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PCIntern

(25,533 posts)
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:22 PM Jan 2015

Late this afternoon, outside the window of my office,

Last edited Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)

a 20 year-old woman plunged to her death from an eighth floor window, striking a passerby and injuring her badly. At first, we thought it was a suicide, but later reports are that she may have been cleaning her window. This was one of the most horrifying moments of my life, and in addition to the blanket horror and terrible irony, it shows how quickly everything in your life can change, even fade to black. Imagine the sudden realization that one has lost ones balance and falling inexorably and inevitably to the ground below in just a couple of seconds, knowing that you are going to die, having no thought of that just prior.

I have to have a drink and take it easy…this is going to give me nightmares for a long, long time.

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Late this afternoon, outside the window of my office, (Original Post) PCIntern Jan 2015 OP
Horrifying, indeed. MANative Jan 2015 #1
Inky says she might've been taking photos w/her cell phone. Demit Jan 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Jan 2015 #19
It might be kind to self-delete. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #36
Done. nt TexasTowelie Jan 2015 #38
Oh Dear! 2naSalit Jan 2015 #2
My dear PCIntern... CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2015 #3
It's very likely marym625 Jan 2015 #87
This is just terrible. Obviously tragic for her, and so traumatic for you. RiverLover Jan 2015 #4
"Appreciate more, Love more, it can be gone in a flash" indeed, RiverLover. My ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 #82
and this is why I never clean my second story windows. hollysmom Jan 2015 #5
Sending PumpkinAle Jan 2015 #6
Just terrible. It's been 20 years since a man leapt to his death from an overpass in front of me blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #8
My sister-in-law knew that man. Terrible, indeed. callous taoboy Jan 2015 #47
says she may have been taking photos Skittles Jan 2015 #9
How awful LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #10
This happened to one of my former students last year... jimlup Jan 2015 #11
People get up in the morning and put their clothes on, with no idea that they won't be here NBachers Jan 2015 #12
yup, no one is guaranteed another day and you never know what could happen Skittles Jan 2015 #17
As Jim Morrison said SCantiGOP Jan 2015 #70
At least in THIS form... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #77
Holy shit! Initech Jan 2015 #13
Oh my good lord... a la izquierda Jan 2015 #14
... Aristus Jan 2015 #15
I'd be shaking for days if I saw that rurallib Jan 2015 #16
((((((((pcintern))))))) please take extra good care of yourself for the next little while, and know niyad Jan 2015 #18
I never saw an accidental death MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #20
What a terrible, sad thing to witness marym625 Jan 2015 #88
It was behind us, so we heard it but didn't see it. MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #95
wow. marym625 Jan 2015 #96
How awful. As to what might go through your mind at such a moment... Marr Jan 2015 #21
I was at one point convinced I was going to die when caught in a sudden unexpected snowstorm ND-Dem Jan 2015 #23
Huh. F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #59
guilt is normal when we survive something marym625 Jan 2015 #90
With traumatic injury, one reaction can be the brain speeding up pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #26
so glad you were able to get out of that marym625 Jan 2015 #89
This is terrible, and I saw a similar thing. kwassa Jan 2015 #22
What a horrible accident for all. Take care. Life is so precious & 'here today, gone tomorrow' sadly appalachiablue Jan 2015 #24
Good heavens, how awful for all involved. So sad. My Nay Jan 2015 #25
My son is a glazer and used to install windows in high rises. RebelOne Jan 2015 #27
PCI, I'm so sorry. Take care of yourself, please, after this traumatic experience Hekate Jan 2015 #28
... magical thyme Jan 2015 #29
How awful. Life is so fragile. After 9/11, I was traumatized Flatulo Jan 2015 #30
Life is precious SHRED Jan 2015 #31
(((((shred))) praying for peace and comfort for you and your friend's family. niyad Jan 2015 #62
Thank you SHRED Jan 2015 #72
I'm so sorry for your loss marym625 Jan 2015 #91
How awful. It is a horrifying thing to witness something like that. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #32
All it takes is a single little mistake to fall ErikJ Jan 2015 #33
This is devastating. Mira Jan 2015 #34
Question is why Temple University has dorm room windows... Historic NY Jan 2015 #35
Uh-Oh... I smell a lawsuit coming VScott Jan 2015 #40
It is an apartment over a store. PCIntern Jan 2015 #43
it was an Art Institute of Philadelphia dorm room TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #80
Virginia Tech had a student fall out of a very tall building while blind drunk Recursion Jan 2015 #45
Being drunk had little to do with it. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author deutsey Jan 2015 #50
it was a dorm room of the Art Institute of Philadelphia TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #81
Wow. I just watched "Dark Passage" recently. That's creepy. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #37
The local news here in SF never covers the Golden Gate Bridge jumpers. Too upsetting. displacedtexan Jan 2015 #39
You'll be fine. These things remind us that life is so wonderful and precious. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #41
.... spanone Jan 2015 #42
Thanks, everyone. Nt PCIntern Jan 2015 #44
This became a top story on KYW early this morning BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #46
Second time for me PCIntern Jan 2015 #48
My thoughts go out to you. BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #49
thanks, fellow Fluffian! (that's a former's mayor's pronounciation PCIntern Jan 2015 #65
That's what I call our accent BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #68
Twice even! TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #83
twice. marym625 Jan 2015 #92
I feel for you.. I saw a horrible bicycle accident earlier this week. tridim Jan 2015 #51
Oh, PCI, how devastating... coffeenap Jan 2015 #52
i understand....sadly unionthug777 Jan 2015 #53
Oh I'm sorry! Pls don't hold it in. tblue Jan 2015 #54
Reading your story reminded me of... Oilwellian Jan 2015 #55
so sorry Oilwellian Skittles Jan 2015 #73
I'm so sorry for your loss marym625 Jan 2015 #76
Sorry if this falls into the category of morbid curiosity but what floor were you on? randome Jan 2015 #56
My first deep reflection on the fragile nature of life packman Jan 2015 #57
This is being covered by Huff Post now Quixote1818 Jan 2015 #58
my first semester of college, we were studying as a group for midterms in bio GreatGazoo Jan 2015 #60
Oh geez! MynameisBlarney Jan 2015 #61
Usually I would post something funny, at least to me; greiner3 Jan 2015 #63
I'm sorry to hear about Mbrow Jan 2015 #64
Welcome to DU, Mbrow. calimary Jan 2015 #85
Well said. marym625 Jan 2015 #93
I've never witnessed anything as shattering as that. But what I experienced is how DUers responded calimary Jan 2015 #99
I'm so sorry for your loss. marym625 Jan 2015 #100
It was awhile ago. So whatever hurt I'm still dealing with is slowly subsiding, thankfully. calimary Jan 2015 #101
so true. marym625 Jan 2015 #103
That's terrible, please find a good trained person to talk to about this right now drynberg Jan 2015 #66
Hugs and I can't imagine... LittleGirl Jan 2015 #67
This isn't TV Nac Mac Feegle Jan 2015 #69
Oh my MissDeeds Jan 2015 #71
Yes…turned out she was attempting to take a photo... PCIntern Jan 2015 #74
I can relate to both you and the person that fell marym625 Jan 2015 #75
That is a superb post and sentiment. PCIntern Jan 2015 #78
Thank you very much marym625 Jan 2015 #79
Hi, PCIntern. I am so saddened to read this. I cannot imagine the horror this woman ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 #84
How horrible marym625 Jan 2015 #86
Horrible! I'm going to have a drink with you on this one. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #94
Weirdly it is now being reported that on her FB page was PCIntern Jan 2015 #98
that is horrifying Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #102
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
7. Inky says she might've been taking photos w/her cell phone.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jan 2015

Poor thing. Poor pedestrian too.

(ETA: Oops sorry, meant to reply to OP.)

Response to Demit (Reply #7)

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
36. It might be kind to self-delete.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jan 2015

Someone posts about how traumatizing it is to have witnessed someone falling to their death and you turn it into a joke?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
3. My dear PCIntern...
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jan 2015

How truly horrifying indeed. I hope she lost consciousness before she hit...

Here's a big hug and some warm vibes for you...I hope you can get through this without trouble.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
87. It's very likely
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jan 2015

She won't remember. Our brains protect us from such horrors. Though when a crime is involved and the memory is important to a conviction, that can be a bad thing, in cases like this, it's a godsend.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. This is just terrible. Obviously tragic for her, and so traumatic for you.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:38 PM
Jan 2015

Here's another {{hug}}.

Appreciate more, Love more, it can be gone in a flash....thanks for the reminder.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
82. "Appreciate more, Love more, it can be gone in a flash" indeed, RiverLover. My
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:22 AM
Jan 2015

thoughts and prayers for and condolences to those who loved her and cared about her.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
8. Just terrible. It's been 20 years since a man leapt to his death from an overpass in front of me
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jan 2015

when I lived in Austin, TX, but I still remember it vividly. Hugs for you, and the poor woman's family.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. This happened to one of my former students last year...
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jan 2015

I wasn't there or anything but she was a really bright promising 21 year old headed to med school. A real tragedy...

NBachers

(17,107 posts)
12. People get up in the morning and put their clothes on, with no idea that they won't be here
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jan 2015

at the end of the day.

It's got to shake you up to witness this, PCIntern. You can never make yourself be the way you were before it happened.

We're all so interconnected. Know you are connected to our best wishes for you at this difficult time. And sympathy for the victims, too.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
17. yup, no one is guaranteed another day and you never know what could happen
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:29 PM
Jan 2015

the "I never thought it could happen to me" folk always amaze me - I wonder what makes them think they are so special.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
16. I'd be shaking for days if I saw that
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:21 PM
Jan 2015

hope it doesn't affect you too badly
Yes life can change in seconds.

niyad

(113,260 posts)
18. ((((((((pcintern))))))) please take extra good care of yourself for the next little while, and know
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:35 PM
Jan 2015

that your du family is here for you.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
20. I never saw an accidental death
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jan 2015

But several suicides, after the fact - and one, a jumper, landed about 15 feet behind us, we were swimming in a gorge under a bridge that used to attract suicides (bridge is now totally covered, and has steel netting underneath).

Interesting thing: I noticed that a few days after seeing a suicide, the witnesses get angry. Not at anyone in particular, they just act (and report that they feel) angry.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
88. What a terrible, sad thing to witness
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jan 2015

You don't say how old you were or who "we" are but I hope that you or anyone with you were children at the time. Witnessing a death is something you never forget.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
95. It was behind us, so we heard it but didn't see it.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jan 2015

My buddy and I. 18 or 19, were starting to wade into a popular and crowded swimming hole, 140' below one of the campus's three (!) notorious jumping bridges. We heard a loud BANG! that sounded like it was vaguely behind us, but it's hard to localize sound in a gorge (sound bounces around) and it was July 3rd so I figured some nitwit had tossed a large firecracker somewhere in the area.

Then people started pointing at us and screaming, screaming, screaming. This was very disorienting. What had we done?

Turns out that they weren't actually pointing at us, but at the rocks behind and above us where the unfortunate victim had hit.

Things continued to grow weirder after that, we helped the cops (campus and city) a little in the "rescue", I'll spare you the details.

For a few days after I was... well, I don't know how to describe it. Reflective? A little dead in the soul? Then angry. That's a pattern I noticed in others who witnessed the aftermath of similar suicides.

I don't think it was a student - most jumpers were from nearby towns, come for a final trespass.

Thanks for caring

marym625

(17,997 posts)
96. wow.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jan 2015

What a horrible thing. What a horrible, horrible thing to go through.

So many people obviously were changed from this one person, who evidently thought so little of his life that he couldn't live it any longer and didn't care, or at least think about, what it would do to everyone that was around at the time.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
21. How awful. As to what might go through your mind at such a moment...
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jan 2015

I kind of think it would be something oddly dull, all things considered. I was once in a really horrible spot while rock climbing. Long story short, something came loose, and there was an extended moment in which I was absolutely convinced that I was about to die.

All I could think about what how much it would cost to get my body out of this really hard-to-reach location. Would they need a helicopter? Could a crew get me out with just climbing gear? If they did need a helicopter, who would pay for it?

The moment resolved itself it with me still alive (obviously). I got up onto the ledge, feeling this sense of exaltation and relief, not consciously registering any stress at all, but I noticed I had to sit down because my legs were shaking so badly I couldn't stand. Fear is very odd.

Anyway, I'm sorry for your experience and of course, even more so for the victim. I'd say you deserve that drink.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
23. I was at one point convinced I was going to die when caught in a sudden unexpected snowstorm
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jan 2015

while hiking in the mountains -- with no real snow gear.

My mind quieted and got very still and I and my partner methodically started using various techniques to get warm enough to hike to the nearest shelter.

What I remember is that I wasn't at all afraid, just sort of resigned to death. And that once we got warm, we ditched the bag of garbage we'd been carrying to lighten our load. I've felt strangely guilty about it ever since.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
59. Huh.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

I know the feeling. Not the resignation to death--I'm still a 19 year old who's only been close to death once or twice, and happily confident that I will never die--but the odd guilty feeling for something that you normally wouldn't do, but was completely necessary at the time. It's surprisingly hard to accept that it was necessary, and move on.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
90. guilt is normal when we survive something
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jan 2015

Just like it's normal when someone we love or care deeply about dies or suffers something horrific.

So glad you made it through.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
26. With traumatic injury, one reaction can be the brain speeding up
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jan 2015

Probably due to shock and possibly also the instinct to try to find a way to survive. With the brain racing, everything around you appears to be happening in slow motion.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
89. so glad you were able to get out of that
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:55 AM
Jan 2015

I've read what you experienced from others. I find the coping mechanisms our brains use absolutely fascinating. Your mind drove you from the fear. And when a person does suffer something that is near death, something like the OP where she lived, most people don't remember the moment. Our brains protect us.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
22. This is terrible, and I saw a similar thing.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jan 2015

I walked into a scene in an urban downtown where a jumper from nine stories had landed on a car.

The jumper had just been taken away. What I saw was a car roof smashed down to the car floor, with bits of human tissue on the back of the car. I was nauseated, and upset that someone had felt so badly about their life that they felt the need to do this.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
25. Good heavens, how awful for all involved. So sad. My
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jan 2015

son, an electrician, and many other construction workers were horrified to watch one of the temp workers working with them commit suicide by jumping to his death from the 10th floor of their unfinished building. It's traumatic for everyone.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
27. My son is a glazer and used to install windows in high rises.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jan 2015

Thank goodness, now he stays on the ground installing windows in store fronts. I was a nervous wreck when he worked on the high rises.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
30. How awful. Life is so fragile. After 9/11, I was traumatized
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jan 2015

for months over the tower jumpers. They had 11 seconds to come to grips with their deaths. That really haunted me. I'd sit there and count to 11 over and over again, thinking about what I'd do in those circumstances.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
31. Life is precious
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:41 PM
Jan 2015

My good friend lost his 19 year old boy to a brain stem aneurysm last Sunday. He spoke with him Sunday night and two hours later he's gone. Out of nowhere. No warning signs.

I'm still hurting.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
32. How awful. It is a horrifying thing to witness something like that.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015

Fifty years ago--I was barely a teen--a girl who had been playing in the shallow section of the pond/swim club
where I spent most of my summers--was pulled out after a line of lifeguards walked the shallow end searching
for her body. She and her friend had been playing together in water in which they could stand up, but somehow she managed to drown. Her friend thought she had swam away underwater, and came out to sit on their towels with the friend's mother. But, after 10 minutes or so, she didn't show and the mother got worried. That image when the guard found her and picked her up out of the water--she was so pale and lifeless--has remained in my memory to this day.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
33. All it takes is a single little mistake to fall
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:12 AM
Jan 2015

I was 20 ft up a tree and grabbed a rotten brach which crumbled in my right hand sending me to the ground on my back. Miraculoously there werent any rocks or posts there just a small pile of leaves. I was bedridden for the next 3 days and every 6 mo or so I pull the injury again which wipes me out for a couple days.
I am now much more careful when high up or on the roof. Over confidence kills.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
34. This is devastating.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jan 2015

I am so terribly sad about all the many aspects of misery connected with this happening.
Of all involved you are the one I "know" - so I send you a warm hug.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
35. Question is why Temple University has dorm room windows...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:16 AM
Jan 2015

that open competely w/o stops, especially floor to ceiling ones.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
80. it was an Art Institute of Philadelphia dorm room
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:09 AM
Jan 2015

shared by two students at that school who she was visiting. She was an 18 year old first year student at Temple Univ. - Rebecca Kim.

Whether apartments or dorm rooms those windows should not have been able to allow anyone to fall out of them. I can't imagine how a building with windows that high aren't required to have safety windows.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
45. Virginia Tech had a student fall out of a very tall building while blind drunk
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 04:48 AM
Jan 2015

For years people had been warning about the possibility, but the administration said they didn't have the money to fix the problem. After the lawsuit the money appeared pretty quickly.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
97. Being drunk had little to do with it.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jan 2015

The window design was just bad. http://articles.philly.com/1997-11-25/news/25544483_1_drinking-by-college-students-binge-attorney-general-richard-cullen

I was in living in O'shag on the first floor when a student, upset over a breakup, jumped out of the 7th floor of Lee Hall and hit the ground near my window. Horrible experience.

Response to Historic NY (Reply #35)

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
81. it was a dorm room of the Art Institute of Philadelphia
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:19 AM
Jan 2015

She was visiting two friends in their dorm room there. She was an 18 year old first year Temple Univ. student named Rebecca Kim.

I agree about why on earth the building has no safety windows that only open partially or not at all. I don't think these windows are floor to ceiling ones. Those I'm sure would have to be safety glass and not open at all unless they led to a balcony, and I don't think balconies over traffic areas are allowed either.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
39. The local news here in SF never covers the Golden Gate Bridge jumpers. Too upsetting.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:11 AM
Jan 2015

Now, though, the bridge is getting a sort of safety net thing that should stop the suicides there.

But the idea of accidentally falling to one's death is just one of the saddest things to hear about.

Try looking at photos of peaceful, soothing places, like beaches, before you go to sleep.

BumRushDaShow

(128,856 posts)
46. This became a top story on KYW early this morning
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:40 AM
Jan 2015

and on the other news outlets. Hang in there... It can't be easy to shake.

I know a couple years ago about a mile and a half from where you are, the multi-level parking garage next to where I park had someone leap from the roof level and land literally about 30 ft from my car. I was still in the office at the time but a couple co-workers were out there and saw (and unfortunately "heard&quot it happen. By the time I walked past there to leave for the day, there was a sheet over the body and we didn't know there was actually a "body" under the sheet until the next day when the co-workers described what happened. Later the same year, someone else apparently did the same. I know this was a different circumstance from what happened where you were, but It's still shocking and just so sad.

PCIntern

(25,533 posts)
48. Second time for me
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jan 2015

Many years ago I witnessed a grad student at Penn take a swan dive out of a 16th floor window. It was at Grad Towers at 36th and Chestnut (again) he landed on top of what was a bar there with a sickening thud. The dean of his school quit shortly thereafter due to all the suicides. No lie.

PCIntern

(25,533 posts)
65. thanks, fellow Fluffian! (that's a former's mayor's pronounciation
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jan 2015

of the name of the city which he governed)

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
83. Twice even!
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:25 AM
Jan 2015

How awful! I hope I never end up witnessing anything so tragic. Horrible enough to see such things on film but to see it in person. Just awful.

I really feel for you.



tridim

(45,358 posts)
51. I feel for you.. I saw a horrible bicycle accident earlier this week.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jan 2015

The guy landed directly on his face, straight into the pavement from about 8 feet vertical (he was jumping off of a retaining wall on the side of the street, no helmet). Just awful to see, but he got help immediately and the hospital was walking distance.

I'm still thinking about it three days later.

coffeenap

(3,173 posts)
52. Oh, PCI, how devastating...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jan 2015

Although you did not know her, you have become part of a larger family that will struggle to heal from this tragedy. Sending you support and condolences.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
54. Oh I'm sorry! Pls don't hold it in.
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jan 2015

Get with some loved ones asap and talk it out. You're traumatized. Treat that seriously. You don't want it to take a greater toll on your psyche than it has to. If you can and you're up to it, maybe seek out her loved ones and offer them support. Helping others is really very healing. Sending hugs and good thoughts your way. Do not let this fester, sweetie.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
55. Reading your story reminded me of...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jan 2015

my youngest son's sudden death a little over a year ago. He was twenty-nine, worked hard to attain a decent life for his beautiful family and was blooming into a fine man, when suddenly he died in his sleep of a heart attack.

Life can end in an instant and it's devastating for those left behind to deal with the agonizing sudden loss of a young, vibrant life. This poor girl's family will have some very tough days ahead. My thoughts are with them, and the poor woman who was also injured in this tragic accident.

I'm sorry for your pain as well, PCIntern, and hope this tragic experience leaves you with a greater appreciation for how precious every second of life is, and to never take it or your loved ones for granted.

Take care.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
56. Sorry if this falls into the category of morbid curiosity but what floor were you on?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jan 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
57. My first deep reflection on the fragile nature of life
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jan 2015

was , long ago, I read about a man who while canoeing was killed by a branch that broke off a overhanging tree. I thought about the randomness of the accident. A few seconds plus or minus, a tree planted or seeded at that spot, the current plus or minus a few feet per second, the weakness of the branch - what caused it, the fact he decided to go canoeing that day, that time, etc., etc.

Shit happens, I guess. Life is strange and every second a gift.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
60. my first semester of college, we were studying as a group for midterms in bio
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jan 2015

heard a thump and yells of pain. Another student had jumped from the 8th floor in a suicide attempt but he landed on a bush and was not killed instantly. It put the pressure of mid terms into perspective.

Few of us know when our number will be called -- "Don't postpone joy."

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
63. Usually I would post something funny, at least to me;
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jan 2015

As it is generally a way to relieve a bad situation but with this tragedy it would be morally indecent of me to do so.

So;

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
64. I'm sorry to hear about
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jan 2015

Your witnessing that, My mind jumps to my having been involved
with several things like that as well. Odd how the mind looks back to the points in your own life when you read about someones else's tragedy's

calimary

(81,220 posts)
85. Welcome to DU, Mbrow.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:36 AM
Jan 2015

Glad you're here. It's hard to know where to begin. This is one of the real unexpected blessings of DU - how people come together to comfort. To sympathize. To empathize. It's sorely needed, and there are times when it seems like the only place you can turn - is to this DU community. Only one of MANY reasons why I'm glad I found this site. I'm glad PCIntern is sharing such deep, profound, and painful feelings. I'm glad people post here when they just lost a loved one, or something else bad that's happened. I'm glad they reach out. Skittles said it so well, awhile back - "someone's always here." And it just always seems to be someone with a gentle, open heart and a pair of strong, broad, sturdy shoulders.

to PCIntern, to SHRED, to Oilwellian - to everyone on this thread who's dealing with a great shock or a deep sorrow.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
93. Well said.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jan 2015

Just a guess, but like many of us on this thread that are reminded of things we witnessed and/or things that happened to us, I suspect that is true for you too.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
99. I've never witnessed anything as shattering as that. But what I experienced is how DUers responded
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jan 2015

when I posted the night my mother died. OVERWHELMING. Just OVERWHELMING, the response. Hard to describe how that felt. How it made me feel. How comforting it was. I can still remember when I posted about it. It was late at night. She'd died earlier in the evening. I'd gone to the hospital and saw. All those multitudes of hospital visits over her last years. I'd go see her every day and sometimes she was in okay shape - communicative and awake and alert and aware, and sometimes she was sort of dozing. When you have a loved one who goes in and out of the hospital you just start getting used to that routine. It becomes a routine. Meh - another stay in the hospital, how long will this one be, because the last one was (fill in the blank here), what will she need from home that I should bring this time, maybe she'll only need X-number of days this time, maybe she'll be out in time for that annual "ladies luncheon" she liked, that she never missed. You start taking it for granted. Because it starts to turn into this routine that you get used to dealing with.

And then, one night, it's OVER. END. FIN. DONE. There won't be any more hospital stays or calls to 911 or worrying or wondering or make-sure-we're-around-when-she-needs-to-be-picked-up, or any of that. NOTHING. It's OVER. And that was something ELSE to get used to, starting immediately. Something different to get used to, immediately. Adjustment needed - immediately. There would be no further luncheons to make sure she was home and feeling fit again and feeling up to attending again. OVER. We'd spent five years of that off-n-on hospital routine. You start to fool yourself into thinking that's just the way it's always gonna be... And then it all STOPS. COLD.

And all I can say is DU was there for me. I posted late at night because I couldn't get to sleep. Everybody else in the house was asleep and I was up, alone with my thoughts and that image still in my head from a few hours earlier, of my mother as I'd never seen her before - that permanent stillness, silent, inert, dead, body already starting to cool, really not even there anymore, just an empty shell left behind in that hospital bed. And I figured that was that. Then, literally only a few moments after I posted, there was a reply. Then another. Then two or three more. Then six or seven more. Soon it was dozens. I read them all again and again, as new ones popped up - before my very eyes. Finally went to bed. The next day when I got back to my computer, I went to my thread and saw hundreds of replies. Messages in my inbox. Everyone was so comforting, so sympathetic. So EMPATHETIC. So many people shared their own stories about this common bond I now shared with them.

I will NEVER forget that. No matter how contentious it gets here. I will ALWAYS love DU for the night so many people here sat up keeping a vigil with me. Even after I finally dragged my sorry ass off to bed. It was so comforting! I've often posted in someone else's bereavement thread here - that "DU will buoy you up." Cuz it sure did in my case. It helped me get through a VERY difficult time.

Helped immeasurably. It just made me feel like I wasn't alone and there were amazing crowds of friends-never-met who stood with me and behind me and had my back and were there to support me. CANNOT say enough about how that felt. And I'm sure in other such threads in the future, I'll be back boring people with this memory again. But that's how much it meant to me.

I cherish this place!

Skittles was correct:

"Someone's always here."

marym625

(17,997 posts)
100. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jan 2015

I have seen that kind of support here. I am glad those responses helped you.

I had a similar experience when my father died. But that was on Facebook. What was amazing was that some real life friends didn't come to his memorial service but a "Facebook friend" did. Now, a real life friend. I think some people don't understand that a memorial service is as important as a wake or funeral.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
101. It was awhile ago. So whatever hurt I'm still dealing with is slowly subsiding, thankfully.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jan 2015

I just like sharing what happened - when DU gathered around me in a time of strife. We bicker and argue and criticize and find fault and punch holes here, but we also have the far more nurturing and comforting side VERY much in evidence, and very powerful and vigorous. That should be known about, too, I think. And celebrated!

And of course a memorial service is as important as a wake or a funeral! How could it not be? And it mattered a lot to me to see who showed up. It's also been most illuminating for me to observe who didn't bother to show up, and who disappeared from my life almost immediately afterward. Extended relatives of my mom's. They were in it for her (and, sadly, what they could get out of her), and had no time for me. Um... like I really cared that much. My life now is good, and definitely healing, and it's since been well-proven to me that I never really needed those individuals in my life anyway. I'm happier without them.

Events like that can turn into a kind of "visit with 'The Sorting Hat'" from that Harry Potter movie. Really sorts people out for you. Separates "the men from the boys," and "the wheat from the chaff." Those who never really cared tend to fall away since you're of no further use to them. The ones who really count are the ones who stick around.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
67. Hugs and I can't imagine...
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jan 2015

Just know, you are thought of today and will be forever in my thought for peace to come to you.

Nac Mac Feegle

(970 posts)
69. This isn't TV
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jan 2015

The end of a life, especially in so traumatic a manner, is messy, and effects many people for a long time in many ways.

TV and movies have screwed up our expectations so badly.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
71. Oh my
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jan 2015

I simply can't imagine the horror. If I were you, dear PCIntern, I'd allow myself to have more than "a drink" on such an occasion. Such a terrible tragedy.

On another note, I cannot understand the logic of washing windows that are too high to reach with a power washer. If the window doesn't open so that it can be cleaned from the interior, it's simply not worth the risk. My thoughts and prayers are certainly with the poor lady, her unfortunate victim, and all who were affected or impacted by this tragedy.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
75. I can relate to both you and the person that fell
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jan 2015

I was walking across the street, a side street, in a cross walk, when a car came around a corner and straight at me. Though I don't recall being hit, I do recall thinking "oh shit!" 

Next thing I remember is telling some good samaritan, "if you get me help I won't tell them it was you." To which he replied, as he held me gently in his arms, "ok. Help is on the way." And he kinda chuckled. Next memory is in the hospital. 

I never did find out who that guy was. He evidently came out of nowhere. Another driver, who saw it happen because he was checking me out in his review mirror, asked this guy if he could stay with me while he, the driver, chased down the guy that hit me and left me for dead on the middle of the road. The first guy said he planned to and had called an ambulance. 

I also witnessed this &quot motorcyclist) went airborne 150 to 200 feet forward off the expressway and then about 75 feet down, landing on West 27th Street"  http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1N1-12FF510C63B6DA50.html 

It happened right in front of me. I am a biker but I was in my car that day. He cut right in front of me and I watched him loose control of the bike. He tried to regain control and almost had it. Then his bike went almost full 90 degree on the barrier to the streets below, righted itself straight, his leg hit the barrier and he went flying. I think I just screamed for a minute. His bike was right in front of my car and he was nowhere to be seen. His fellow bikers came up and started looking for him. I was on the phone with 911 and I shouted "he's down there! He's down there!" He had landed on one of the streets below, on his side, in exactly the same position he was on his bike. As other people came out of their cars, there were many tears. 

Unbelievably, he lived. I called the hospital when I found out where they had taken him. I asked the nurse to please let him know that people care. She told me "I can tell you I will give him the message and I can tell you he will understand it." 

I have no idea what his recovery was or if he can even walk. But he lived and without brain damage. 

I'm sorry for what you saw today. I am sorry that you had to witness it. I can tell you that it will stay with you. You just can't allow it to change you. 

PCIntern

(25,533 posts)
78. That is a superb post and sentiment.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:41 AM
Jan 2015

I thank you immensely for sharing that with us. It means a lot to me.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
79. Thank you very much
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:56 AM
Jan 2015

What a nice thing to say.

I do hope the woman that fell and the pedestrians that were hurt, get through this without any long term problems. I also hope you, and and anyone else that witnessed it, don't have any long term problems either.

A P.S. on the guy that chased the car that hit me; he caught them and he testified at the trial. My personal hero.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
84. Hi, PCIntern. I am so saddened to read this. I cannot imagine the horror this woman
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:34 AM
Jan 2015

must've felt upon that stark realization. It reminds me of another such unfortunate incident. I am a regular car renter and next door to the Enterprise location I frequent in a strip shopping center is an insurance broker, a friend to the guys and girls at the car rental office. I went to pick up a car one day this past spring and I sensed something was wrong. So I asked and was told that the owner of the State Farm insurance business next door was on vacation with his wife and kids at the Grand Canyon. He was posing for a picture when a gust of wind blew his hat off and as he instinctively went to catch it he lost his balance and fell 350 feet to his fate. 35 stories to the bottom of the canyon while his wife and kids watched helplessly.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Grapevine-Man-Dies-After-Fall-at-Grand-Canyon-250693431.html

Just awful. You and this young woman will be in my thoughts. Take some time and take care of yourself, PCIntern.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
86. How horrible
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jan 2015

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. That poor family. What a thing to have to live with. I can't fathom what those kids go through trying to deal with that.

Heartbreaking

PCIntern

(25,533 posts)
98. Weirdly it is now being reported that on her FB page was
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jan 2015

the statement: "It was intentional". I do not know if someone hacked her page or if this is legit. I cannot fathom which is worse.

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