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coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 04:01 AM Apr 2012

One reason I hate Republicans:

Last edited Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)

House Republicans recently proposed cuts to nutrition assistance that will kick 280,000 low-income children off automatic enrollment in the Free School Lunch and Breakfast Program. Those same kids and 1.5 million other people will also lose their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (formerly food stamp benefits) that help them afford food at home.

Ten years’ worth of these nutrition cuts could be prevented for the price of one year of tax cuts on 3,340 multimillion dollar estates that House Republicans are protecting in their budget.

On April 18 the House Agriculture Committee passed a bill cutting over $33 billion from SNAP over the next decade.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/04/25/470967/gop-school-lunch-cuts/?mobile=nc

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How can any Republican be allowed to skate on this 'Comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted' issue? This is cruelty, plain and simple and there's no way they can turn this sow's ear into a silk purse. I'm so mad about this, just livid.

On edit: I am indebted to kpete for posting this first in LBN. Neglected to attribute it when first posting.

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One reason I hate Republicans: (Original Post) coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 OP
Rename this thread to "Republicans are killing our kids" DontTreadOnMe Apr 2012 #1
There's no reasoning or negotiating with sociopaths, as someone astutely coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #11
One good reason among many. Scuba Apr 2012 #2
They claim that they believe that helping the wealthy will help everybody drm604 Apr 2012 #3
Even if they are sincere in that belief, ... surrealAmerican Apr 2012 #7
You know, it's one thing to go after welfare Moms and the unemployed, as coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #12
I'm not really sure how to respond Meiko Apr 2012 #4
One does have to be a heartless bastard... Leftist Agitator Apr 2012 #5
Oh, it's far worse than 'poor people,' as despicable as attacks on that demographic are. It's coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #13
Don't you believe in the Big Bang? izquierdista Apr 2012 #6
Yowser! The image evokes so much. Thanks, although coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #17
Hard for me to pick just one. libtodeath Apr 2012 #8
Will NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN cover this? emulatorloo Apr 2012 #9
I doubt they will in any serious way kctim Apr 2012 #10
Not sure I follow you. Are you disagreeing that 280,000 children coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #18
Not at all kctim Apr 2012 #23
I'm not a policy wonk, so I'm going to give you a layperson's impression. coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #28
The person asked if the MSM was going to cover this opinion kctim Apr 2012 #29
Legislation has passed out of the Republican Agriculture Committee that coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #30
"In a sense" kctim Apr 2012 #32
Let's see. NBC is owned by GE, ABC is owned by Disney and coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #15
Something like 16 MILLION children go to sleep at night hungry rustydog Apr 2012 #14
Especially since poor nutrition produces adverse educational outcomes, among coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #16
I'm sure this will "build character" or something equally bootstrappy. Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #19
You win the Neologism of the Week award (for 'bootstrappy'). Thanks! :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #20
Can't take credit for it, but happy to spread it around. :-) [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2012 #21
one reason I hate your title hfojvt Apr 2012 #22
Good point. I intended this as a Munch-like scream of coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #25
margaret thatcher is very proud. mikeSchmuckabee Apr 2012 #24
And some DUers agree with the GOP on this proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #26
I purposely held my tongue when I read that, because I could only coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #27
Jeezus, I hate those fuckers too nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #31
It's real hard for me not to hate these creatures that deliberately hurt children. Zorra Apr 2012 #33
I don't even try. backscatter712 Apr 2012 #34
Please see hfojvt's point (#22) upthread and my response. Hfojvt coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #35
 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
1. Rename this thread to "Republicans are killing our kids"
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:26 AM
Apr 2012

"Kick a Republican in the balls" -- I go by that motto too.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
11. There's no reasoning or negotiating with sociopaths, as someone astutely
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:32 AM
Apr 2012

pointed out in the thread about Gandhi, Hitler and the efficacy of non-violence as a tactic, because sociopaths only understand and respond to domination and submission.

Thanks for the suggested title change. This OP was intended to be a personal vent of mine, a Munch-like scream to my brothers and sisters at DU.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
3. They claim that they believe that helping the wealthy will help everybody
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:23 AM
Apr 2012

but it's becoming more and more difficult for people to believe that they're sincere in that belief, and easier and easier to believe that in their hearts they are acting out of spite towards certain groups of people.

It should by now be obvious to any reasonably intelligent and intellectually honest person that trickle down doesn't work.

surrealAmerican

(11,867 posts)
7. Even if they are sincere in that belief, ...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:32 AM
Apr 2012

... and some of them appear to be, it's still a belief that's been proved false by actual data.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
12. You know, it's one thing to go after welfare Moms and the unemployed, as
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:34 AM
Apr 2012

despicable as attacks on either group are. It's another thing entirely to attack demographic groups that have no way to defend themselves.

That's why I call it cruelty (of the sociopathic variety).

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
4. I'm not really sure how to respond
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:41 AM
Apr 2012

this makes me sick to my stomach. Taking food away from people and spending the money on weapons or to give tax breaks to the rich is not a budget decision, it's a crime. Unbelievable these people.

 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
5. One does have to be a heartless bastard...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:14 AM
Apr 2012

To propose and actually believe that it's right to make poor people starve so that the most well off can become even wealthier.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
13. Oh, it's far worse than 'poor people,' as despicable as attacks on that demographic are. It's
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:36 AM
Apr 2012

attacking poor children who have absolutely no way to defend themselves.

Un-friggin-believable. Jonathan Swift (of "A Modest Proposal" fame) is surely stirring in his grave right about now.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
6. Don't you believe in the Big Bang?
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:31 AM
Apr 2012

Republicans are just following the best science. See if you keep cramming something (money) into a smaller and smaller space, it eventually reaches a tipping point where KA-BOOM! it explodes and showers down on everybody.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
17. Yowser! The image evokes so much. Thanks, although
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:01 AM
Apr 2012

I suspect few Republicans can even define the 'Scientific Method.'

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
9. Will NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN cover this?
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 09:53 AM
Apr 2012

Or will it just be Rachel, Ed, Lawrence and thinkprogress?

That's how they are allowed to skate on things like this.

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
10. I doubt they will in any serious way
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:03 AM
Apr 2012

This reasoning is to general and could be applied to any spending cut.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
18. Not sure I follow you. Are you disagreeing that 280,000 children
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:02 AM
Apr 2012

will be cut immediately (as soon as this budget is enacted if it is enacted) from the free school lunch program?

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
23. Not at all
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:16 PM
Apr 2012

I am saying that you could take ANY of the proposed cuts and say they want to protect the "tax cuts on 3,340 multimillion dollar estates" instead of helping those people the cuts affect.

I guess I could be reading the wrong bill. Is this a bill that specifically cuts only this program in order to keep those tax cuts? Or is this the bill that makes cuts to illegal immigrant services, pensions, food stamps etc... but does not raise those estate taxes?


 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
28. I'm not a policy wonk, so I'm going to give you a layperson's impression.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:26 PM
Apr 2012

I think there are multiple budgetary bills before the House at any given moment in time. In the interest of reducing the budget deficit, this bill proposes to cut government food assistance over a 10-year period, including immediately kicking 280,000 kids off the rolls of the free school lunch program. However, there are other ways to reduce the deficit, such as a bill that would increase taxes on millionaires.

Net-net: Republicans don't really care about reducing the deficit. Or they care less about hungry children than they care about reducing the deficit while leaving richy-riches untouched.

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
29. The person asked if the MSM was going to cover this opinion
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:22 PM
Apr 2012

and to me, they will not, because it is a general opinion that can be applied to any of the other cuts. IMO, only opinionated talk shows like Maddow, Ed etc... will promote this.

This is nothing more than disagreeing on ways to reduce the deficit, not a heartless attempt to starve kids.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
30. Legislation has passed out of the Republican Agriculture Committee that
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 03:57 PM
Apr 2012

will remove 280,000 children from the free school lunch program. That much is indisputable. DUers who teach in school will tell you that the children who receive this food aid are not freeloaders and need the nutrition that the programs provide. So I beg to differ that it does, in a sense, starve children to appease the bitter God of deficit reduction.

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
32. "In a sense"
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 11:19 AM
Apr 2012

is why I said it is too general of an assumption for the big media to focus on.

On ANY issue where there are cuts and no tax increases, you can say people hate those affected by the cuts and love those who they did not raise taxes on.

Do we hate our soldiers because we want cuts in defense? Of course not. That is just a false talking point pushed by right-wingers. Big media however just reports cuts to defense.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
15. Let's see. NBC is owned by GE, ABC is owned by Disney and
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:41 AM
Apr 2012

CBS is owned by Viacom (or they used to be. I haven't kept up with M&A activity among the Big 3 networks). I'm not holding my breath. You can bet, though, that if the unemployment rate creeps up by even 0.1% they'll be all over it, laying blame for it at Obama's doorstep (and I'm no big Obama fan by any means). I don't even bother with the MSM any more, as their coverage is so predictable and contemptible.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
14. Something like 16 MILLION children go to sleep at night hungry
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:39 AM
Apr 2012

and the republicans want to increase the number by 280 THOUSAND...I do not see how one parent married to a GOP fuckwad remains married to them with this history of hate against the backbone and FUTURE of America, our youth.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
16. Especially since poor nutrition produces adverse educational outcomes, among
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:43 AM
Apr 2012

many other adverse effects.

I grew up hungry and poor (on a farm no less), so I may be a little more sensitive to the childhood hunger issue than most. But this just takes the cake (npi) in its utterly despicable cruelty.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
19. I'm sure this will "build character" or something equally bootstrappy.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:04 AM
Apr 2012

No, but seriously, we need to destroy these evil bastards.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
22. one reason I hate your title
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:13 PM
Apr 2012

many people self identify as Republicans. They are registered Republicans, just like I am a registered Democrat. Thus, I self-identify as a Democrat.

Thus, if somebody at FR titled a post "One reason I hate Democrats" they would basically be making the post read "One reason I hate people like hfojvt".

See, you are talking about the perfidity not of Republicans (like hfojvt's brother, or more especially his brother-in-law) but of Republican POLITICIANS.

Now, you may say, "but you ignorant fool, those Republican voters are supporting those Republican politicians". Yes, they are, and maybe that qualifies them somehow for their minimum daily allowance of hate. But I think it is kinda hard to convince them to stop supporting those Republican politicians by starting your argument (or your sales pitch) with "I hate you".

Hate Boehner, hate Ryan, hate Gingrich and Romney and Santorum (and even Paul, oh my). Hate Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and even Tony Snow (even though he's dead). But don't hate the average Republican voter. Unless you would rather fight than convince them to switch.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
25. Good point. I intended this as a Munch-like scream of
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:17 PM
Apr 2012

existential pain for my DU brothers and sisters, so was not as cautious with my words.

Just so you know, though, I have met Republican non-politicians who see nothing wrong with kicking 280,000 kids off the rolls of the free school lunch program. Just like I met Republican non-politicians who said that the people who didn't leave New Orleans before Katrina struck 'deserved' what happened to them.

But you're right. Not all Republicans subscribe to those views. I still hate Republicans though

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
27. I purposely held my tongue when I read that, because I could only
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:21 PM
Apr 2012

assume the person posting it neglected to use a sarcasm icon. The argument was that it's better for children to be hungry and free than to be imprisoned (in school) and fed. I thought the person posting it might have been engaging in some Swiftian satire beyond my meager abilities to suss out.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
33. It's real hard for me not to hate these creatures that deliberately hurt children.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:03 PM
Apr 2012

I try really, really hard not to hate the inhuman republicans monsters.

But they continually make it so very hard for me not to hate them.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
34. I don't even try.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:08 PM
Apr 2012

They're Republicans. They're sociopathic monsters. Of course I hate them.

Hatred is a legitimate human emotion. Don't bottle it up.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
35. Please see hfojvt's point (#22) upthread and my response. Hfojvt
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:44 PM
Apr 2012

distinguishes between Republican politicians and Republican registrants and I think his point has some merit. To wit, how many Republcian Party members would remain in the party if they were fully aware of what their party leaders are up to, i.e., hurting the defenseless? My response though is that I think the sociopathic trait is now a defining feature of many Republican Party members and not just its political leadership cadre.

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