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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPastor: I punched a kid ‘as hard as I could’ for ‘not taking the Lord serious’
Source: Raw Story
Pastor Eric Dammann begins by saying that he met a young man in Calgary named Ben, who was a nice kid, but one of those he was a real smart aleck. He was a bright kid, which didnt help things made him more dangerous.
We were outside one day at youth group, Dammann continues, and he was just trying to push my buttons. He was just kind of not taking the Lord serious [sic].
So I walked over to him and went BAM! Punched him in the chest as hard as I could. I crumpled the kid. I just crumpled him.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/pastor-i-punched-a-kid-as-hard-as-i-could-for-not-taking-the-lord-serious/
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)20 years is what he deserves for that act of child abuse.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)What a piece of excrement.
TheBlackAdder
(28,697 posts)yuiyoshida
(42,339 posts)Right here....agreed he should be in prison.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Coventina
(27,653 posts)lame54
(36,340 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)hatrack
(60,368 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Every bit as much as Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong were real atheists, who showed the world what atheistic regimes are all about, right?
Oh wait; they weren't "real" atheists. I forgot.
lame54
(36,340 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)
a preacher punching a kid to convert him is apropos in some fashion. I don't see it, but whatever floats your boat.
Edit: On second thought, these three may have a great deal in common.
Mariana
(14,914 posts)makes what this preacher did better, somehow. Or it proves he isn't really a Christian. Or something.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever claimed that Stalin and Zedong weren't really atheists?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)You can welcome or dismiss members, at will, and move on.
When you are persecuted and vulnerable, you've got to jump through hoops and walk on hot coals, blindfolded, hands tied behind your back, in recompense for the crimes of those who are just as loosely associated with you - religiously - as this DB is with other xtians.
Skittles
(157,118 posts)as deluded as ever
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)did the same thing then I will accept that this is part of Christianity and not some small penis perv having a go at a kid who couldn't hit him back, using blasphemy as his cover for doing so. This fat fucker is a child abuser and nothing more. Nothing he believes or teaches in the bible. I would love to see people become responsible for their own lies and bullshit without it being transferred to Jesus who would have flogged this fucker for doing this. People who do stupid, evil or vile shit while using Christianity as their shield and excuse are not Christians. They are blasphemers, liars and cowards. He is not a Christian and nothing he did or probably believes matches the teachings of the Rabbi. NOTHING.
I do recall when the Romans came to take him in Gethsemane he prevented his men from causing a blood bath in the course of trying to save him from it.
lame54
(36,340 posts)"we'll take credit for the good stuff
but any problems - don't look at me"
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)choices. Its called being an adult. There is zero texts to back the shit that people attribute to Jesus. He wasn't even alive when this religion was created by Saul/Paul who used to hunt him.
Everyone uses something to justify their bullshit. Republicans use Rand and the Bible and anything else they can. But in the end its just feathers on a duck. Covering up the choices they make as individuals to protect their sorry asses for their personal behavior.
There is nothing written that is by Jesus himself that supports anything they say and do. They use him as their beard.
COP OUT! Really? Since when is someone who never said anything responsible for someone else's bullshit just because they say they do it for him? I get it. You hate religion but the statement stands. You will NEVER find a single word said by Jesus that supports the corrupt bullshit of these idiots. They use him like they use everything else for their own advancement. Shame on their sorry asses that they made Jesus bear the burden of their hatred and racism and bullshit.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)Still, I think he was worshiping his god in his own fashion. I'll leave it at this: Some religious ideas suck more than others.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 11, 2015, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Paul alone using someone he never met. He created it decades after the murder of Jesus by the Romans. It isn't his religion. It is Paul's. No one seems to know much about the origins of Christianity but everyone has an opinion. Even the family of Jesus wanted to punch Paul in the face. Christianity isn't the creation of Jesus. He is the focus of it but he didn't create it. Paul did. Everyone who uses things for their own purposes is responsible for that. Repubs use what Paul said about a man he never met, who had BIG differences with the family of Jesus including James, his brother and they twist it.
What else is new? But they own what they do and say, not anyone else. Anyone can use anyone else as a beard for their hatred and behavior. Jesus is abused all the time this way.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,354 posts)punching people in the chest until they wised up. Works every time.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)MineralMan
(147,084 posts)for assaulting a minor that way. I see that he was not. Jesus did not say, "Suffer, little children," asshole.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)so beat them down. Crumple them for Jesus.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Hekate
(93,669 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)to be taken in by dogma and lies, they deserve to be beaten into submission.
Arkansas Granny
(31,732 posts)I also note that he considered this boy to be "dangerous" because he was a "bright kid". I guess it's easier to keep them subordinate (and filling collection plates) of they're not too bright.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Bet he says the story was made up when confronted.
Punch a kid for Jesus!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)This piece of crazy human-garbage should be in jail.
If I would have been in that church (Which would never happen), I'd stand up and call that shitbag every derogatory name in the book.
calimary
(83,516 posts)Religious tyranny. Religious brutality. Religious terrorism.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)It amazes me how some people dare call themselves Christians when they do exactly the opposite that Christ would do in similar situations - situations that have been well written about. In detail. What is the term given to those who do the opposite of Christ again? That's what this Pastor should be labeled as.
Bagsgroove
(231 posts)Exactly my thoughts.
There's a quote attributed to Gandhi (possibly apocryphal) that I love -- "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)He was absolutely correct, and I still paraphrase his quote whenever I come across a few anti-abortion, anti-immigration, and anti-civil rights posters who then claim to be 100% Christian. I don't tend to get a response back from them. I wonder why?
SamKnause
(13,613 posts)encouraged and financed in this country.
The action described in the video is child abuse.
This country is going down a dangerous path.
Religious indoctrination is
encouraged and financed within all branches of the U.S. military.
When you have to force, coerce, threaten, punish, abuse, harm, beat, punch, hit, slap, etc. or brainwash to expand, defend, or enforce your beliefs it is abuse.
It is a cult.
Pile on.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)NOT pile on, but agree wholeheartedly.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Using violence or threats of violence to achieve political goals.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Love = Hatred.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)and it's valued over reason and logic and science. But, if people buy into silly mythologies from primitive people, they'll buy into almost anything. They are easier to lead by the nose.
SamKnause
(13,613 posts)It is so frustrating and frightening the power 'faith' has over the masses.
I have to keep reminding myself that the year is 2015.
We live in a world where facts are denied.
Education is considered dangerous.
'Gods' instruct people to run for political offices.
States where Atheists are forbidden to run for office.
Bibles in the classroom.
Scriptures on military gun barrels.
The list goes on and on.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)And the "faithful" don't like it. Not one bit. Thus all the "don't be rude!", "keep it to yourself!" and "militant!" comments thrown at atheists. On the other hand I've got religious people coming to my door to tell me my beliefs are all wrong, but apparently that's completely acceptable.
SamKnause
(13,613 posts)The Faithful don't like the Internet.
The governments of the world don't like the Internet.
They are terrified all their lies will be exposed.
I told the last group of Mormons who knocked on my door that I was an Atheist.
So far, no return visits.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)led by the nose into this crap, and many at the top get their kicks out of their persecutory behavior and a mindless flock praising them. And, it's a great place for abusing sociopaths to rise to the top.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)SamKnause
(13,613 posts)"Which didn't help things."
"It made him even more dangerous".
I think you have that ass backwards you sick, twisted, evil person !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
louis-t
(23,495 posts)beating a child until he 'gets' religion?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Of course
It'll lead them to the Lord.
What a fucking piece of shit. I'd press charges based on this confession. We have a place and now all Ben has to do is to press charges with his parents.
I hope they put him away for it.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)And then we have yet another set of parents who claim to be confused as to why their son doesn't talk with them or see them anymore.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)If you're bigger, and hold a position of authority, it's okay.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This guy is an idiot on so many levels it's stupefying.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Or perhaps a gas chamber or a syringe.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,604 posts)a-hole.
shraby
(21,946 posts)for assault. Where were the child's parents in all this?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,986 posts)It has come to my attention that George Zimmerman does not take the Lord seriously. Perhaps you could go work your magic on him?
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Good way to get your ass kicked where I come from...
unblock
(53,925 posts)ly?
Enrique
(27,461 posts)you know what happens to smart alecks? Bam!
?1
Paladin
(28,619 posts)...ought to be reported to the authorities. If this is the sort of thing this guy does to a "smart aleck," it's a safe bet that other very bad things are happening.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:30 AM - Edit history (2)
They don't take kindly to bully's.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)While we can all agree that violence is wrong - the kid should have been respectful of the pastor's faith and not spoken to him in a way that was disrespectful.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,354 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Meant to be a parody of some of the arguments seen regarding the cartoons.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,354 posts)Otherwise I'd be kind of worried.
MineralMan
(147,084 posts)That church should dismiss him summarily.
surrealAmerican
(11,459 posts)He should be looking for someone to bail him out of jail, and maybe a lawyer to defend him against criminal charges.
I guess this kid's parents love their "faith" more than they love their child, or this matter would have been reported to the police. It's a real crime. This man is a danger to the community.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Of course, he had to spend a lot of time working out at the gym and sparring with the apostles in preparation for the big matches. And, his agent got a big cut of the winnings.
LeftishBrit
(41,295 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)[p]because no sane human will act like that. Call yourself a pastor and you carry this kind of rage? Will like to know the type of people that sits and listen to his sermons.
Disgusting filth.
frogmarch
(12,215 posts)and deliver it BAM! with a punch in the chest.
Effin weirdo. He needs to be locked up.
Hekate
(93,669 posts)Who would Jesus assault? Aside from the money changers, that is.
uppityperson
(115,725 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)into people. WTF?
Judi Lynn
(162,032 posts)What a shame there are sociopaths who go to listen to them.
He has no honor, no common sense, no respect for children and their parents, no dignity, no faith, not to mention clues about the teachings of Christ.
Initech
(101,178 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Guy should be in jail. And thanks for pointing out smart people are considered dangerous by that particular church.
avebury
(11,035 posts)to 3 articles on the incident. I hope that they will have a chat with the bully Pastor.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Iggo
(48,098 posts)You might be on to something here.
Vinca
(50,770 posts)He ought to go to the big house and punch a few heathen inmates in the chest.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)leader of the church does. Reverend is a title of respect for the degree he/she has earned. But Pastor is the term that denotes his/her the concern and love for people - he/she is the shepherd.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Anyone?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)his sideline and a cover. I do wonder what else he's been up too. Society takes too much of this crap in the name of their god. He's not alone IMO, there are a lot like him.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)violence should be expected, the kid should have known, should have shown respect. These OP's, they don't condone violence....but....they are not sure where they come down on murdering people in cold blood because you feel slighted by some barb or criticism.
oneview
(47 posts)"for not taking The Lord serious" --
Child abuse and grammar abuse! Now lets see if some oh-so-sophisticated descriptivist will come in to defend this particular new barbarism.