.

[PeaceNikki]

8. Of course you don't. that's the point of "I am Charlie".

[Desert805]

13. Exactly.

Thanks for making the point much more eloquently than I.

[NuclearDem]

3. This'll end well.

[Skittles]

4. now you're going over the top

there's DUer who don't seem to understand the concept of condemning violence END OF STORY but they're not "Arabic language jihadi board" folk

[Desert805]

10. Maybe a little over the top...

about as much as denouncing murdered political cartoonists, really.

[cwydro]

6. Before you vanish Desert...

this is a discussion board.

We may disagree on this board, but calling any longtime DUers "jihadis" is a bit over the top.

I won't alert, because these things are educational sometimes lol.

But someone else will. So see ya round.

[hrmjustin]

9. So those of us that find those cartoons to be disgusting don't belong here?

[Desert805]

11. Those that state "I am not Charlie" offend me.

As is their right.

This is my reaction. To also offend, I guess.


*shrug*

[hrmjustin]

12. I denounce these murders and they did nothing to deserve it.

But as I said before I can not associate myself with those cartoons.

[Desert805]

16. Fair enough 100%

You don't have to like the cartoons-- but "I am Charlie" is about their right to publish, and recognizing the horrible wrong of being murdered for your opinion. Any opinion.

[DeadLetterOffice]

14. "Arabic language jihadi board" -- seriously?

Hyperbole much?
Not to mention needlessly demonize your fellow DUers?
Yikes.

[Desert805]

18. Well...

Those boards exist.

Directing DUers there is a little hyperbolic, of course.

[brooklynite]

17. Well, I am Charlie and I'll challenge your assertion

I believe that everyone should stand with Charlie Hebdo as a statement that ideas, even ugly ones, should never be suppressed. However, I do not accept that anyone who disagrees with me on this point belongs on a "jihadi board". I will however support your right to make such an ugly and simplistic statement.

[Desert805]

19. Nailed it.

That is the exact response I would hope for from anyone. Everyone.

Much respect.

[uppityperson]

20. You say you support the right to an ugly statement, yet want those who make what you consider an

ugly statement to go to a "Arabic language jihadi board" as "DU is the wrong place"?

You support the right to say ugly statements, but if you disagree with someone saying "I am not Charlie", DU is the wrong place, a "jihadi board" is the right place?

[LeftyMom]

21. I'm not willing to identify with anybody who portrays black people as monkeys,

kidnapped Nigerian children as enormously pregnant welfare recipents shouting for their checks or draws images of Jews that look like Nazi propaganda.

I also don't think being a racist asshole is a death penalty offense.

I'm not going to beatify dead racists either.

Nuance. It's a thing. You should try it. Sometimes there are situations where everybody involved is a dick.

[HereSince1628]

22. That level of certainty seems like pretty deep manichaeism for DU

Conservatives and fundamentalists love things that are clear black and white

They don't deal well with complex problems that support competing views

google Jost et al on political conservative as motivated social cognition


People who are tolerant, a basic characteristic of liberalism, can grasp the idea that complex problems can contain more than one truism and truisms can seem to compete.

Pluralistic, multicultural societies depend on tolerance for coexistence.

The right of self-expression is essential to an open society but it depends upon tolerance

banning people for different beliefs is intolerance that in the end extinguishes opportunity for pluralism in what is expressed