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Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:09 PM

Is John Boehner a Traitor?

[link:http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2015/01/john-boehner-traitor|
http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2015/01/john-boehner-traitor]

Is John Boehner a Traitor?

On Wednesday, the Speaker of the House confirmed that he had invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to come speak to Congress, “on the grave threats radical Islam and Iran pose to our security and way of life.”

The announcement just so happens to come as Republicans in Congress are pushing for new sanctions against Iran, which threaten current diplomatic negotiations with that country.

As of now, Netanyahu is expected to speak to a joint session of Congress in March, while he’s in the U.S. for the annual AIPAC conference. So, why is Boehner’s invitation to Netanyahu such a big deal?

First off, it’s a HUGE violation of protocol and MASSIVELY disrespectful to President Obama and


NOw that you mention it. How about Reagan and HW Bush for the Iran Hostage Crisis?
TO late to prosecute Nixon

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Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 OP
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #1
Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #2
DesMoinesDem Jan 2015 #3
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #4
Post removed Jan 2015 #5
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #6
DesMoinesDem Jan 2015 #8
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #10
Go Vols Jan 2015 #20
hifiguy Jan 2015 #7
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #9
oberliner Jan 2015 #11
madokie Jan 2015 #13
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #15
madokie Jan 2015 #17
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #21
madokie Jan 2015 #26
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #23
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #25
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #29
NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #36
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #38
oberliner Jan 2015 #16
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #18
madokie Jan 2015 #24
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #35
madokie Jan 2015 #39
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #41
madokie Jan 2015 #42
madokie Jan 2015 #12
hifiguy Jan 2015 #14
madokie Jan 2015 #19
fadedrose Jan 2015 #34
madokie Jan 2015 #37
brush Jan 2015 #47
madokie Jan 2015 #48
TheCowsCameHome Jan 2015 #22
Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #27
fadedrose Jan 2015 #33
madville Jan 2015 #28
La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #32
La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #30
tammywammy Jan 2015 #43
arcane1 Jan 2015 #44
fadedrose Jan 2015 #31
sharp_stick Jan 2015 #40
madamesilverspurs Jan 2015 #45
C_U_L8R Jan 2015 #46
Blue Owl Jan 2015 #49

Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:11 PM

1. Nixon and Reagan absolutely committed treason, without a doubt...

Since IKE the right in America has been the most corrupt, ugly, racist, thieving bunch of disgusting pig fucks.

And the teaparty has that condition on steroids.

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:13 PM

2. Damn!

Couldn't have said it better myself

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:14 PM

3. You've made it quite clear you have no idea what treason is.

 

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Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:14 PM

4. Yeah, you betcha...gonna explain why Nixon and Reagan are innocent?

Man, the people around here that will work overtime to defend John Boehner and the GOP

astounding, really

Are we gonna see the same people defend Nixon and Reagan next?

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Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:19 PM

6. What ????? Clarify instantly

never mind, i have reported that sick shit...

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:22 PM

8. Why won't you explain why you are innocent?

 

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Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:23 PM

10. Hurry up MIRT, I dont take kindly to being accused of rape and murder on the internet

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:29 PM

20. results

On Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Right after you explain why you aren't guilty of raping and murdering a girl in 1990.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6124029

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unbelievable, i am being accused of rape and murder

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:21 PM

7. You are correct.

 

The "Chennault Incident" in which Nixon used Anna Chennault as a go between to convince South Vietnam's President Thieu to reject the peace-talks terms being offered by LBJ was nothing short of actionable treason. It undermined a significant foreign policy change made by a sitting POTUS. Nixon told Chennault to tell Thieu to reject the proposal because Thieu would be able to get "a better deal" if Nixon won the presidency.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:22 PM

9. Thanks, and Reagan had a deal arranged before his election, yet to be proven beyond a

shadow of a doubt but pretty much accepted by most people.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:23 PM

11. Pelosi met with Assad against Bush's wishes

 

Did that make her a traitor?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:26 PM

13. Nancy didn't invite Assad to address the house though did she

comparing apples to oranges always ruin a conversation

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Response to madokie (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:26 PM

15. Not the first time today, there is a strong anti Democratic party attitude around

here lately

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:28 PM

17. No doubt

it happens quiet often around here lately

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Response to madokie (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:30 PM

21. You noticed it too...good

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:33 PM

26. Only the deaf and blind couldn't notice that

Peace

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:31 PM

23. It has nothing to do with anti-Democratic party attitude.

It has to do with not resorting to bizarre hysteria over non-existent crime. This ridiculousness makes DU an internet laughingstock.

If a Democratic Congress was doing the exact same thing to a GOPer president the answers would be the same -- It's not treason.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:32 PM

25. Bullshit

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:40 PM

29. No, really; it's true.

If a Democratic Congress invited a foreign leader to address Congress over the objections of a GOP president it would not be treason.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:43 PM

36. Really?



I will give you credit for a funny comeback...

No, really...

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Response to NoJusticeNoPeace (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:45 PM

38. So, if it were a Dem Speaker in Boehner's place you would want them tried for treason?

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Response to madokie (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:27 PM

16. She led a Congressional visit to Syria when asked explicitly not to do so by the POTUS

 

Seems to at least be in the same ballpark.

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Response to madokie (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:29 PM

18. How does that make it any different? Congress is a co-equal branch of government

No President has any say over who does or does not appear before Congress.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:32 PM

24. Visiting someone and inviting them to address either the house or the senate is not the same thing

Not even to be discussed as if it is

Obama, best I remember, didn't ask them not to. its just standard procedure or has been up to now

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Response to madokie (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:43 PM

35. Do you think Pelosi and her delegation were just having tea and sconces?

Obama, best I remember, didn't ask them not to. its just standard procedure or has been up to now

And somehow that is treason?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:45 PM

39. I didn't say anything about treason

I say that what he has done is wrong headed and he knows that
Fuck Boehner

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Response to madokie (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:50 PM

41. Ah. Well the OP is about this rising to the level of treason and declining to accept

that framing has been labeled an "anti democratic attitude." Since yu seemed to agree with that labeling I can be forgiven for assuming you agree with the predicate discussion of treason.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:56 PM

42. Run with it

I have no intention of continuing this discussion, its pointless at this point in time
Nothing personal here though and I hope you agree with that

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:24 PM

12. John Boehner is a DRUNK ass

and stupid to boot

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Response to madokie (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:26 PM

14. Captain Bourbonator!

 

- hic -

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:29 PM

19. spot on

LOL

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Response to madokie (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:42 PM

34. And likable

Most drunks are.

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:44 PM

37. Maybe to other drunks

not by me. I spent too many years as a drunk to go to liking them now that I'm sober

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Response to madokie (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:03 PM

47. And Netanyahu is a supreme a hole to accept an invite like that

It's an unprecedented, unheard of, intentional, behind the back, crap move designed to embarrass and snub the president.

No one but an arrogant ass of a head of state would do that to another head of state.

It's going to back fire on Boner and Netanyahu.

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Response to brush (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 10:07 PM

48. Yes to all you said

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:31 PM

22. Not so much a tomater as he is an orange.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:35 PM

27. No, he can invite whoever he likes to address Congress.

Of course, if the two of them start plotting to overthrow the government, my answer would change.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:42 PM

33. Which government?

You may be on to something.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:38 PM

28. Treason? No. Inconsiderate of the Administration's

Wishes? Sure. Not in line with past etiquette or protocol? Yes.



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Response to madville (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:41 PM

32. yup

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:41 PM

30. no, this trend of calling people traitors because you don't like them or their political agendas

 

is deeply disturbing.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:59 PM

43. +1





And intellectually lazy!

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:01 PM

44. I like to call it the "Over-the-Top Liberal Act"

 

And it gets old!

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:41 PM

31. No, he's not a traitor

He's doing the bidding of folks in the House who want to know more about why Netanyahu wants more sanctions against Iran. (I'm relieved that he only wants sanctions, he used to want to bomb them and a few other countries)...

I think that Boehner made an anonymous phone call to Obama and told him about it. And the President made an anonymous call to Boehner, and they cooked up a plot to more or less humiliate the PM of Israel, and are hoping that a new PM is elected who is more likable, less bossy, and has a lot less of other bad qualities this (idiot) PM has. My opinions only.

They've had some real statesmen as PM's in Israel. Maybe we'll get another one in the coming election.

Good job Boehner, you too Mr. President, my President. You guys work well together. Time to change parties, John.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:50 PM

40. I think you need a dictionary n/t

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:10 PM

45. Well, it will be interesting

to watch Bibi's address to House members. Will Boehner pull faces?

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:26 PM

46. He's a candy colored clown

a grand buffoon atop a whole pile of republican morons and meatheads

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Thu Jan 22, 2015, 11:00 PM

49. Orange Judas

n/t

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