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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho will be Hillary's running mate next year?
Personally, I'm pimping for Tom Brady, whom, sixteen days from now, will demonstrate that he is the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. But I'm also a realist, thus...
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Erose999
(5,624 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,700 posts)Skink
(10,122 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)SidDithers
(44,273 posts)Sid
MoonRiver
(36,974 posts)Gothmog
(156,448 posts)We don't care which Castro brother is on the ticket but I would favor Julian
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Castro does not give her Texas and brings nothing else to the ticket.
elfin
(6,262 posts)Young, accomplished enough, Latino, energetic, smart, personable etc. etc.
Unless some troubling skeletons pop up, he's the one.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)joshcryer
(62,511 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)cloudbase
(5,835 posts)We're putting the cart before the horse at this point.
I believe she's expecting a coronation in 2016 just as she did in 2008. That might not work out very well for her. Add to that the Clinton/Bush fatigue among the voters, and it's not looking as good this time around.
As the great American philosopher Lawrence Peter Berra said, "It ain't over 'til it's over."
winetourdriver
(196 posts)One of the Castro brothers.
blackcrow
(156 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,528 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)And Mr. Bundchen is nowhere near the QB Joe Cool was.
Stephen Retired
(190 posts)Why ya gotta be going there? Montana is great; no argument! But fifteen days from now, when Brady is hoisting the Lombardi Trophy over his head, he'll have played in 6 Super Bowls and won 4. How is that not the Greatest Ever???
Why, man? Just...why?
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Exactly.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)elleng
(137,302 posts)He should be Sec of Defense (or State or National Security Adviser.)
I don't think he has enough/any political clout, to recommend him as VP.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)"Summers looked at Stiglitz like Stiglitz was some kind of naive fool who'd read too many civics books."
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)He'll help her unwind the reforms, anemic as they are, that aren't being sensitive to Wall Street's needs. The Clintons' bookend coup d'etat against meaningful regulation will then be complete.
Clinton/Dimon 2016
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs-problem
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)No Hillary vote from me and I know I am not the only one.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)As soon as it's clear that the candidate is chosen, everybody on DU MUST get behind the Democratic nominee.
No exceptions.
It's the rules.
ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)I just can't make posts against the 'democratic' candidate.
Actually if she is the candidate, I will end up leaving the party I have been a member of since 1975, because the party will have changed to the point that it no longer reflects my values.
But I can still post here if I want.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)The_Commonist
(2,518 posts)"...everybody on DU MUST get behind the Democratic nominee. No exceptions."
I just kept quiet when Kerry/Edwards were the nominees. I didn't MUST do anything.
And of course, the 2008 primaries made this place just about the worst place on the internet. I just disappeared from here for much of the year.
And the truth is that I haven't voted for a "Democrat" in years.
In my state (New York), a candidate can be on more than one party ticket at once. I always vote Working Families Party, because I think the Democratic Party sucks. So, I've never helped elect a Republican, but I also have let the Democratic Party know that I think it sucks. It might not be the greatest solution, but it's something.
Autumn
(46,862 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)Some pretty undemocratic posts here.
karynnj
(60,047 posts)In 2004 and 2008, you could not attack, smear or argue against the nominee -- though it often took some pretty negative posts to actually get the poster tombstoned.
However, there were many who continued posting - not really jumping on to the bandwagons - but not breaking that rule. They continued to post on other races, issues and events.
As you know that DU leans left, you know that many are not AT THIS POINT behind Hillary Clinton. She is very much a prohibitive frontrunner. I wonder if it might be better strategy not to threaten other Democrats with the prospect that they will be kicked out when she wins the nomination.
In 2008, the same thing happened and it took a significant event - Bush vetoing the extension of SCHIP - that made me recognize that Kerry was not just being political in 2007 when asked about the 2008 race at a point before he endorsed anyone. His answer was to say on all the issues that were important to him - and he listed many obvious issues, EVERY Democratic candidate - even if not completely where he was - was MUCH better than Every Republican candidate. It took that veto to make me see that NO Democrat would have vetoed that bill and most Republicans would.
For 2016, I likely will be in the same place I would have been had a Democrat I did not want won the nomination. The motivation in that case might just come from comparing what the country would be like under that nominee or the Republican nominee. However, at that point, I will make an effort to identify what I do like in the nominee. This used to go without saying -- ie in 1992, when Clinton was nowhere near my favorite, I did not whine that I was just anybody but Bush -- as Clintonites Begala and Carvelle did in 2004. I looked and found reasons I could use to convince others to vote for Clinton.
However, if this place becomes nasty and seems to gleefully want to exile many long time posters, it might become a less broadbased place. I don't think that will make it better.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Fearless
(18,458 posts)That's not how to get people to agree with you.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)DU Rules about Democratic nominees, dude.
Fearless
(18,458 posts)Is the point to piss off democratic voters or to convince them to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They know the rules since they agreed to abide by them when they signed up, just like everybody else.
Fearless
(18,458 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Fearless
(18,458 posts)To tell them to get back in line or not be here a year from now?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)sure.
Autumn
(46,862 posts)backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)You just cant post negative posts about the nominee
TeamPooka
(25,536 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)does not apply here.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)It seems to me to be a bit self-defeating if a political forum curtails political speech.
I have the archaic notion that my vote belongs to me. Not the party, not DU, not to the party purists.
ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)If we don't like it we can leave.
The question you need to ask is do you want to participate in an echo chamber or have actual political discussion?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Some DU'rs seem to think that they have that right but, I ignore them.
benz380
(534 posts)I will leave that space empty on my ballot and vote for local candidates with real Democratic values.
Renew Deal
(83,260 posts)At least in the GE.
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)I love Booker (who is my senator) but I don't think he's ready for prime time yet (he's one of the few younger Democrats I can see going places, so IMO he needs to stay put for now) and he gives no geographic advantage (unless Christie on the other ticket) as they were both elected statewide in neighboring states.
The other I really like as a running mate (or top of the ticket) is unpopular on DU is Andrew Cuomo, who can't legally be on the same ticket as her (representing the same state).
Of all the possible selections, I like Castro the most. He gives a geographic and demographic advantage that an Elizabeth Warren or Martin O'Malley cannot (young, Latino, southern).
I could care less about a progressive purity test for candidates. According to DU, 2 of the 3 Democratic presidents in my lifetime are DINOs and the 3rd, well I was an infant when he was in office and have zero knowledge of his administration firsthand. I'm not about a purity test, I'm about electability. I'd much rather have a centrist Democrat that can win a national election than run a progressive who will put up Walter Mondale numbers and end up with a President Walker/Christie/Bush/Jindal/Paul/Rubio. If that makes me a DINO so be it.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...someone with geographic balance.
blackcrow
(156 posts)have brain cells. That automatically disqualifies them.
MineralMan
(148,180 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)If there's one thing Hillary is good at, it's cold, hard, and ruthless calculation. And if she's applying that skill to her own chances of becoming President, she will have to conclude that she doesn't have a realistic shot of pulling it off. She lost the only competitive election she was ever in, even though she started with such a massive lead that she herself believed the nomination to be a fait accompli - then got spanked by a junior Senator.
The only reason she is in the conversation at all is because the options for Democrats right now are so thin.
If Hillary runs, she loses. The obstacles before her - the biggest of which is her own off-putting personality - are far too large for her to overcome.
benz380
(534 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(121,904 posts)deaniac21
(6,747 posts)madinmaryland
(65,237 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Measuring drapes at this point, or even picking a running mate, is premature.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)CentralMass
(15,669 posts)Fearless
(18,458 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)IMO.
elleng
(137,302 posts)lordofhell, #8, said the same thing! Makes me happy that some are thinking of him.
As I said, I don't think he has political clout to justify a VP slot, but Sec Def/State/National Security Adviser SHOULD happen! (Should HAVE happened. )
Mike Nelson
(10,417 posts)...I think Warren (gender/age) and Clark (military minded) would be considered much like her to balance the ticket - although I like them both.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)That is all.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Ming doesn't get mentioned enough anymore. Made me laugh.
shenmue
(38,538 posts)crazylikafox
(2,831 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)Right now Dems are not too fond of police officers violating the rights of citizens and O'Malley got his police force to do that big time in Baltimore when he was mayor.
Logical
(22,457 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Did I miss something?
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