I just returned from a week in Paris

[leftieNanner]

Being in the City of Light - which is so joyous and sparkling during and after the holidays - was wonderful. And then it all changed last Wednesday with the brutal and obscene shootings. We stayed in that night, but we had to go to Notre Dame on Thursday morning for a minute of silence and shared mourning. It was raining and we grieved at the horror of what happened. I left my daughter there for a college semester abroad and I pray for her protection and for the healing of the French people.

[NYC_SKP]

1. Prayers for your daughter, and for the French people, and indeed the entire world.

This event impacts us all, and the sting of it resonates beyond French borders, like ripples, to every corner of the globe.

[MrMickeysMom]

2. May we appreciate the way real democracy works...

I've been reading about the biggest demonstration in French history. Persons who had not protested for a long time "had to" return to the streets.

[Sopkoviak]

3. So it took a shared disgust for Islam to drive people into the streets

Well, whatever works I guess.

[leftieNanner]

4. I don't think that was the feeling at all

I spoke to many people during the days after the attacks and it was not "shared disgust for Islam".

[underahedgerow]

5. There is no "shared disgust for islam" here in France.

There is a shared, communal thought that opposes violence and terrorism, and that supports equality and liberty for all. It's just as simple as that. Thank Voltaire for that premise.

Those 3 f*****s that commited these atrocities don't represent the common beliefs of any religion, just the sick and twisted aberrations of their own small, miserable minds.

After all, they killed and died for a cartoon, nothing more.

[leftieNanner]

17. I agree. France is not like that.

Thanks for standing up, Hedge. The people of Paris were open, friendly, welcoming, and inclusive. The diversity in the city is wonderful. My husband and I are talking about renting out our home here in Oregon for a year and renting an apartment in Paris for that same time when we retire.

[uppityperson]

6. THAT is what you think this demonstration was about? Shameful

I guess those Muslims who helped the hostages, and the Muslim police officer who was murdered, and their families, and those who were involved with rescuing the victims, and all those participating in this demonstration were disgusted with themselves?

Seriously? Shameful.

ETA, previous alert left your post 3-4. It would be interesting to see the reasoning.

[Sissyk]

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[uppityperson]

10. Thank you, I appreciate your posting that.

His post does not surprise me, but it is very wrong.

[Sissyk]

13. You're welcome.

Me neither, and yes.

[adirondacker]

12. Heated Topic? Looks like we got some freedom fry nibblers on DU. Shame. nt

[oberliner]

7. A shared disgust for Islam?

That's what you think the rally was about?

[Fearless]

9. Bullshit.

[Violet_Crumble]

18. No, this rally was about unity. Yr looking for the PERGIDA anti-Muslim rallies

They're far, far smaller, and are easy to spot because of the fascist atmosphere. Just look for things like famous cathedrals turning their lights out in protest when those hatefilled fuckers march, and you've found what yr looking for.

[MrMickeysMom]

19. That's the problem with some people...

Their idea of suppressing democracy and a shared disgust of an ethic group get a little mixed up.

A shared disgust for Islam would be prejudiced. I'd wager the disgust would be more properly aimed at the small group of persons, regardless of race, who terrorize the rest of us. The majority of the nation of Islam seems pretty disgusted over this, right along with the REST of us (except you, perhaps).

[Surya Gayatri]

20. You are utterly, completely and categorically wrong.

You have missed the point and obviously have no idea what happened all over France yesterday.

Quote from my reply to another thread:


"During yesterday's National March for Unity all over France (I happen to live 2 minutes from the Place de la Nation, the final destination of the rally), thousands and thousands of improvised banners and posters said: "Je suis Charlie, Je suis Policier, Je suis Juif, etc.--I am Charlie, I am a Police Officer, I am Jewish, I am Muslim, I am Atheist, I am Ahmed (murdered Muslim policeman) I am Yohav (murdered Jewish shopper)."

Des manifestants agitaient des drapeaux français et la foule a chanté la Marseillaise. Quelques personnes ont aussi chanté "Merci M. Chalghoumi", du nom de l'imam de Drancy qui était présent.

http://www.rtl.fr/actu/societe-faits-divers/video-fusillade-a-charlie-hebdo-hassen-chalghoumi-ce-sont-des-diables-7776131601

[appalachiablue]

11. How great that you saw the City of Light at Xmas, sounds wonderful. I went

in summer several times, what a truly magnificent, magical city. The shooting event was a horror, we'll see how things progress. Your daughter should have a marvelous time there. Some favorites were the Musee D'Orsay, Rodin Museum, Louvre, Picasso Museum, Victor Hugo house; day trips to Monet's home at Giverny, Versailles, Chartres and Normandy. Cambridge is where I did a semester abroad, very interesting, saw much of London thanks to the train, and took the ferry across the Chanel to see Paris for the first time. C'est magnifique.

[leftieNanner]

15. We did some of those...

Rodin, D'Orsay, Pompidou, brasseries, cafes, left bank bars, Galleries Lafayettes, Bon Marche, Luxembourg Gardens... We did so much together. As my husband said to me, an opportunity to spend 10 days with your 20 year old daughter will not come again. So I went with joy. And she has so much more to see.

[uppityperson]

14. Thank you for your report. I hope, beyond the heartbreak and fear, that you had a good

time there and best wishes for your daughter. What a great place to do a semester. Does she stay in Paris for the entire time?

[leftieNanner]

16. Her semester with her college is in Paris, but..

she has plans to visit a school friend who is doing a similar program in Barcelona. Who knows where she will go during her breaks? Italy, Switzerland, The Netherlands (The Keukenhoff is pretty spectacular in May). She is living with a family as opposed to in a dorm. Her French will be very good five months from now. Thanks for your support. I love DU!