Jeremy Scahill on Paris Attacks, the al-Qaeda Link & the Secret U.S. War in Yemen

[2banon]

Fascinating interview and informative...

Unable to post the video on this site, but you can watch or listen to the interview here with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! aired yesterday January 12th.

[sabrina 1]

1. Thanks for the link, always interested in what he has to say.

[2banon]

5. Goodman mentioned that Dirty Wars received an Academy Awards Nomination.

That's interesting and awesome. I haven't yet seen it. Got to put on my netflix list when it's available.

Yes, Scahill is on my top tier of real journalism list.

[Octafish]

2. Now THERE's a Journalist.

Thank you, 2banon!

EXCERPT...

AMY GOODMAN: Where was he held?

JEREMY SCAHILL: He was held in a political prison inside of Yemen, in Sana’a, Yemen. And, in fact, I reported in my book that when the Yemeni government wanted to release Awlaki, that John Negroponte, who at the time was a senior counterterrorism official under the Bush administration—and, of course, one of the butchers of Central America during the 1980s—John Negroponte had a secret meeting with Bandar Bush, the Saudi diplomat very close to the Bush family, where he—and the Yemeni ambassador, where John Negroponte said, "Our position is that we want Awlaki kept in prison until all of these young Western Muslims forget about him." This is a U.S. citizen who was being held in a prison in a human rights-violating country on very flimsy charges that he had intervened in a tribal dispute, and a senior official intervenes to say, "We want our citizen kept in your prison without any trial for five years, until people forget about him."

When Awlaki eventually was released, he was a totally changed man and began increasingly to cross the line from praising people fighting against the United States, in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere, to actively calling on people to come and, as he put it, fight on the fronts of jihad in Yemen or elsewhere or in your own country. And this is where he really became considered to be a significant threat by the United States, that his words—not his actions, but his words—were going to inspire lone-wolf acts of terrorism inside of the United States.

And when he really rose to international prominence was in November of 2009, when Army Major Nidal Hasan, who was a U.S. military psychiatrist that had petitioned to try to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes after they described to him what they had done in Afghanistan and elsewhere, he—Hasan had written—

AMY GOODMAN: This is at Fort Hood.

JEREMY SCAHILL: This is at Fort Hood, Texas. Nidal Hasan had written to Anwar al-Awlaki a number of times, praising Awlaki, offering to give Awlaki like a human rights prize of $5,000. Awlaki writes back to him and says, "Give it to the orphans and widows." Awlaki basically was treating Hasan like kind of a disturbed character. But if you read media accounts today about Anwar al-Awlaki, they say he directed the Fort Hood attack. The declassified emails, that the U.S. government has declassified, between Anwar al-Awlaki and Nidal Hasan do not show that at all. In fact, they show Nidal Hasan as sort of an unstable stalker who’s trying to get Awlaki to like him, and Awlaki is sort of dismissing him.

Now, was Nidal Hasan inspired by Anwar al-Awlaki’s preaching and teaching to do what he did at Fort Hood? Absolutely, no question whatsoever. Anwar al-Awlaki was clearly saying—and Awlaki, in the aftermath, praised it and said, "What Nidal Hasan did was right, but I didn’t tell him to do it." And Awlaki was not a guy who wouldn’t claim responsibility for things that he actually did. He admitted that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was one of his students. Now, that could mean something very serious. It could mean that he was a student, and he said, "Hey, to do something like AQAP wants you to do, to try to blow up this airplane, is acceptable under Islam, because they’re attacking us, and under these codes of the Sharia, it’s fine to do."

But to say someone directed a plot, in the case of the underwear bomber or in the case of Fort Hood, that’s just not proven. And if we want to say that we live in a society based on the rule of law, if there’s all this evidence that Awlaki was operational within al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, why did the United States never charge him with a crime? If I were a prosecutor, I would have tried to indict Anwar al-Awlaki for directly threatening the life of this American cartoonist in Seattle. Why was he never indicted? We indicted Osama bin Laden. We indicted John Walker Lindh. Why would they not indict Awlaki? If all of this evidence that The New York Times and The Washington Post and CNN now today claim that the U.S. has had for a long time, why was there never an indictment on Anwar al-Awlaki? What did the president of the United States serve as judge, jury and executioner of an American citizen? Why did the United States advocate for a human rights-abusing government to have one of their citizens placed in prison for indefinite detention, when he hadn’t yet been charged with a crime by the United States?

CONTINUED...

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/1/12/jeremy_scahill_on_paris_attacks_the

This is information on which the future hinges.

[2banon]

3. Indeed, all of those pesky un-answered questions American Media never, ever ask.

Because it just might give a much fuller context to which all of these events are directly connected, yet referenced as random violent "acts of terrorism" as if to explain what the fuck has been going on and why.

why did the United States never charge him with a crime? If I were a prosecutor, I would have tried to indict Anwar al-Awlaki for directly threatening the life of this American cartoonist in Seattle. Why was he never indicted? We indicted Osama bin Laden. We indicted John Walker Lindh. Why would they not indict Awlaki? If all of this evidence that The New York Times and The Washington Post and CNN now today claim that the U.S. has had for a long time, why was there never an indictment on Anwar al-Awlaki? What did the president of the United States serve as judge, jury and executioner of an American citizen? Why did the United States advocate for a human rights-abusing government to have one of their citizens placed in prison for indefinite detention, when he hadn’t yet been charged with a crime by the United States?

[Octafish]

19. The dog being wagged...

...may be the BFEE Hound. The turds, through the Brothers Dulles, seized control of the national security apparatus in 1951 and have yet to let go -- and may never let go, thinking it's their birthright. Weird thing is, I believe they're in the thrall of blackmailers from the Middle East -- Saudi (cough Safari Club) and Israeli (cough October Surprise cough Iran-Contra) and both (cough September 11/Permwar for Permaprofits). So, Democracy has to think about that. We would, too, if we weren't so busy getting spied on by the NSA. Sure hope the drones stay pointed overseas.

[Maedhros]

18. Thank you for the transcript.

Scahill is our best source of information on the political situation in the Arabian Peninsula.

[Jim Beard]

4. Corporate Media refusing to show new cover of Charlie

You know, the ones that are people too.

[2banon]

6. Not surprised. If our citizens haven't learned who owns the media and understand the implications

of what that actually means.. well that's an indicator in itself of how events will unfold in the future. which by the way includes election engineering here.. It's all one and the same.

Bullshit on History, Bullshit on current events, Bullshit on the socio-economic "state of the union" , etc. etc. etc.

[KingCharlemagne]

7. Good ole' John Negroponte. Big surprise that his name figures in

this . . . NOT!

[2banon]

8. What's that saying? He just keeps showing up like a 'bad penny" ..

not sure that's the correct euphemism, certainly too kind.

as aside, did you know he boasted in a public talk several years ago (I think it was back in 2004-ish) given at Hofstra University of being the author of NAFTA.. it shouldn't have surprised me, yet somehow it did.


Edit to add, he and Kissinger two peas in the same pod. I'm not religious, but if I were I'd say may they die and rot in hell forever and ever.

[msanthrope]

9. Fuck this liar....Scahill is a terrorist-apologist for the worst scum. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

12. An attorney calling someone else a liar. How nice.

I think Scahill is great. As Sid says, he seems to be pissing off all the right people.

[neverforget]

16. Nailed it!

[wildbilln864]

14. yes he rocks!

[neverforget]

15. Care to extrapolate?

[JonLP24]

10. They still call it a Secret US War

I'm not sure what it is about but I can tell you giving Saudi Arabia money & weapons links to everything else "Wahabbi".

[deutsey]

11. I heard most of it yesterday...good interview

Thanks for posting!

[2banon]

13. Yes..

[Maedhros]

17. More from Scahill

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026080775

(from here: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/12/the-paris-mystery/ )

[neverforget]

20. He's a good journalist.

I need to buy his book Dirty Wars.......