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Arcadiasix
(255 posts)RIP Brother
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...and was killed by similarly nutty folks.
RIP, sure, OK, I don't wish ill on anyone, but I wish people would resist trying to make a buck out murderous behavior.
Chris Kyle, the author of the best-selling "American Sniper," and Chad Littlefield, also a veteran, were gunned down Saturday afternoon on the grounds of the expansive Rough Creek Lodge and Resort in Glen Rose, Texas, southwest of Fort Worth, law enforcement officials said.
About four hours afterward, and 90 miles from where those two men's bodies were found by a hunting guide, authorities arrested suspect Eddie Ray Routh, 25, on a capital murder warrant.
Routh's family members could not be reached immediately for comment Sunday. No attorney has made a public statement on his behalf.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)but watching the TV commercial for the movie with the sound off, obviously knowing nothing about the plot either, somehow I was reminded of deNiro's demented character in Taxi Driver.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The POS scum should have spent his life behind bars.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)His wife and family endured a lot
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)both here and abroad.
Ramses
(721 posts)May tax dollars be permanently cut for violent psychopaths who think murdering people while collecting a government paycheck is ok.
I truly hope the US military is cut off from all public tax dollars, and a Department of Peace is created.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)
jmowreader
(53,166 posts)"All troops" includes such leading lights of the trooper profession as Lynndie England and Charles Graner...
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He talked about how much he liked killing.
He's the lowest of the low owed no respect whatsoever.
glasshouses
(484 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 25, 2015, 02:32 AM - Edit history (1)
protecting our troops.
'American Sniper' as viewed by real American snipers
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/22/american-sniper-chris-kyle-dakota-meyer-marine-seals-navy-quantico/22168499/
His job is to strike a paralytic fear into the enemy," said Andrew Pedry, a Marine scout sniper section leader in Iraq in 2003.
Snipers are the deadliest assets on the battlefield," said Dakota Meyer, a Marine scout sniper in Iraq in 2007 who received the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest award for valor, for actions in Afghanistan. "It's an asset to everybody."
Using snipers shows the greatest amount of restraint," said Jim Lechner, a retired Army lieutenant colonel who served alongside Kyle in Ramadi, Iraq. "Innocent people are not getting killed."
polly7
(20,582 posts)Which was who, exactly, in Iraq? Iraqi civilians fighting off a foreign military invasion?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The man was a murderous piece of shit.
Hanging was too good for the bastard.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)It hasn't been proved that he actually did shoot any Katrina victims, he only allegedly bragged about it.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)HE bragged about murdering innocent people.
He's nothing but a piece of shit scum.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He's scum shit.
He is deserving of no respect whatsoever.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)is there any proof of what he allegedly claimed?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)So either he is a lying piece of shit scum or he is a murderous piece of shit scum.
Which is it?
And being either is far short of the hero the piece of shit scum is made out to be.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)calling him a lying piece of shit scum?
You can't have it both ways.
As far as being a hero, the Americans who's lives he saved in combat would vehemently disagree with you.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It's either or, I call him a murderous piece of shit scum.
If he's lying he's a lying piece of shit scum.
In either case, he's no hero.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)TimeToEvolve
(303 posts)the guy was a severe psychopath
and psychopaths have no scrupples or respect for life whatsoever.
if he knew he could get away with it ( and in this racist, depraved country one can get away with such an act) he would, and probably did.
that's the way psychos work, they do not experience any feelings of apprehension while or before or after committing an odious, deplorable crime.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)I love how you are siding with him and Sarah Palin on this matter. It fully removes any lingering doubts I may have had about you.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I'm asking questions.
It fully removes any lingering doubts I may have had about you.
You seem to be under the impression that I give a shit about what you think of me.
Well, let me set you straight, I don't give a shit what you think of me, is that clear enough?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The Fox News excuse.
Now you've descended into silliness.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)
Who's truth? Yours? LOL.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Kyle is a piece of shit scumbucket.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Universal truth?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)But I'll give you another chance, if I'm praising him, like you claim, plz post the link for all to see, otherwise, the logical conclusion is that you are less than truthful.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)and lo and behold, it's not there, so the logical conclusion is that you're less than truthful, unless of course you can post it.
Can you?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)If it's so obvious to you, then plz, I beg of you, to post the link of me praising him, it really is quite simple to do.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)phil89
(1,043 posts)a guy who claimed to have murdered 30 people (that is a fact he made the claim, not opinion). That is inexcusable.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I'm not supporting or condemning him, I'm saying that there's absolutely no fucking proof that he actually shot 30 people in NO.
Do you have proof, other than him claiming to have, that he actually did shoot those people?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)This is equivalent to a confession, unless you spin it, which you are likely to do, anyway.
This story became widely known after it appeared in the June 2013 issue of The New Yorker as part of a profile of Chris Kyle. Apparently, Kyle told the story to some Navy SEAL buddies as they were hanging out drinking in his San Diego hotel room one night in early 2012. A few of them in turn relayed the story to the writer of The New Yorker article. Kyle had told them that in 2005, he and another sniper went to New Orleans during Katrina and picked off thirty looters from the top of the Superdome. When the article's writer, Nicholas Schmidle, contacted the U.S. Special Operations Command, or SOCOM, to confirm the story, he was told, "To the best of anyone's knowledge at SOCOM, there were no West Coast SEALs deployed to Katrina." Schmidle then contacted one of Kyle's officers. The SEAL replied, "I never heard that story," adding that it "defies the imagination." -The New Yorker
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)And I don't mean what he claimed, I mean actual proof.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It doesn't take a genius to ask him, so ask him… !
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)And no, you didn't post any proof.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)More than one witness would be probable to the story, but you don't wish to look into it. Fair enough. We all know that you would rather obstruct any real homework be done here.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Did he ever claim he was with anyone else when he allegedly shot those people in NO?
And you don't know shit about me, seems to me that I was vindicated in another thread that you and me tangled in a few weeks ago, so your track record isn't the greatest concerning me.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Who are these "we all know" you speak about? Do you speak for everyone on DU?
EX500rider
(12,564 posts)He told some buddies, (while they were all drinking) who told a writer from the New York Times, who told us...
Really who know what he said with that many interpretations?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)EX500rider
(12,564 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I don't tell tall tales. I guess it's because I'm not a dude who gets drunk with his buddies. When I had a few drinks with other women, it didn't run that way.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cause it has to be one or the other.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)30 people picked off by a sniper in NO would have been splashed all over the national news, and I don't for one second believe that he shot and killed 2 people in Texas either.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He also lied about and slandered Jessi Ventura right? And lost the court case on that one.
This guy would apparently lie about anything. So the movie is fiction. Clint Eastwood lied by omitting the facts about this creep just like right wing teabaggers always do. If reality doesn't fit your propaganda, fuck reality! Make up your own reality!
The sniper was a liar, who knows what he actually did? He sure as hell ain't no hero that's for damn sure.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"others have a differing opinion..."
No doubt, many half-wits and idiots will laud and congratulate him for alleging to kill American civilians...
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)
a kennedy
(35,919 posts)WTHELL??? and we're supposed to salute the dickhead proven or not, just the thought that he bragged about it, just makes me ill. Ugh.. 
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)wrong, but you'll find differing opinions on global warming within that group. like the dopes who think the 2nd amendment says you have the right to have guns. they have the (wrong) opinion that it does. just having an differing opinion doesnt make the opinion right or even valid
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But not on this one.
But there's no actual proof that he shot anyone during the Katrina disaster, just him being a blowhard asshole bragging about something that very likely didn't happen.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)but the making up of such a story is just vile imo.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I wonder if PTSD had anything to do with it?
Not excusing his lies, but just wondering.
I met many a Navy Seal during my military career and never once did any of them brag about their exploits.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)My Uncle (since deceased) lived through D-Day. His hand was blown off.
He would NOT talk about any of it. Ever.
Worked with a Vietnam Vet for years back in the 70's. Same thing. He'd been shot through both arms. I only knew that because I saw the scars. A sweet guy, but when I asked him about the war, he shut me down pretty damn quick.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)If you are seek more polling, conduct a DU poll on it.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)End of fucking message.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)is there actual proof that he did?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Nice hero there.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I'm saying the Americans who's lives he saved in combat would disagree with you.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That's all the proof I need.
You're the one raising him on a pedestal.
The murderous piece of scum says he's murdered innocent Americans.
Fuck the piece of shit.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)then you would be able to post a link of me doing that. Right?
You can post that link can't you, you did, after all, make the claim that I'm praising him.
I'll await with bated breath for that link.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)
jen63
(813 posts)looters from the top of the Superdome. He also claimed he shot two car jackers at an isolated gas station in Texas. Both lies. His wife fought hard to keep these lies out of the Jesse Ventura trial and the judge agreed. She knew they were lies, the closet person to Chris Kyle. These "stories" have been debunked. Film from the gas station were examined and proved that Kyle's story was just that; a story. If you're going to shoot looters after Katrina, you don't choose a US military SEAL to do it. You assign that to the national guard.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Biographer ? The other he relayed to a group of fellow SEALS - are you calling them liars or The hero again a liar?
He killed Americans in the US without due process. What values was he fighting to preserve / install overseas but not honoring at home in the US ? 
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)RU saying that I think he's a hero? Plz post the link where I said he's a hero.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Think he didn't take many innocent lives abroad? Again like torture, not American values . He wanted to kill. And relayed that to his biographer
if someone is claiming to have gotten away with killing many Americans more than once, and happy about being able to avoid the laws of our country ,that doesn't fit hero in my book either - glad you agree
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)nobody on this board knows, but I do agree, in my mind, a true hero doesn't brag about his exploits.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Wow, you're taking a beating here. Where were the autopsy reports people? These "looters" were on the street I assume and not floating in water as they were looting. Looters usually go in groups. Where were the reports of sniper shots? Those 30 must of had family or friends, where are the reports? Where are the bodies? Did he shoot them all at once, or span it out? Since those cops got busted on the bridge, I would think the sniper shootings would have gotten some attention if not more.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)It's amazing to me that people will believe this liar because it fits their agenda.
Every thing you bring up is true, if Kyle had shot 30 looters from the roof of the Superdome, that would have been big time national news.
My conclusion is that Kyle lied about it, as he did with his claim of shooting and killing 2 in Texas.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)in Bush's murderous criminal war. And no civilized nation would call someone who bragged about enjoying killing human beings, hesitating a bit over the child, apparently his first 'kill', disgusting word referring to human beings btw, and boasted about killing Americans during a terrible disaster, in NOLA and in Texas.
The guy was psychopath. I sure hope he isn't representative of our troops 'doing a good job' because if he is, we are in worse trouble than anyone thought.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Fuck that child, he was about to kill several people. That's innocent?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)prefer we just act nice and let them take it.
We had no right to be there, and every Iraqi had the right to fight for their country. Bush and his band of war criminals and liars invaded a country that never harmed this country, for their OIL.
This murderous psycho was exactly the type who would jump at the opportunity to go kill human beings and if he Bush didn't give him the opportunity he would be one of those crazed mass killers we seem to breed here, shooting up malls or whatever. Trying to outdo the last psycho with as many 'kills' as he could before someone stopped him.
We have his word that that is exactly what he did, right here.
It's disgusting to see any support for such sick people. But we are increasingly losing our humanity so I'm not all that surprised. And then we point fingers at others. That's the hypocrisy of it all.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Wouldn't you do the same?
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)repel them, realizing that I may very well lose my life in the process by enemy action.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Say, an enemy sniper for example. An enemy sniper who does a lot of that sort of thing, and also brags of killing dozens of his own countrymen in the aftermath of a weather related disaster in that country. And then there might be some folks in that sniper's country who say "that guy is a murderer, a liar, and overall a total asshat".
And then someone might come along in that guy's country and say "well, that's just your opinion. Others may have a different one". That someone would be kind of a gigantic asshole wouldn't you say?
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)atreides1
(16,799 posts)According to his book...it wasn't a child with an RPG...it was a woman with a hand grenade. But as always with Hollywood...it looks better when the weapon is bigger and the plot provides the "hero" the chance to show how he agonized between his duty and his humanity!
still_one
(98,883 posts)up. what were we doing there in the first place.
The whole thing was based on a lie, and over a million people were killed because of that lie, and that action helped destabilize the whole region.
The media and everyone it seems is obsessed with Kyle, but they do not seem to be concerned in the slightest about the million people that were killed because of our actions.
The American way of rationalization says everything about us as a country, and it isn't very nice
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to those who are the victims. I saw the photos of the dead children. And I will never forget that massive crime.
No one forced this guy to kill anyone. He chose to do it and he enjoyed it.
Most veterans I have ever known did not enjoy war. Most don't even want to talk about it, let alone try to glorify it.
There were good soldiers in that war. Many of them real heroes. But none of them enjoyed it.
Yes, we killed and tortured more than a million human beings. And the killing will go on for gererations due to the WMDs we used, now causing the deaths of future generations, or children born with horrible deformities. I have followed the tragedy of Iraq which once had a better, and free, health care system than ours.
I have read about parents who have lost up to six newborns due to Depleted Uranium, and read the pleading of families to the International community to please help them.
It makes me sick to my stomach to see this murderous rampage glorified. And even sicker to know no one has ever been held accountable for it.
That man was a villain. Nazi soldiers were doing their jobs too, but the world decided after that horrific regime was finally defeated that 'just doing your job' is no excuse when the 'cause' is so horrific.
Americans don't care that we killed over a million human beings. I actually once thought they would, if they knew.
And they have no excuse, it's not like it's hidden or anything.
still_one
(98,883 posts)however, the lies that were perpetuated at that time by our illustrious media, drowned out the very small minority of the press reporting that the war was based on a lie.
The propaganda was full bore at that time.
In fact the reaction reminds me of Mai Lai, which actually got full coverage by the media. After that incident was exposed, there was a large segment of the population justifying that massacre, or at the very least making excuses for it. There was a saying going around by the pro war advocates of Viet Nam at that time, "my country, right or wrong"
Reter
(2,188 posts)He's say I ain't no jarhead! Hoo ya, I'm a Seal! 
glasshouses
(484 posts)
old habits die hard I guess
Oorah
SEALS are Navy, as were UDT and Frogmen before them.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)alarimer
(17,146 posts)He gives one figure, the military another (much lower).
He's a braggart and liar and NO ONE anyone should be calling a hero.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Between royalties from the book and spectacular success of the movie you would think they'd be set for life.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Chris Kyle’s Family Claimed He Donated His Book Proceeds To Veterans’ Charity, But He Kept Most Of The Profits: The National Review debunks the claim that all proceeds of his book went to veterans’ charities. Around 2 percent – $52,000 – went to the charities while the Kyles pocketed $3 million
pa28
(6,145 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Very conservative but their last line sez it all about this guy and the people making him a legend
Any one mumbling liberals, pinkos - it's the national review
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384176/justice-jesse-ventura-was-right-his-lawsuit-j-delgado/page/0/2
glasshouses
(484 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)wasn't because 9/11, because Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Funny that the same people who pushed us to invade Iraq are also the ones who are trying sabotage the talks with Iran
Whose kids are fighting these wars for oil? It sure isn't those who are trying to push us into these "adventures"
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I am therefore expecting that a movie about blood for oil will hit number one at the box office if they feature a lot of heads exploding in red mist with an oil gusher in the background.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Yes, the same disgusting pieces of shit that DEMANDED our sons and daughters die in Iraq, who when it was THEIR TURN TO SERVE like George W Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld (yes, even him, as far as I can tell he never served in combat during his career in the military), and a whole host of other assholes.
In the media of course oreilly, hannity and limbaugh come to mind
Not just they didnt serve but DEMANDED others do.
These same disgusting PUKE FUCKS are going to try like hell to get us into a war with Iran
thanks for reminding us
underahedgerow
(1,232 posts)It takes a nut to begin with, to willfully take human lives for profit. He's just as nuts as the guy who wasted him on the gun range. Fitting end to a guy who was furthest thing from a hero possible.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)he saved in Iraq.
Hmm..I wonder what parts of ANY of his story is true?
psychopaths...lots of em
MFM008
(20,042 posts)Killed by his own stupidity, no remorse for anyone he killed, lied about it, lost in court to Jesse Ventura. Had enough.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)
TimeToEvolve
(303 posts) not a single right winger does.... 
GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)She has no taste?
2banon
(7,321 posts)behavior and attitudes.. she embraces them like a cult follower. great. just what the world needs. one more gun toting psychopath catapulted in the universe of other infamous psychopathic darlings of Reich Wing media giving her full court press. 
frylock
(34,825 posts)people act like this woman is broke because of the civil settlement.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Funny how right wing war monger and propagandist Eastwood conveniently left out what that dirtbag wrote in his own book!
Marr
(20,317 posts)to me.
It wasn't so long ago that even implying a person in uniform was anything less than a saint was very taboo. But after the slow grind of things like Abu Ghraib and a hundred other unflattering incidents that out, along with the publics' general turn against the invasion of Iraq, it's become something that can be talked about.
This American Sniper movie seems like little more than the dying gasp of that unquestioning pro-war sentiment that's all but died out now. It's kind of the Tea Party of movies.