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Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet

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Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet
Nick Bryant
1/22/15 2:55pm Thursday 2:55pm

Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet

Bill Clinton took repeated trips on the " Lolita Express"—the private passenger jet owned by billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein—with an actress in softcore porn movies whose name appears in Epstein's address book under an entry for "massages," according to flight logbooks obtained by Gawker and published today for the first time. The logs also show that Clinton shared more than a dozen flights with a woman who federal prosecutors believe procured underage girls to sexually service Epstein and his friends and acted as a "potential co-conspirator" in his crimes.

Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 in Florida to one count of soliciting underage girls for sex (and one count of adult solicitation), for which he served just over a year in county jail. But sprawling local, state, and federal investigations into the eccentric investor's habit of paying teen girls for "massages"—sessions during which he would allegedly penetrate girls with sex toys, demand to be masturbated, and have intercourse—turned up a massive network of victims, including 35 female minors whom federal prosecutors believed he'd sexually abused. He has reportedly settled lawsuits from more than 30 "Jane Doe" victims since 2008; the youngest alleged victim was 12 years old at the time of her abuse.

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Epstein's predatory past, and his now-inconvenient relationships with a Who's Who of the Davos set, hit the front pages again earlier this month when one of his victims, Virginia Roberts, claimed in a federal court filing that Epstein recruited her as a "sex slave" at the age of 15 and "sexually trafficked [her] to politically-connected and financially-powerful people," including Prince Andrew and attorney Alan Dershowitz. (The latter, the filing claimed, had sex with the victim "on private planes"; Dershowitz vigorously denies the charges, as does Prince Andrew.)
Two female associates of Epstein—the socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein's former assistant Sarah Kellen—have been repeatedly accused in court filings of acting as pimps for him, recruiting and grooming young girls into their network of child sex workers, and frequently participating in sex acts with them. Kellen in particular was believed by detectives in the Palm Beach Police Department, which was the first to start unraveling the operation, to be so deeply involved in the enterprise that they prepared a warrant for her arrest as an accessory to molestation and sex with minors. In the end, she was never arrested or charged, and federal prosecutors granted her immunity in a 2007 non-prosecution agreement that described her as a "potential co-conspirator" in sex trafficking.

Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet
Maxwell, the daughter of the late media mogul Robert Maxwell, has been accused by Roberts of photographing Epstein's victims "in sexually explicit poses and [keeping] the child pornography on her computer," and "engag[ing] in lesbian sex with the underage females she procured for Epstein." She has denied the allegations in the past.

Clinton shared Epstein's plane with Kellen and Maxwell on at least 11 flights in 2002 and 2003—before any of the allegations against them became public—according to the pilots' logbooks, which have surfaced in civil litigation surrounding Epstein's crimes. In January 2002, for instance, Clinton, his aide Doug Band, and Clinton's Secret Service detail are listed on a flight from Japan to Hong Kong with Epstein, Maxwell, Kellen, and two women described only as "Janice" and "Jessica." One month later, records show, Clinton hopped a ride from Miami to Westchester on a flight that also included Epstein, Maxwell, Kellen, and a woman described only as "one female."

Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet
In 2002, as New York has reported, Clinton recruited Epstein to make his plane available for a week-long anti-poverty and anti-AIDS tour of Africa with Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, billionaire creep Ron Burkle, Clinton confidant Gayle Smith (who now serves on Barack Obama's National Security Council), and others. The logs from that trip show that Maxwell, Kellen, and a woman named Chauntae Davis joined the entourage for five days.
That last name—Chauntae Davies—shows up elsewhere in papers unearthed by the various investigations into Epstein's sex ring: his little black book. Davies is one of 27 women listed in the book under an entry for "Massage- California," one of six lists of massage girls Epstein kept in various locales, with a total of 160 names around the globe, many of them underage victims.

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Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet (Original post)	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	OP
Clinton has been named as one of Epstein's closest friends, this crapola has come up before	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#1
bill clinton is an ass hole. Even hanging with people like this	roguevalley	Jan 2015	#17
That's right. Paling around with a pedo. Ojeezus.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#61
I'm not going to go through this again with him, them-either way, true or not his assocations were	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#83
Bill Clinton is the mysogynist here	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#98
Yes it really brings out strong feelings, wives get the shame, shun, anger a lot. Also cuz he's	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#220
It's possible the Clintons have an open relationship.	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#223
I agree, quite possible	get the red out	Jan 2015	#283
We never hear about her with other men or women, though.	merrily	Jan 2015	#335
I have heard that	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#390
What came up first are crappy sources. I meant something more credible than that.	merrily	Jan 2015	#392
What I find fascinating is the seemingly absolute notion.	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#396
Thanks for that implication, but I am not operating off a fairy tale or a notion.	merrily	Jan 2015	#398
Yes,	whathehell	Jan 2015	#427
Well, I don't see how Hillary is to blame	Yo_Mama	Jan 2015	#192
I don't think Hillary is to blame at all. But he's her husband, with a long, difficult past of	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#199
Some women wouldn't vote for Hillary because of this.	Yo_Mama	Jan 2015	#247
See, now, you just articulated what I was thinking about all this brouhaha.	chervilant	Jan 2015	#401
She puts up with it.	merrily	Jan 2015	#336
No way did she know he was involved in this.	Yo_Mama	Jan 2015	#399
I still don't know if he was involved in "this."	merrily	Jan 2015	#412
Kick to the greatest...don't let the media hide this.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#2
+1000 nt	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#8
Absolutely. I'm fairly new, how does this get kicked to The Greatest? Just from more recs?	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#92
After 5 recs it goes onto the greatest page....so many just review that page daily.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#173
That's quite the non-sequitur. "The media" isn't hiding this; I'm sure FOX will be all over it ...	Hekate	Jan 2015	#230
From Game Change:	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#3
Exactly, the reason the party should look beyond the Clinton's for 2016.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#4
Hillary didnt do this....she should file for a legal separation if this is true	adigal	Jan 2015	#135
Hillary knew about it and enabled it, just as she did throughout her marriage.	Divernan	Jan 2015	#177
Many others with the same problems have have held the WH and been in all walks and times	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#217
I think there was even a scandal about Eisenhower and a member of his Army staff.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#380
Eisenhower had a realtionship with Kay Summersby of the Brit. Transport Corps who was his	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#389
I don't think anyone wants Bill as first lady	ripcord	Jan 2015	#239
And Jennifer Flowers before Monica and gawd knows who else....	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#444
With all she's been through, and at her age she might be so weary that the I'd like to kill him	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#204
Gina Gershon was often mentioned.	roguevalley	Jan 2015	#18
I agree.	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#195
Erica Jong can go f herself. Nice articles. Thanks.	roguevalley	Jan 2015	#226
I've seen it here. Feminists calling out Lewinksy and giving Bill the pass.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#236
You've seen it here?	chervilant	Jan 2015	#245
I haven't seen it here either.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#297
I realize this was not addressed to me,	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#303
I am not a Hillary fan, but never posted my reasons.. But, here it is..	OLDMADAM	Jan 2015	#331
Not my biggest reason, but I am sick of having this stuff come up again and again.	merrily	Jan 2015	#338
Remember when democrats sighed a 'whew!' with Edwards, dodging the bullet	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#342
This particular person claimed to be a Feminist, but I didn't believe her	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#304
That is the point.	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#307
He doesn't get a free pass from me.	chervilant	Jan 2015	#313
Sleepless night?	chervilant	Jan 2015	#312
I mentioned an extreme example. There are others who claim and	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#314
Oh...	chervilant	Jan 2015	#316
We do have that in common then, DU repulses me as well at times.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#317
Well, you don't have to worry about that anymore, do you? nt	stevenleser	Feb 2015	#468
True. But if Monica Lewinsky had not wanted the notoriety, she would not have mentioned	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#382
Linda Tripp had a lot to do with the blue dress...	chervilant	Jan 2015	#400
"the dress, which she had been saving a souvenir."	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#405
Are you responding defensively?	chervilant	Jan 2015	#406
Agreed.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#410
If Monica hadn't saved the dress	Yupster	Jan 2015	#421
ughh. She saved the sheets so she could brag about her conquest later. That is my opinion.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#424
Thanks for this, very interesting. Sure, vamp Monica tempted sweet Willy. Right. I recall	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#237
If Lewinsky had not cherished the dress with HIS semen on it, there would have been less	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#381
Bill has a bigger problem than I realized. Just a photo like this looks bad politically, let alone	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#21
OMG! Bill caressing a blonde w/ world's biggest boob job!	Divernan	Jan 2015	#179
You made it sound like he had his hands on her breasts. Instead he is holding her upper arm.	Hekate	Jan 2015	#231
You should use a dictionary. Major undereducated mind there.	Divernan	Jan 2015	#238
Suuuuuuure	Hekate	Jan 2015	#243
This photo was cropped to intentionally make him look bad	Matt_in_STL	Jan 2015	#253
do you have some evidence for that?	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#266
Yep - link below	Matt_in_STL	Jan 2015	#298
Thank you. I appreciate the correction. That's Tricia Nixon Cox's soon to be ex-daughter-in-law?	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#300
Even with her mother in the photo, it still looks creepy.	merrily	Jan 2015	#340
So blame the wife for her husband's alleged actions?	JoePhilly	Jan 2015	#60
Of course	dsc	Jan 2015	#62
Agree, sadly all these rich and powerful people are pretty disgusting, I am learning more and	NoJusticeNoPeace	Jan 2015	#77
Which one will starve us?	bvar22	Jan 2015	#148
Both will, so dont vote for either, and let the one who will kill your pregnant sister in office	NoJusticeNoPeace	Jan 2015	#155
You're confusing me. Are you planning to stay home and not vote, or just telling others to do so?	Hekate	Jan 2015	#232
NO, I am going to vote for the Dem	NoJusticeNoPeace	Jan 2015	#258
Mitch Daniels an interesting example	Yupster	Jan 2015	#422
It is not us who will blame Hillary but it is stupid to believe that the Rs won't and even more to	jwirr	Jan 2015	#127
^^^^This.^^^^ nt	City Lights	Jan 2015	#211
That is exactly what the op researchers and Koch Broths. will do!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#425
Dersh still denying everything.	moondust	Jan 2015	#5
Dirtowitless has scared animal eyes in that clip.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#63
I believe Dershowitz. Until proven otherwise, I will believe the denials of Dershowitz and of	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#121
The Democratic Party has been divided for some time now. The Democratic Wing	rhett o rick	Jan 2015	#137
I watched that interview and Dershowitz was lying his ass off..	snooper2	Jan 2015	#252
Dershowitz is in this up to his neck	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#308
He claims to have never flown with younger women	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#228
It's a serious accusation and should not be believed unless absolutely proven.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#384
Flight logs don't lie. Clinton also flew with him recently after the girl filed the charges.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#6
T^H^I^S is reason enough	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#11
So Hillary shuld be disqualified for the actions of her husband?	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#205
When we have advance knowledge of something like this	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#210
Well, I disagree. I don't think Hillary's candicacy should be sunk because Bill flew with some	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#284
This is where we agree	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#286
If you objectioin is to Secretary Clinton, President Obama, and President Clinton's ecomomic	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#287
Like it or not, that is the way of politics.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#288
I am sure Republians will be happy to know that tarring Hillary with Bill's plane ticket will work.	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#290
Did I just spill the beans and put the future of America at risk?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#291
I prefer to talk policy rather than smear a woman with her husbands actions.	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#293
But it's REPUBLICANS who Hillary will be running against in General Election	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#294
Let us not forget Rev. Wright and THAT guilt by association.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#296
Tarring her with actions tha ther husband may or may not have done is	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#416
How about for her own acts and omissions?	merrily	Jan 2015	#337
Her policies and ideas is what we should look at when we make a decidison about who to support.	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#414
No, not disqualify her. But she will be hammered and people will tire of it and NOT VOTE 4 HILLARY	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#413
Well, I suppose a sexist based attack on her because of something her husband may or may not	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2015	#415
I'll be looking at what she has already done & said	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#417
Sure they do.......	Capt.Rocky300	Jan 2015	#12
Very true, but most of your explanation	Ilsa	Jan 2015	#41
+10. The Bottom Line politically for Hillary & Dems, the rest noise even if some's unfair & untrue.	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#75
It didn't stop Bill, so it shouldn't stop Hillary	treestar	Jan 2015	#90
If it was only that simple & rational. He's not some obscure insurance man in Indiana who strayed	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#233
Yeah but he seems like teflon	treestar	Jan 2015	#244
Tell that to the voters...Bill did it...not Hillary. Oh, and will she be hiding Bill on the trail?	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#466
''He makes John Edwards look like a good guy''	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#100
absurd statement.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#200
Yes Johnnie Boy, golden hair looks kinda stable in hindsight. What a great woman Eliz. Edwards.	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#221
that makes no sense	samsingh	Jan 2015	#277
Not likely here	karynnj	Jan 2015	#54
I often make several flights before I write anything in my logbook	Major Nikon	Jan 2015	#126
Could he have involved all these well known men with the idea that he would be safe even if	jwirr	Jan 2015	#134
But how would you prove that? And wouldn't the damage be done?	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#377
I agree with you completely Major........	Capt.Rocky300	Jan 2015	#193
That was my thought	Major Nikon	Jan 2015	#213
I have a friend who is a private pilot	Yupster	Jan 2015	#423
Did he let the monkey fly the airplane?	Capt.Rocky300	Jan 2015	#428
This is outside my experience also	AngryAmish	Jan 2015	#209
This is nothing more than a pilot recording unnecessary information in his personal logbook	Major Nikon	Jan 2015	#215
In my long and varied career.......	Capt.Rocky300	Jan 2015	#218
So what are we to make of this?	AngryAmish	Jan 2015	#222
See my previous posts.....	Capt.Rocky300	Jan 2015	#229
this should be interesting. nt	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2015	#7
The Return of the Clenis!!!	AnnieBW	Jan 2015	#9
actually, he did flop it out for an intern. It isn't like they	roguevalley	Jan 2015	#19
Totally. I will never forgive him for being led around by his dick like that.	bemildred	Jan 2015	#42
Exact metaphor I always used	jollyreaper2112	Jan 2015	#43
+100. Hasn't learned & doesn't care about the damage & fallout to us. Thanks Bubba.	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#104
Yawn	Beaverhausen	Jan 2015	#10
BFD	Gman	Jan 2015	#13
They does it. I will not vote for Bill Clinton in 2016. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2015	#14
obama has eaten meals with war criminals in the white house. so what nt	msongs	Jan 2015	#15
This is nauseating.	BeanMusical	Jan 2015	#16
Hanging around pedophiles doesn't ever seem to hurt the repubs	Lordquinton	Jan 2015	#20
Very true. Any criminal, womanizing, sociopathic behavior is good for Repubs	Triana	Jan 2015	#23
Weiner vs Vitter, look who came out smelling like rose scented diapers	Lordquinton	Jan 2015	#24
"There is no coincidence that this is in the news again"	Triana	Jan 2015	#28
Ugh	jollyreaper2112	Jan 2015	#44
everyone?	dsc	Jan 2015	#64
You didn't , neither did I, must be a coincidence./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#65
Ugh	jollyreaper2112	Jan 2015	#70
He accidentally posted an underwear pic for seconds before removing it	Lordquinton	Jan 2015	#151
Hell, the mainstream media won't even talk about it unless a Republican politician...	hunter	Jan 2015	#87
Poppy Bush had his own 'Jennifer Problem'	Octafish	Jan 2015	#216
Exactly.	City Lights	Jan 2015	#214
Yes. It's unfair, but that is the way it is.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#378
Welp, so much for Hillary's candidacy	fbc	Jan 2015	#22
A pedophile is a man or woman who is attracted to or has sexual relations...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#25
Proof? You demand proof?	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2015	#26
Let me preface my remarks by saying adults having sex with minors is mala per se.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#29
I agree.	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2015	#30
I know you know what the word means.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#31
"confirmation bias"	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2015	#33
"it is what it is" but you and I can take solace in the fact these attempts will fail...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#35
Let's hope.	Behind the Aegis	Jan 2015	#36
Politics is war by other means.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#37
Whether the story has any truth (and even if Clinton rode in that plane, it does not mean	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#379
You are demanding fairness. But have Republicans ever given Democrats fairness.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#32
Yes, these witch hunts against the Clintons have been unfailingly effective...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#34
I don't understand what you mean here:	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#74
My point is that the Clinton sex scandals end up nowhere.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#76
The fact that a cheater and a pal to a pedophile still has good ratings	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#79
You know who was a practitioner of guilt by association ? This guy	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#85
o yes, the commie card. Pull it out!	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#88
POINT. FLY OVER.HEAD	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#93
exactly the same!	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#96
You are a good student. Pats LawdeeDah on head. Gives him or her a cookie.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#101
Accusing someone of being a communist is not the same	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#103
Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Gayle Smith* were on the manifest?	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#107
woah, you are so far off the branch of topic	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#108
They were on the manifest	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#110
is Spacey running for office? Wow, guess House of Cards	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#111
"Is Spacey running for office? Wow, guess House of Cards gives him an edge"	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#116
Spacey does not like young girls	AngryAmish	Jan 2015	#212
OK. Three scenarios are possible here. (Maybe more but I see three right away.)	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#113
Yet with all this Bill Clinton has a current favorability rating of 64%...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#118
Yeah that won't last long if any of this is true	rjsquirrel	Jan 2015	#302
Good post but I have to strongly disagree with one of your statements.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#120
You are very, very correct about this point. Thank you.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#388
The last honest, clean candidate was Jimmy Carter?	karynnj	Jan 2015	#324
I don't think that Kerry or Gore Or Mondale were even questioned about their sex lives or	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#391
Was that condescending post supposed to rile me up or something?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#115
I have never lost an argument. My record is as pristine as this fella:	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#119
I don't watch baseball.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#123
He's a jockey./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#124
you're saying that hilary associating with her husband is the same as an actor unknowingly	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#125
Another guy or gal who misses the point.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#128
so hilary and bill are now analogous to two strangers on a plane? yeah, i guess i miss your	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#129
Bill Clinton had no idea Jeffrey Epstein was a ped	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#131
How do you know this? Did you have one of those magical lunches with him?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#132
Know what?	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#136
so bill's in the habit of hopping on planes with people who haven't been vetted? i doubt it.	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#139
And their affiliation ended well before his activities were known./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#144
When did it end, exactly? That's a point I've been unable to find any discussion of.	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#152
Look at how old the flight logs are./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#160
iow, you don't know.	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#162
Good point. Yet see how easily that fact is overlooked.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#394
Do you teach Can'tMakeAClearPoint 101, is that why you have cookies on you?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#130
Those are for my students	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#141
Ah, would explain the education system and the falling behind in world standards.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#145
Only those poor lads and lasses who missed my courses./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#147
Gads, this is not about a sex life vs. privacy issue! This is about sex slaves and minors!!!!!!!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#471
His accusations, almost entirely false, held Americans in suspense. He ruined many lives, but	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#385
I rather be accused of being a communist than a pedohile.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#387
You sir, have it precisely correct.	99Forever	Jan 2015	#56
Well Said	vankuria	Jan 2015	#67
+1000	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#109
+1000. Regardless of Repugs doing the same, they control most $, media & spin. In his	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#78
A progressive blog doesn't need proof, if we don't like someone	still_one	Jan 2015	#138
You win post of the day./NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#142
That someone has laid himself a history of deceit and fibs.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#149
except reading this thread it seems they are accusing Hillary by proxy	still_one	Jan 2015	#201
I don't see that, what I see is that she will be hurt by this if she runs.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#219
I am not sure if that is the no brainier you suggest. Are people going to be more concerned with	still_one	Jan 2015	#225
fine, have it your way - a candidate whose husband was involved with a pedophile is no big deal.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#227
I didn't say it would or would not, I said you cannot predict. Bill Clinton had a BJ in the oval	still_one	Jan 2015	#234
Ayres and Wright were petty, peripheral issues in Obama's case.	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#395
I hope this isn't the reason the country doesn't want HRC. She has her own baggage. nm	rhett o rick	Jan 2015	#140
Blaming "the vast right wing conspiracy" on TV for "lying" about Monica to hurt her poor dear hubby	merrily	Jan 2015	#344
No problem, as Bill isn't one.	Beacool	Jan 2015	#409
Welp, that's an unfortunate association, right there.	TwilightGardener	Jan 2015	#27
Teen ‘Sex Slave’ Reveals Alleged Details Of Bill Clinton’s Trip To Jeffrey Epstein’s Orgy Island	PoliticAverse	Jan 2015	#38
Since this is an ersatz porn thread I'll post the money shot.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#39
The 'prooogreeessssivvves' on this thread believe all of this story... except that part. LOL.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#50
Many of the so called progressives were as enamored of the Lewinski brouhaha...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#59
But WHY hang out with a perv? Again and again...when you wife wants to be the President????	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#437
You love bumping this thread.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#438
"Sex jet"	BeyondGeography	Jan 2015	#40
I saw that tabloid headline the other day actually	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#46
Classic honey trap. So was Monica.	leveymg	Jan 2015	#45
Sadly, an "it was the JOOOOOOS" post was almost inevitable.	NuclearDem	Jan 2015	#47
Not the first time that Bill fell into one. Gordon . . .	leveymg	Jan 2015	#48
Thanks for mentioning Thomas's book Gideon's Spies.. I have been meaning to read it..	2banon	Jan 2015	#84
Your JOOOOOOS don't equal the government of Israel.	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#51
big fucking deal and so what! there are things people can argue with this, but big fucking deal?	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#49
+1 well said nt	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2015	#143
whatsamatta with old guys looking for sex?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#163
+10	840high	Jan 2015	#402
Epstein isn't a pedophile	fishwax	Jan 2015	#52
Lulz for defending a registered sex offender...	Jesus Malverde	Jan 2015	#53
I didn't defend him.	fishwax	Jan 2015	#55
I subscribe to the "if you look under thirty" policy you need to provide identification.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#57
Maybe you missed the part about being held against their will. nt	B2G	Jan 2015	#66
No, I didn't miss that	fishwax	Jan 2015	#114
I don't think 'Ephebophilia' is specifically against the law.	Marr	Jan 2015	#71
no, but rape is	fishwax	Jan 2015	#117
Good point.	Marr	Jan 2015	#133
"I did Not have sex with that woman". Not even remotely since sex only involves intercourse,	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#156
I'm sorry, but I don't think I understand your post	fishwax	Jan 2015	#166
No I didn't write that Epstein is a pedophile, you did. From your posts, you are very	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#180
sorry, but you're not making any sense. And I didn't write that. I wrote the opposite	fishwax	Jan 2015	#196
Why on earth are you asking if I think Clinton is a pedophile based on the Lewinsky lie he told to	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#203
I see your point about Clinton now	fishwax	Jan 2015	#224
That's interesting about concern for victims and their healing & coping. 5 years ago I found	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#235
It means he's a statutory rapist. Serial - & ephebophile.	Yo_Mama	Jan 2015	#194
I agree completely	fishwax	Jan 2015	#198
Epstein own sister said after 15 Epstein no longer wanted them for himself. Too old 15 is for him.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#356
Reason number 3,487 this crazy family has zero business even considering a WH run.	tridim	Jan 2015	#58
Thank you. nt	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#68
Absolutely. And for those that separate Hillary and Bill like they were strangers	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#72
Well. I may have my faults,	Nye Bevan	Jan 2015	#69
What about a plain ordinary sex jet?	treestar	Jan 2015	#91
Unless you count JetBlue flights to Florida as "sex jets", I would have to say no.	Nye Bevan	Jan 2015	#154
What to call the looney guy on Virgin Air who was going at it solo in the aisle & attendants had	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#187
oops.. My guess is this will kill HRC's presidential run.	2banon	Jan 2015	#73
So, was Hillary on those flights?	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#80
Are you serious?	2banon	Jan 2015	#86
You may remember that Bill Clinton was elected to a second term,	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#89
If memory serves, Lewinsky revelations came out in second term.	2banon	Jan 2015	#94
I think you're in for some real surprises in the next two years.	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#95
I hope they're pleasant surprises.. :)	2banon	Jan 2015	#97
For some they'll be pleasant, anyhow.	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#99
Yes it will be interesting to see who will be selected as the nominee..	2banon	Jan 2015	#102
I'm not concerned with what the right wing does.	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#105
This one was easy.	OilemFirchen	Jan 2015	#122
I don't rely on memory. I rely on facts.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#182
Yeah I remember all that, too well. And the shocker, ugly Jenifer Flowers six year Texas	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#168
Gawd, your post made me realize	Arugula Latte	Jan 2015	#257
bratty manchild	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#325
This story is about young girls held captive and used as sex slaves.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#175
Actually, it's about a former President flying on an airplane.	OilemFirchen	Jan 2015	#191
and? It's no secret that I don't trust or like the Clintons	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#240
It's the difference in how much cash you have vs. the Koch Bros.	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#472
Systematic pedophilia is one of my personal, "unsubstantiated" conspiracies about the powerful.	RadiationTherapy	Jan 2015	#81
.	MohRokTah	Jan 2015	#82
so what countries supplied the underage hookers?	quadrature	Jan 2015	#106
Why did you leave the US out?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#146
There is an actress named Chauntae Davies on IMDB	kwassa	Jan 2015	#112
Interesting... the author of this article...	OKNancy	Jan 2015	#150
many more sources out there.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#153
Not making it up. I don't think it's any big deal however. But this guy has an agenda	OKNancy	Jan 2015	#157
Riding on an airplane used for crime does make a story	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#158
Back in the 90s A LOT of sources picked up on initial stories	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#159
I see nerves are getting twitchy.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#161
You don't see anything	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#164
DU is a hotpot of gossip and speculation.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#165
True enough	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#167
Okay then, be as careful as you like.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#171
I was there, Bill WAS the "progressive savior" we voted for, then didn't get.	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#174
Dude, Jerry Brown was the 'progressive' choice in '92.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#178
But it was fact, I was there. Just b/c Jerry Brown was considered more left, doesn't	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#183
You'll find very few Democrats who thought Bill Clinton was a progressive saviour	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#184
Well, we figured that out once he took office. Hindsight is 20/20. nt	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#185
Bill Clinton campaigned as a centrist. If you thought he was a progressive savior ...	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#186
Wrong again. Here's his populist campaign speech from 1992~	RiverLover	Jan 2015	#188
I haven't been wrong yet	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#190
oh baloney. you're the revisionist.	ND-Dem	Jan 2015	#267
oh baloney. you're the revisionist.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#275
This message was self-deleted by its author	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#169
Kick!!!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#170
Wow!	MissDeeds	Jan 2015	#172
We need something to keep us entertained until the next round of polls...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jan 2015	#176
If a Republican did something like this...oh, wait...	Atman	Jan 2015	#181
This crosses party lines.....	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#189
All the time?	philosslayer	Jan 2015	#197
Yes, I have LITERALLY thousands of them.	Atman	Jan 2015	#206
From the Franklin Scandal...	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#419
So 13 years ago, Bill Clinton was friends with someone	cheapdate	Jan 2015	#202
Not the first time Clinton associated with Epstein before or after his arrest.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#246
Oh! My heavens! Billionaire pedophile sex toys at Chelsea's wedding?!?	cheapdate	Jan 2015	#249
The powerful think they are impervious. They buy their way out of things us ordinary peasants can't.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#386
The Dastardly Clenis has learned to FLY!	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2015	#207
Party over personal ambitions. Hillary represents an unacceptable risk	LittleBlue	Jan 2015	#208
+++	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#285
Monica all over again? She just came out with a book and is ready to hit the trail too!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#403
Apparently Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for Clinton on “burner phones.”	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#241
"Apparently" we have people here doing the work for Repubs	zappaman	Jan 2015	#242
and '''''Apparently'''''', losing the Gen to a Repug all in the name of	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#248
Maybe you should try Whisp...	zappaman	Jan 2015	#250
lol. That's all you got?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#254
Maybe I should ask JaydenD? n/t	zappaman	Jan 2015	#259
are you host or mirt? i know you are often. are you using the discussion in that exclusive group	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#263
Call out? No, I'm Whisp...	zappaman	Jan 2015	#264
wtf are you talking about? i do not want to hunt the info, if you are mirt. i asked. i am also	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#265
I wasn't positive until you confirmed it, so thanks!	zappaman	Jan 2015	#273
if this is indicative of you thinking process, it is a fail. you walked into this thread and made	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#278
Actually I have called out returning misogynist trolls.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#280
and yet, you continue to ignore the question, if you use your mirt privilege to call out a poster.	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#281
Who says I'm on MIRT? n/t	zappaman	Jan 2015	#282
which was the first thing i asked on this stupid little subthread. and asked again, and again.	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#289
The list of current MIRT is in the Announcements group.	tammywammy	Jan 2015	#327
yes. i know it is posted. i didnt know where. i didnt want to hunt. hence, a simple question.	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#332
someone emailed me the jury results from one of those posts	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#355
Yes, it's interesting to see who likes to return here after being banned.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#359
indeed	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#363
Why should I do your work for you?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#362
you can play this silly game thru out this subthread, but answering a simple question is "work"	seabeyond	Jan 2015	#364
I know of someone on another board now that was driven away from here because	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#366
I follow you around?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#367
A pattern seems to be emerging!	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#369
The pattern seems....whispy.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#370
You must be onto something!	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#372
ask the Great Karnak if you like.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#268
Do you know what a pedophile is?	Beaverhausen	Jan 2015	#261
no, I don't know what a peophile is.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#269
Do you have proof of that other than Gawker?	Beaverhausen	Jan 2015	#251
Story is developing, speculation and gossip are expected.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#255
you are the one who said it.	Beaverhausen	Jan 2015	#260
You won't get any answer.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#262
Sorry, I can't help you with hiding a story like this.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#272
Funny that I am getting such special attention from a certain group since	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#270
A certain group? what the fuck does that mean?	Beaverhausen	Jan 2015	#274
Apparently WALKING DEAD is back.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#276
There are some very stalwart Clinton fans here - that group.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#279
I'm so sick of this stuff.	leftyladyfrommo	Jan 2015	#256
Best OP ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!	NCTraveler	Jan 2015	#271
So we're doing guilt by association now?	alarimer	Jan 2015	#292
Well thank God he is not running for President.	dilby	Jan 2015	#295
some things truly are inevitable.	reddread	Jan 2015	#299
Meh.	Spider Jerusalem	Jan 2015	#301
in rhis case think critically about the messenger	olddots	Jan 2015	#305
it's a legitimate news story	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#306
because Papantonio and Wayne Madsen say so?	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#309
from court records & because it's newsworthy	AtomicKitten	Jan 2015	#310
Because the smoking gun says so?	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#311
So all this is part of some vast, right wing conspiracy?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#318
You tell us.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#319
Deny it all you like, it's not a false story.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#321
It's your conclusions that are in doubt	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#322
I'm glad you brought up the Guilt by Association, reminds me of Rev. Wright	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#323
Completely irrelevant, but if you MUST go there...	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#328
You brought up Guilt by Association.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#333
Good to see you're admitting your obsession with this story is guilt by association.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#341
Me thinking Hillary is unfit for Presidency is not retaliating against attacks on Obama.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#343
But it is what you just said. Flip flop?	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#346
That's out of line to say the poster should go to FR or Faux.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#353
I remember once...	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#354
Pretty much, yeah	zappaman	Jan 2015	#360
this is only the tip of whats coming from the Horn Dog	reddread	Jan 2015	#315
Horn Dog? Right wing sources and now right wing insults?	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#320
Grasping at Straws:	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#326
No, just fond memories of a DU not so infested with right wing talking points	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#329
and you hold this same point of view when the President, for example, is called a Piece of Shit	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#334
So you're saying this in retaliation for people disrespecting the President?	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#339
No. but I notice how the rules for Hillary and the rules for Obama are quite different.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#345
You deny, then confirm again this is about attacks on Obama.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#347
whatever floats your boat, I sort went flaccid caring what you think.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#349
Apparently it's what floats yours	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#350
+10	appalachiablue	Jan 2015	#352
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2015	#330
I'm sick of hearing about Clinton's escapades, but I don't know how reliable flight logs are.	merrily	Jan 2015	#348
I'm not solid on the time line here, but am pretty sure Clinton was called	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#351
"I'm not solid on the time line"	zappaman	Jan 2015	#361
Hi, you again? Did you lose something you think I have?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#368
It all depends on what the meaning of the word 'log' is. n/t	benz380	Jan 2015	#365
I have not had communications relationships with 21 burner phones...	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#374
Epstein had 26 phone numbers for Bill Clinton. That is NOT just an aquaintance!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#357
What the ?! Who has that many phone numbers?!	Arugula Latte	Jan 2015	#358
APPARENTLY they were 'burner' phones - used to avoid leaving trails in illegal activities.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#371
SOME would say (FOX News 101: Lesson One)	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#375
But 25 of those numbers were 867-5309.	Karmadillo	Jan 2015	#373
Ahhh, it's so nice to come to a Democratic site such as this one.	Beacool	Jan 2015	#376
where we remember Gary Hart, Willie Horton and all the other lessons conveniently forgot.	reddread	Jan 2015	#383
Try to remember that Bill Clinton is not running for office.	Beacool	Jan 2015	#393
you might want to explain that to oppo research	reddread	Jan 2015	#397
Don't count on it. All the campaign defense is so co$tly. Koch will hit every voter mailbox!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#404
And now here comes Bengazi	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#407
My oh my...this is the most interesting thread of the year, but not because of the topic.	Rex	Jan 2015	#408
Ironic	autorank	Jan 2015	#411
Now Hillary is postponing....	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#418
PS. That rumor came from Politico, saying she wanted to work on her message	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#420
Weekend kickoff! Dershowitz should tell the truth, or it will continue to spread!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#426
How do you know he's not telling the truth?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#429
I read the court complaint, you can't make up what she said. Says had sex with Dersh several times!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#431
"you can't make up what she said"	zappaman	Jan 2015	#434
i will put down $100 that this is another crazy clinton conspiracy	La Lioness Priyanka	Jan 2015	#430
The last time Epstein was popped it was said and shown he's a very close friend of Bill's.	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#432
saturday kick!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#433
Not so much about what they have on Clinton other than continued association with a known pedo	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#435
sunday kick!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#436
Monday kick along with the clinton poll showing lackluster support against Warren	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#439
PS. Dershbag will be hitting the nooze shows again we hear....	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#440
Kick! While we push for Warren and Sanders...Koch's will be using this!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#441
OH DEAR! The accuser is now naming (GASP!) Tipper Gore!!	wyldwolf	Feb 2015	#442
Laugh all you want. This is not the first time Clinton has been associated with this known perv	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#445
But it's the first time for Al and Tipper Gore. And Chris Rock and Kevin Spacey... maybe...	wyldwolf	Feb 2015	#448
Fiat justitia ruat caelum!	laserhaas	Feb 2015	#443
Exactly!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#446
Oh my god....you are the perfect addition to this thread. nt	msanthrope	Feb 2015	#459
may very own personal naysay, groupie	laserhaas	Feb 2015	#467
Eccentric investor? That's too coy by half. The guy is a convicted pedophile. It isn't slander to	Monk06	Feb 2015	#447
The media is involved as well. All tools.....of control. Just like the pics Epstein has!!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#449
The Daily Mail story on this similar to Gawker!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#450
Start naming the republicans who participated in Epstiens brothel.	Dont call me Shirley	Feb 2015	#451
I can't but I guarantee You , there are scads . n/t	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2015	#453
As good as a manager as he was , he's a misanthrope of the highest order	orpupilofnature57	Feb 2015	#452
Everything has been corrputed via pedophile rings....	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#454
Saturday kick....this case will be a problem when we least want it to be....	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#455
Hey!!! nt	msanthrope	Feb 2015	#456
Now a more comprehensive story on the pedo rings and Epstein by Veterans Today KICK	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#457
TLDR	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#458
The general population has not read this stuff....been going on since the 80's!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#460
I'll give you another kick.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#461
Thanks! This is the history thread that shows how it really works!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#462
Veterans Today is an anti-Semitic hate site.	tammywammy	Feb 2015	#463
Gawker did the story here. The Vet Today is a collage of other MSM news story over the years	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#464
PS. What does your comment have to do with Prince Andrew? Or Clinton continuing his relationship	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#465
Then it should not be tolerated here, not for one second	randys1	Feb 2015	#476
Now there's more here. The 'money bomb' and Clinton's 81million connection!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#469
Thursday kick, lets address THIS NOW....media. What are they waiting for?	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#470
You seem to have a fascination with the GREAT AND POWERFUL Clenis.	MohRokTah	Feb 2015	#477
Classic zombie thread	Jesus Malverde	Feb 2015	#473
And return again after the primary....	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#474
More coming out when court case progresses....it will be a real shit show.	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#475
This OP is a month old.	lpbk2713	Feb 2015	#478
They'll probably quit kicking it shortly after you do	Fumesucker	Feb 2015	#481
I'll quit if you will.	lpbk2713	Feb 2015	#482
I've only posted the once before in this thread	Fumesucker	Feb 2015	#486
Is there going to be rape charges?	nilesobek	Feb 2015	#479
It's human trafficking but Epstein has a record of not being charged.	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#484
I'm Ready for Hillary to Announce she is NOT Running	Dems to Win	Feb 2015	#480
This thread started a month ago, I hope you didn't hold your breath waiting	LynneSin	Feb 2015	#483
It's not just Gawker! This will come out when it's going to hurt the most; count on it!	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#485
You have heard of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News	LynneSin	Feb 2015	#487
Bill Clinton has close ties to a man who's been arrested for human trafficking BEFORE. Faux wannabe?	TheNutcracker	Feb 2015	#488
We are talking the same network that brings up Benghazi all the time	LynneSin	Feb 2015	#489

Response to TheNutcracker (Original post)

Sun Jan 25, 2015, 01:29 AM

TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)

1. Clinton has been named as one of Epstein's closest friends, this crapola has come up before

Not good for the upcoming race. This girl pressing charges did not just do this recently. This came out over a year ago. Now that the papers are winding through the courts, it's coming out.
After she filed charges, Clinton was flying with him again.

To keep Epstein alive? He must stay alive, so the 'pictures' don't come into play. This girl who was trafficked says the homes were outfitted with cameras. Ala Larry E. King of the Franklin Scandal!

Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet

1. Clinton has been named as one of Epstein's closest friends, this crapola has come up before

17. bill clinton is an ass hole. Even hanging with people like this

61. That's right. Paling around with a pedo. Ojeezus.

83. I'm not going to go through this again with him, them-either way, true or not his assocations were

98. Bill Clinton is the mysogynist here

220. Yes it really brings out strong feelings, wives get the shame, shun, anger a lot. Also cuz he's

223. It's possible the Clintons have an open relationship.

283. I agree, quite possible

335. We never hear about her with other men or women, though.

390. I have heard that

392. What came up first are crappy sources. I meant something more credible than that.

396. What I find fascinating is the seemingly absolute notion.

398. Thanks for that implication, but I am not operating off a fairy tale or a notion.

427. Yes,

192. Well, I don't see how Hillary is to blame

199. I don't think Hillary is to blame at all. But he's her husband, with a long, difficult past of

247. Some women wouldn't vote for Hillary because of this.

401. See, now, you just articulated what I was thinking about all this brouhaha.

336. She puts up with it.

399. No way did she know he was involved in this.

412. I still don't know if he was involved in "this."

2. Kick to the greatest...don't let the media hide this.

8. +1000 nt

92. Absolutely. I'm fairly new, how does this get kicked to The Greatest? Just from more recs?

173. After 5 recs it goes onto the greatest page....so many just review that page daily.

230. That's quite the non-sequitur. "The media" isn't hiding this; I'm sure FOX will be all over it ...

3. From Game Change:

4. Exactly, the reason the party should look beyond the Clinton's for 2016.

135. Hillary didnt do this....she should file for a legal separation if this is true

177. Hillary knew about it and enabled it, just as she did throughout her marriage.

217. Many others with the same problems have have held the WH and been in all walks and times

380. I think there was even a scandal about Eisenhower and a member of his Army staff.

389. Eisenhower had a realtionship with Kay Summersby of the Brit. Transport Corps who was his

239. I don't think anyone wants Bill as first lady

444. And Jennifer Flowers before Monica and gawd knows who else....

204. With all she's been through, and at her age she might be so weary that the I'd like to kill him

18. Gina Gershon was often mentioned.

195. I agree.

226. Erica Jong can go f herself. Nice articles. Thanks.

236. I've seen it here. Feminists calling out Lewinksy and giving Bill the pass.

245. You've seen it here?

297. I haven't seen it here either.

303. I realize this was not addressed to me,

331. I am not a Hillary fan, but never posted my reasons.. But, here it is..

338. Not my biggest reason, but I am sick of having this stuff come up again and again.

342. Remember when democrats sighed a 'whew!' with Edwards, dodging the bullet

304. This particular person claimed to be a Feminist, but I didn't believe her

307. That is the point.

313. He doesn't get a free pass from me.

312. Sleepless night?

314. I mentioned an extreme example. There are others who claim and

316. Oh...

317. We do have that in common then, DU repulses me as well at times.

468. Well, you don't have to worry about that anymore, do you? nt

382. True. But if Monica Lewinsky had not wanted the notoriety, she would not have mentioned

400. Linda Tripp had a lot to do with the blue dress...

405. "the dress, which she had been saving a souvenir."

406. Are you responding defensively?

410. Agreed.

421. If Monica hadn't saved the dress

424. ughh. She saved the sheets so she could brag about her conquest later. That is my opinion.

237. Thanks for this, very interesting. Sure, vamp Monica tempted sweet Willy. Right. I recall

381. If Lewinsky had not cherished the dress with HIS semen on it, there would have been less

21. Bill has a bigger problem than I realized. Just a photo like this looks bad politically, let alone

179. OMG! Bill caressing a blonde w/ world's biggest boob job!

231. You made it sound like he had his hands on her breasts. Instead he is holding her upper arm.

238. You should use a dictionary. Major undereducated mind there.

243. Suuuuuuure

253. This photo was cropped to intentionally make him look bad

266. do you have some evidence for that?

298. Yep - link below

300. Thank you. I appreciate the correction. That's Tricia Nixon Cox's soon to be ex-daughter-in-law?

340. Even with her mother in the photo, it still looks creepy.

60. So blame the wife for her husband's alleged actions?

62. Of course

77. Agree, sadly all these rich and powerful people are pretty disgusting, I am learning more and

148. Which one will starve us?

155. Both will, so dont vote for either, and let the one who will kill your pregnant sister in office

232. You're confusing me. Are you planning to stay home and not vote, or just telling others to do so?