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Tue Jan 20, 2015, 05:21 PM

DNC MIA?

Where's Debbie?



Does she still have the job? (Hope not)

I may have missed it but I don't recall hearing ANYTHING from her prior to November Last year. Sure as hell haven't heard anything from her since. We should at least get an apology.

Where does our our fearless leader stand, (on anything) now?

Schultz should be on every TV show she can get to, Beating the drum. I see no news on the DNC or that "leadership"

BTW don't bother posting a link to their website. I'm looking for soapbox/Bully Pulpit related stuff.

What Am I missing here?

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Reply DNC MIA? (Original post)
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 OP
djean111 Jan 2015 #1
FSogol Jan 2015 #2
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #8
FSogol Jan 2015 #11
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #13
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #19
FSogol Jan 2015 #21
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #24
FSogol Jan 2015 #28
TheNutcracker Jan 2015 #26
FSogol Jan 2015 #29
frazzled Jan 2015 #3
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #9
brooklynite Jan 2015 #4
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #5
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #10
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #15
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #16
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #18
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #31
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #22
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #23
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #25
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #32
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #33
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2015 #34
sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #35
csziggy Jan 2015 #6
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #12
FSogol Jan 2015 #14
csziggy Jan 2015 #17
csziggy Jan 2015 #7
Recursion Jan 2015 #20
MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #27
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #30

Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 05:25 PM

1. I believe Debbie is just in charge of finding and promoting Blue Dogs.

 

Plus, if a GOP friend of hers is running, she will support that friend.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 05:25 PM

2. You are missing the fact that her job is fundraising and that there isn't an election nearby. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:40 PM

8. Her job is about Wall Street

rather than pushing the message and getting PEOPLE to vote? Well, that worked like a charm, didn't it.

When Howard Dean was running it I seem to recall him on TV/Radio regularly (PRIOR to the election)

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:44 PM

11. She's raised more money for the Dems that Dean did. That's why the rw hates her.

What is your objection? That she doesn't waste time blathering with idiotic pundits on teevee?

I wouldn't waste my time sitting next to Michael Steel. Why should she?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:45 PM

13. IT didnt' matter though, did it.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:41 PM

19. Money? Is that all she cares about? How come with all that money, we LOST the mid terms, again?

Maybe she should have used to back some Progressives for a change.

Blue Dogs are not popular with the voters. Wasting money pushing candidates the voters repeatedly say they don't want, is wasting money.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:45 PM

21. She doesn't pick the candidates, she just raises money. You want more progessive candidates?

Then get some in your district or State to run.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:03 AM

24. We are, don't worry, voters did a good job of doing that across the country during the mid terms.

Finding and supporting Progressives in their local elections. Gettng their issues on their ballots and VOTING FOR THEM, and winning.

You seem to think that voters are to blame, the same voters who gave Dems everything in 2008 only to be told their ideas are 'retarded' and to stop attacking Republicans. Because lord knows we need to be 'bi-partisan' and 'compromise' which appears to mean only ONE side compromises.

So voters are on their own and they are putting all that energy now into rebuilding their party from the bottom up. They got off to a great start so far. And without all that money.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:51 AM

28. The voters are not to blame. The people who stayed home* are to blame.

* and the people who encouraged them to stay home.

Example of the party being rebuilt from the ground up?

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:25 AM

26. That is not true....

 

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Response to TheNutcracker (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:53 AM

29. It is, except that she sits on some committees that make those decisions. She doesn't have

final say on which candidates receive financial help. Her primary job is fund raising.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:41 PM

9. THe election was November

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 05:31 PM

4. What would you have heard?

The DNC Chair's job is fundraising and organization. She's not the Party's spokesperson. Last time I checked we have a President for that.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 06:11 PM

5. I think we are owed an appology form the 2012 voters who could not be bothered to vote in 2014.

We essentially had he same voters from 2010 with identical results.

Part of that may be due to Republicans successfully running against Obama while Democrats failed to put together a cohesive national campaign.

But I don't blame her for the whole fiasco, unless she did not vote. I blame those members of the Democratic Party who only show up when there is a President on the ticket.


Also, 2014 was not that unusual. If you look back at turnout all the way to the 60's, midterms see a fall off the young, minorities, and the poor voters. The problem with that historical trend is that it is primarily Democratic voters that ate the no shows. 2006 was different because the Democratic party successfully ran against Bush and had Dean as DNC Chairman. Dean ran a successful 50 state initiative that fought in every state and Democrats won.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:43 PM

10. re. People who didn't bother to vote

Agree completely.

But the DNC 'machine' didn't seem to do shit to give them a reason

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:53 PM

15. Again, you blame the DNC. i vote in every election because I motivate myself.

I do not look for someone to give me a reason to vote.

I examine the candidates and decide which one is the best fit for the job.

I always choose the best candidate of those that apply.

Voting is a responsibility in a Democratically elected Republic. If the citizens do not vote, we can not elect a government that reflects what the citizens want. So those who voted for Democrats in 2012 that did not go to the polls 2014 decided they like and wanted what the Republicans have, because Republican voters turned out.

We have a government elected by a majority of those who vote.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:57 PM

16. Not everyone is as wonderful as you are.

IT should be obvious, given the Dem voting rate, that t more people need a reason to get off their asses than don't.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:36 PM

18. They don't get off their asses because they like Republicans...

or they are looking to be led by the nose, which means they like Republicans who will lead them by the nose.

We do not elect leaders, we elect representatives. If people are unwilling to lead by voting, then they should seek out a country where two bit tyrants tell them what to do.

And it would be damned tedious dealing with 7 billion people as wonderful as I am. There is just not enough wonderful me to fill that many bodies.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 03:31 PM

31. Dude......

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:46 PM

22. Keep on blaming the voters, who DID vote, but for what they are interested in, and they will keep

rejecting candidates who do not fight for them.

Across the country voters were working hard, getting Progressive issues on their local ballots, since DC for the most part, ignores them. And they succeeded.

They also promoted Progressive Candidates and helped fund their campaigns. And they were extremely successful. They did keep Progressive candidates in office wherever they had that choice. But they did not vote for those who did not represent THEM.

You cannot control people's votes. They are SMART and blaming THEM is an insult. That is no way to GOTV.

Voters want to vote FOR candidates. So give them candidates they can vote FOR and they will be there.

They have stated over and over again, what Truman warned about, 'we don't want Republican lite, if we wanted Republicans we would go for the real thing'.

Listening to voters is the best way to win elections.

And Democrats want Progressive Democratic candidates. That shouldn't be so hard, should it?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:58 PM

23. I did not blame voters who voted. Older voters who voted Republican were responsible, though their

choices were reprehensible. They understand that it matters who has the agenda. Republicans actually understand that the parties are different and vote for a Republican because that is what they think benefits them. Any voter that went out and voted for Democrats were responsible citizens that understand how the government works.

People who did not show up and make a choice are irresponsible at best.

Nobody gets exactly what they want. Often, the choices in an election are not our preferred candidate. But no matter who they are, one of those candidates will be marginally better than the other. And if two clones run on different tickets, then it really matters which side is in the majority. The majority sets the agenda.

People who want progressive or liberal polices should attempt to understand how our system works. It matters who is in power. Democrats will never pass a bill that most progressives or liberals will fall in love with, but they will pass a bill that will do some of the things they want and need done, if they have the power to set the agenda.

A progressive or liberal who wants to get things done will vote in every election, no matter what.

If they don't, they are neither progressive nor liberal.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:13 AM

25. You are unaware apparently of what is happening across this country.

And please stop with the 'you can't get everything you want'. That is an insult again, to the intelligence of voters. They are not asking for 'everything they want'. They ARE asking that we do not get more Republican policies from the Dems we elect to stop those policies, war, protecting Wall St criminals, supporting neocon policies that we elected them to end.

All this 'you want ponies' etc, has taken its toll for the Dem Party. I don't know whose idea it was, though I can make an educated guess, to insult progressive voters without whom, obviously, they cannot win. Taking voters for granted is a bad idea.

Underestimating the intelligence of the electorate is also a bad idea.

We need new leadership in this party. Clearly the current leadership is out of touch with the voters whose votes they appear to believe they own.

Unions eg, are not happy and issued several warnings after the 2012 election which apparently went unheeded.

All voters want is to be represented by the people they elect to do so. What they see is that Corporate Interests are more important than theirs.

So, they are now taking matters into their own hands and beginning the process of choosing their own candidates, focusing their energies where they CAN have some influence, in their local communities and for a beginning, they are doing pretty well so far.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 04:14 PM

32. If they don't want Republican policies vote and elect better representatives.

Our system has two parties and a thousand different sets of personalities with different points of view that must sit down and compromise to come up with legislation. (Very few independents are elected to the national government, and even they must caucus with Republicans or Democrats if they want to do more than sit on a bench.)

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, The Equal rights act of 1964 were all flawed when they were passed by Democrats and Republicans that sat down to compromise on a bill. They were all greatly improved over time.

Title IX, which I have mentioned, expanded education rights and women's rights, and it was improvements to several previous acts.
Higher Education Act of 1965,
the Vocational Education Act of 1963,
the General Education Provisions Act (creating a National Foundation for Postsecondary Education and a National Institute of Education),
the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965,
Public Law 874,

(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX)

That is how our system works. The government compromises to get something passed, and other Congresses and Presidents improve it over time.

Republicans do not pass bills to improve legislation that bettered the lives of the poor and working class Americans. Their political philosophy is to better the lives of the rich and businesses who they really believe will better the lives of individuals by building businesses. (There model does not make sense to me, but I am not rich or a businessman.)

That is why it maters who is in power. Democrats will work to improve the system when in power, Republicans will not.

The only way to do that is vote in every election.

Compromise and incremental improvement are dirty words around here, but that is how our system works. That is how it is designed to work.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:25 PM

33. Compromise means BOTH SIDES give something up. What we see is Dems continuously compromising

and getting nothing in return. We see Dems give up before they even start, offering Repubs compromise before they even ask for it.

If the system is that bad, maybe THAT is what needs to change. It sure isn't working for millions of Americans and to continue doing the same thing over and over again when it isn't working, isn't very smart.

Which is why voters across the country are taking matters into their own hands, starting where they have the best chance of being heard, in their local communities. You can slam everyone here on DU, who DO vote btw, but what are you going to do about the millions out there who are not hearing what they want to hear from their Reps? Tell all of them it is THEIR fault, that they are too stupid to understand 'how politics works'?? That isn't a very good tactic to attract voters, obviously..

How about trying something new since clearly the old way isn't working. How about LISTENING to the voters for a change instead of all these 'brilliant' political professionals who appear to know nothing about the voters and view them only in numbers?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:14 PM

34. So you agree that the sysem isn't working because Republians are in power and won't compromise.

The solution to that is voting in every election.

People who don't vote in a election are the problem.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:27 PM

35. Again, clearly people have lost faith in the system. DUers vote. But millions do not. So obviously

the system isn't working. I already said that.

And your solution to force them to vote is to attack THEM rather than those responsible?

Then expect more Republicans. I'm wondering if those who sit around attacking the wrong people actually want Republicans to win at this point.

Because no one can be so blind to what the problem is unless they are happy with losing elections.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 06:21 PM

6. She's still around - I got an email from her today

With links to surveys asking for opinions on issues:
Before President Obama speaks...
Dear csziggy,

The President is set to deliver his State of the Union address in just about 11 hours. Before he lays out his priorities for the year, I wanted to ask for your take on 2015.

Share your thoughts by completing our issues survey (http://action.debbiewassermanschultz.com/page/m/10113291/62225756/e09ce53/3079161a/3094220020/VEsH/) -- itís quick and easy and we really appreciate getting your input.

Republicans have already staked out their extreme policy positions. Theyíre trying to hack away at Social Security, cut taxes for billionaires, and prevent any progress for the middle class.

Weíll hear the Presidentís ideas soon. And in the days ahead I want to read yours. But I canít unless you send it!

Click here and let me know where you want Congress to focus in 2015. http://action.debbiewassermanschultz.com/page/m/10113291/62225756/e09ce53/3079161a/3094220020/VEsE/

Thanks for sharing your views and thanks for standing with me!

Debbie


The survey is:
What can Congress do for you?

The new Congress is a fresh chance to get Washington working again. Which issue do you think Democrats should pursue in 2015? What matters most to you and your family?

Which issue matters most to you and your family?
Citizens United and campaign finance
Minimum wage Equal pay
Financial reform
Infrastructure development & repair
Foreign affairs & national security
LGBT issues & equal rights
Social Security & Medicare protection
Climate change & environmental issues
Education reform
Something else on your mind? Write it in here:


Let her know what you think!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:44 PM

12. Riviting

That'll get people to get off their asses....

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:47 PM

14. Internet malcontents never get off their asses.

Enjoy your nap.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 06:26 PM

17. The only reason I even opened it was to quote the contents here

I got on her email list somehow and haven't taken the time to get off it. Usually I delete them unread since I have no intention of donating money to the DNC to to Debbie.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 07:52 PM

7. Got another email from Debbie with the results of her survey

The biggest priorities according to her poll are protecting Medicare & Social Security, ending Citizens United, and growing the economy.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:41 PM

20. "Don't show me her communications platform; I'm looking for her communications platform"



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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:26 AM

27. That woman is a #%^*ing genius

 

She got Democrats off the hook.

Freed from any possibility of passing legislation that might pique their meal tickets, Democrats can demand all sorts of shiny things for the 99%.

Have you seen our President? He's on fire, thanks to that woman.

Genius. Absolute genius.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 03:30 PM

30. ??

Maybe you missed it, but under her 'leadership' she pulled in a lot of corporate $$ (I guess that pays someones salary) and LOST in teh House and Senate - miserably

If you're into turning over Dem seats to the Fascists - yep, genius.

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