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The Missing Pages of the 9/11 ReportThe lead author of the Senates report on 9/11 says its time to reveal whats in the 28 pages that were redacted from it, which he says will embarrass the Saudis.
Eleanor Clift - DailyBeast
01.12.15
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A story that might otherwise have slipped away in a morass of conspiracy theories gained new life Wednesday when former Sen. Bob Graham headlined a press conference on Capitol Hill to press for the release of 28 pages redacted from a Senate report on the 9/11 attacks. And according to Graham, the lead author of the report, the pages point a very strong finger at Saudi Arabia as the principal financier of the 9/11 hijackers.
This may seem stale to some but its as current as the headlines we see today, Graham said, referring to the terrorist attack on a satirical newspaper in Paris. The pages are being kept under wraps out of concern their disclosure would hurt U.S. national security. But as chairman of the Senate Select Committee that issued the report in 2002, Graham argues the opposite is true, and that the real threat to national security is non-disclosure.
Graham said the redacted pages characterize the support network that allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur, and if that network goes unchallenged, it will only flourish. He said that keeping the pages classified is part of a general pattern of coverup that for 12 years has kept the American people in the dark. It is highly improbable the 19 hijackers acted alone, he said, yet the U.S. governments position is to protect the government most responsible for that network of support.
The Saudis know what they did, Graham continued, and the U.S. knows what they did, and when the U.S. government takes a position of passivity, or actively shuts down inquiry, that sends a message to the Saudis. They have continued, maybe accelerated their support for the most extreme form of Islam, he said, arguing that both al Qaeda and ISIS are a creation of Saudi Arabia.
Standing with Graham were Republican Rep. Walter Jones and Democratic Rep. Stephen Lynch, co-sponsors of House Resolution 428, which says declassification of the 28 pages is necessary to provide the American public with the full truth surrounding the 9/11 attacks. The two lawmakers echoed Grahams assertion that national security would not be harmed, and point out that on two separate occasions President Obama has told 9/11 families that he wants to see the pages declassified. Jones and Lynch wrote a letter to Obama in April urging him to take action, and have been told by the White House that a response is in the works.
The purpose of the Wednesday press conference was to put pressure on the White House by building bipartisan support in the House and Senate. Any member with a security clearance is able to read the redacted chapter in a closed room, albeit under supervision and with no note taking and no staff. Its a cumbersome process, and most members havent bothered. The relatively few who have read the pages come away with varying levels of shock and surprise. Lynch said he was so blown away that the information was being kept from the public that he told the two room monitors he would be filing legislation. HR 428 had 27 co-sponsors in the last Congress.
Among the attendees at the press conference was...
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CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)but I'm not sure it'll provide the full story.
But getting more information is always a good thing.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)That's a thread that if pulled, leads all the way home.
MuseRider
(35,176 posts)Exactly and well said.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)SA was just a tool.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)You know they're involved.
no doubt
From the warnings given Pres. Bush prior to 9/11:

To the lack of response on the part of the president when informed the country was under attack:

To the action to fly all members of the Saudi Royal Family out of the US in the day(s) following 9/11:

To the admission by Bush that he saw the first plane hit on a TV while waiting to go into the classroom:
etc., etc. etc.,...
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ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)to cover for his Saudi friends, I think his family would/will have to move there, convert to Islam and fight extradition.
I wonder if Idi Amin's apartment is still available?
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)Figured he and Cheney would've skipped years ago. Shame on us for allowing them to stay ... oh, wait, we had to "move on."
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)with Blackwater manning the turrets
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...that the Bush Cartel actually bought the land in Paraguay that sits on the biggest aquifer in Latin America and is reportedly next door to Rev. Moon's compound. The likely CIA involvement in the ouster of the elected leftist president of Paraguay, Fernando Lugo (the beloved "bishop of the poor"
, and installation of a rightwing government--recently--makes me think that they did, indeed, purchase this land. Paraguay wouldn't be much of a safe haven for our fascist oligarchs with the country's president being leftist and truly elected.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)The Blue Flower
(6,492 posts)this info is just the beginning of the truth
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It's long time past when this report should have been released. Graham was on RNN over a year ago talking about the report and trying to get support for release. He said he's tried to get the information out there piecemeal in his fiction books hoping people could draw the conclusions he was not allowed to talk about. I think he hoped that if he got out on the MSM he could nudge Obama and other Reps. But, I only know that he appeared on RNN (and maybe "Democracy Now"
I wonder if the MSM will cover it. I don't watch it so I won't know...but, assume they are 24-7 with "Terror Attack" and so it will get ignored even though this Attack should be all the more reason for MSM to call attention to releasing the report.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)made a complete turnaround after seeing so many bodies of his constituents coming home from a war that was supposed to last 'months, weeks maybe'.
He then joined with Kucinich to try to end the funding for that war.
He feels betrayed, I imagine as he actually believed Cheney/Bush.
Glad to see Grahan has not forgotten his outrage over this war.
I hope others will join them. The more we know, the better.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)his Freedom Fries idea so he knew they would not be happy with his change of heart. I remember he cried when he talked about the lives lost.
Not sure what his constituents think of him, but he's still there so I guess they weren't as angry as we thought they might be at the time.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I think the Right really believed we would go there, for a few weeks, as Rummy promised, take out the 'bad guys' and come home.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)The Repubs tried to knock him out with a TeaPartier this last mid-term...but, he held on. He's very popular with the military because he's fought for them in legislation on Vet's issues.
He's terrible on social issues (Right to Choose, GLBT) but he is principled about abuse of power issues and is against endless wars through interventions. He's not a Grandstander who talks out both sides of his mouth and he will break with his party and vote with the Dems when it's an issue he has deep convictions about.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)someone who has some principles than anyone who has none.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Thanks sabrina 1. That's really fascinating. As yes, as you say 'the more we know, the better.'
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Bush/Cheney better run. If this opens PNAC, old Jeb will have some splainin to do too.
Gumboot
(531 posts)I wanna hear about his declaration of Martial Law in Florida on 9/7/2001.
The corporate media completely ignored his tearing up our Constitution, just four days before the 9/11 attacks.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Neil de Grasse Tyson said on one of his radio shows that there are some people that believe only what is comfortable for them. Those that disparage CT and whistle-blowers fall into that category, which IMO takes a conservative mind.
We need to know what happened on 9/11.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)This is part of the usual government corruption and lies, taken to the extreme.
I hope they release the report. The Saudis aren't our friends and the US shouldn't cover for them.
progressoid
(53,179 posts)I can see the media completely ignoring it.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)After reading it, Congressman Thomas Massie described the experience as disturbing and said, I had to stop every two or three pages and rearrange my perception of history its that fundamental.
The official 9/11 story is the keystone to the police state. Pull it, and the whole thing falls apart.
http://28pages.org/
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Thanks for posting WillyT. I've known about the Saudi link, but others don't. The truth needs to come out as soon as possible.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I want to read them in full, no spin. I'm sure many others do too.
Baitball Blogger
(52,350 posts)to cover it up was the unprecedented high amount of settlement money that was handed to the relative survivors. Those settlements put an end to any discovery process that a civil lawsuit would have instigated.
Obama was covering this up. (sic)
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)These pages have to be released for the good of the entire world. You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free.....
aggiesal
(10,806 posts)I would like to see the transcript of Bush & Cheney's testamony in front
of the 9/11 presidential committee.
You know the one where Bush ignored the subpeona to testify unless
Cheney held his hand, and only 1 stenographer and no notes for the
committee.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)the agreement that they would not testify under oath? But that wasn't the least bit suspicious to the mainstream media. Why? Bush and Cheney just had so much integrity as to be above suspicion?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)
Same BFEE crowd and no one went to jail then, either.
I wonder if it's NSA or MOSSAD (probably both) who've got the donkey pictures?
wavesofeuphoria
(525 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)
johnnyreb
(915 posts)The good Senator Bob Graham and the congressmen are imploring us to help by demanding our representatives to READ The 28 Pages.
mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals. Osama bin Laden was one, too. Many wealthy Saudis (beyond Osama) have connections to terrorism. That doesn't mean that the entire royal family-which has 15,000 members, just as an FYI-is personally involved, or that any of the top leaders of Saudi Arabia had any foreknowledge about 9/11.
It's just as likely that the Saudi military and intelligence services were infiltrated by al-Qaeda and similar groups. There's a lot of sympathy for them in the Saudi population. And I remember reading in the 9/11 Commission Report and other sources that many of the Islamic charities in KSA were fronts for Al-Qaeda.
I have a hunch that, in the personalistic Saudi culture, it would be very easy to exploit the extensive support networks that were available to Saudi nationals. I don't think active support was always necessary for Al-Qeada to thrive in Saudi Arabia. More like passive neglect/indifference from the regime. Before 9/11, bin Laden wasn't even super-well known-to say nothing of most of his followers.
Though I do agree that the Saudis have a lot to answer for, I just don't know how much they were actually aware of what some of their citizens were up to before 9/11. And even after 9/11, there's still a big divide between the Wahhabi hard-liners and the moderates within the Kingdom-a divide that is present among the royal family, too.
It's a complicated, frustrating situation.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)and are intimately connected to the Saudi royal family.
The bin Laden construction company is the largest in the world.
The name recognition of that family in the ME is instantaneous. They certainly are not minor players. Osama bin Laden was a huge figure in jihadist movements and was most certainly recognized on the street as a major player - both because of his massive personal wealth and also because of his connections.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)nt
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)And fortune, is naive Imho. OBL was obscenely rich on his own.
They're global players at the highest levels with a contact list you can't imagine.
Osama certainly exploited that, and his family's connections to the royal family. When intelligence agencies speak of the Saudi Royal family subsidizing terrorists, it's absolutely because of the connections OBL initially provided.
He was instrumental - both covertly and overtly.
OBL's sermons were also famous in their own right even before 9/11. They could be found (still can be found) in the streets of pretty much every ME market square - while "we" may not have heard of him, he was a powerful force in the Salafist movement. It's why he was the CIA's guy in Afghanistan against the Soviets.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)but it's not true. Or at least, there's little to no actual evidence for it. Osama exaggerated his own role in Afghanistan, and it was Saudi and Pakistani intelligence who had contact with him-not the CIA.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040402021951/http://foi.missouri.edu/terrorintelligence/ghostwars.html
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)yeah right.
I'm done for the night. Feel free to have the last word.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)You don't think that the Saudi 'royals' knew what their 'black sheep' was doing? That's ridiculous.
It is NOT complicated; it is top-down bloody tyranny--and it is only frustrating if you're trying to justify the close U.S. alliance with one of the most controlling and repressive regimes in the world--a country where a man was recently sentenced to ONE THOUSAND lashes for criticizing Islam! He will die in torture for having an opinion! That "complicates" things for the U.S. State Department and the U.S. "military-industrial complex." The complication of egregious hypocrisy and lies!
The U.S. should LONG AGO have shut down all commerce with Saudi Arabia! There is nothing "complicated" about it. They are extreme violators of every value we hold dear--that is, that our people hold dear, and that the people of all civilized countries hold dear. Don't know about our leaders any more. What do they hold dear? Money. Oil. Power.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)mean, like a CONSPIRACY???
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)attended a performance or party sponsored by Prince Bandar not very long after the 9/11 tragedy.
The Bushes and the Saudi royal family were on good terms before and after 9/11. Do you recall that the Bin Laden relatives in the US were allowed to leave the country with only brief questioning after 9/11?
There is controversy over exactly when their flight left. I remember reading about it in I think, the Orlando Sentinel.
Small details many of which I do not remember clearly enough to list them here pointed toward some sort of foreknowledge if not complicity about 9/11 perhaps inadvertent complicity or cooperation with the terrorists on the part of the Saudis way back in 2004 when I looked into certain facts about the Bushes.
The chapter in the report should be published if only because there may be misinformation out there, inaccurate information, that should be clarified. History is based on rumor, guesswork and conspiracy theory when the truth is suppressed. We have no reason to protect either the Saudis or the Bush family. Let the truth be told. It is the best way to end unsubstantiated rumor.
I do advise reading Suskind's book: The Price of Loyalty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Price_of_Loyalty
The book is much more interesting than the Wikipedia article suggests.
Lars39
(26,540 posts)I'm still kicking myself for not saving the photo and caption of them all together.
My pet theory is that Dubya got shipped to the Saudi Royals for a few summers in his teens.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Most people believe that the 28 pages are damning to Bush-Cheney et al. The Saudis asked for the release ten years ago!
gordianot
(15,772 posts)I also remember a radio news broadcast several days before the attack on 9/11 warning of possibity of air hijacking by terrorist. I have looked for years for that source and never found it. My first thought on hearing of an attack on the.World Trade Center was that random broadcast on my 1 hour commute. Apparently any discussion Of 9/11 is rapidly squashed.
El Shaman
(583 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)The 2003 letter-signing effort was led by New York Senator Chuck Schumer, who persuaded 43 fellow Democrats to join him, along with Republican Sam Brownback and independent Jim Jeffords.
Caretha
(2,737 posts)If you seek you will find.
It is so obvious. But we must not question.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)spanone
(141,628 posts)Kablooie
(19,108 posts)Big Oil is behind it.
It's probably something they've held over the Saudi's head all these years and now that the Saudi's aren't protecting Big Oil profits they've decided to threaten to let it loose.
There is speculation that US oil is working with the Saudi's to drop the price of oil so Russia's exports will be hurt but I seriously doubt that our oil companies would sacrifice their profits and risk lowering of government handouts to help US political goals.
If prices start shooting up again soon, the report will be locked away again where no one can see it.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that U.S. Big Oil is working with Saudi Big Oil to bust Russia. Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro, said just that a few days ago, and of course included Venezuela as an additional target. Venezuela, even more than Russia, is dependent on a fair price for oil, since most of Venezuela's "common good" programs--education, health care, etc.--are financed by their oil sales, especially since Chavez renegotiated the oil contracts with the multinationals (giving Venezuelans a much better deal).
It would be U.S. Big Oil's dream come true to bust both Russia and Venezuela. (Exxon Mobil has a particular hatred for Venezuela's leftists due to those renegotiated contracts, which Exxon Mobil rejected, and then tried to take punitive measures against Venezuela.) More even than installing Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld in power here, and getting to gouge the U.S. military for oil, and getting to force oil contracts on Iraq, their next big dream is this: destroying their rivals. I'd guess they would take a big temporary hit in profits to accomplish this. Exxon Mobil, for instance, is the RICHEST CORPORATION ON EARTH. And the Saudi 'royals' are certainly not paupers--and it could well be that they are motivated by the desire to suppress their complicity in 9/11--that this is a threatened disclosure and won't occur if they do U.S. Big Oil's bidding.
Anyway, it is always wise to think many layers deep when it comes to 9/11. The Oil Wars are the ugliest, most abysmal spectacle of human behavior since the Crusades, and perhaps of all time--since in this case our very planet is at grave risk, and all that these zillionaire hustlers and their bought-and-paid-for governments can think of is OIL--control the last oil!--and POWER. It's quite sickening and it might be the end of us all. Never underestimate the depravity of the Oil Barons!
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)led up to it.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)And W's dumb guy routine was just a bit, an act.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)He nailed that role.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)hootinholler
(26,451 posts)Bastard.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We know what they did. We know. It's not a conspiracy theory if it is true. They HAD TO steal the 2004 election.
lark
(26,081 posts)Him unilaterally changing the rules so that no Saudi Arabian national was to be stopped from coming to America due to being on the terror list is what created the conditions that allowed 9/11 to happen. Several of the people that flew the planes were on the terror watch list but were allowed unfettered access to the US after Bush signed the order.
So, of course, the ultra rich are protecting the ultra rich Bushes by hiding the information that shows that GW was a true traitor.
red dog 1
(33,063 posts)Thanks also to Bob Graham and Representatives Walter Jones & Steven Lynch.
I hope House Speaker Boehner allows an up or down vote on HR 428, because it should have enough votes from both sides of the aisle to pass in the House
The Senate....who knows?
Hopefully, this is one issue that both Republicans and Democrats can agree on.