HRC is even MORE inevitable than she was in 2008.

[Oklahoma_Liberal]

Don'tcha know?



Go Warren!

[hrmjustin]

1. Warren is not running.

[GeorgeGist]

25. Neither is Hillary.

[hrmjustin]

27. Hillary will run.

Warren has made clear she won't.

Of course I could be wrong.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. yeah and???

Warren isn't running....sorry

[OKNancy]

3. Actually, she is

However, neither of our votes will count in the general except as a matter of pride.

At least for me it will make me proud to vote for the first female President of the USA.

[Autumn]

4. Hillary is simply the most talked about. She nor Liz are running at this time.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. thread winner.

[unblock]

6. yeah cuz there's a really really good chance that hillary's not running.

really.

[Autumn]

7. There certainly is a chance. And of course we can always have hope

that she doesn't run. Fingers crossed here.

[brooklynite]

8. Given the choice btw finding a candidate who wants to run, and dreaming about Warren, your choice is

???

[Autumn]

9. My choice is Bernie, who says he may run. We know yours.

[BlueCaliDem]

10. I really like Senator Sanders, but he doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hades to win.

My desire to have another Democrat in the White House trumps my personal wants and needs, and above all else, I want a WINNER. As a Liberal and a Democrat, I want to WIN. I hope to see another Democrat in the White House for eight more years after Obama departs from it. And I don't see Senator Sanders as the one to do it. I just don't.

[HappyMe]

11. Does that mean Democrats wouldn't vote for him in the general election?

[brooklynite]

13. A handful on the conservative edge might not (think "Reagan Democrats").....

...but the boot line is that you can't win with just Democrats. You need some independents and moderate Republicans, and I don't see Sanders appealing to them.

[BlueCaliDem]

17. On the off-chance that he would win the Democratic primaries? Of course we will! But

Democrats alone can't get enough votes to win from the Republicans, mainly because many are pretty anti-Party-of-any-kind a la Occupy Wall Street-types, and will "vote their conscience" which could mean, they won't vote at all.

Independents win elections. We need Independents, and the majority of Independents are not liberal. Together with moderate Democrats, it's my opinion that these two groups will not vote for Senator Sanders.

[Autumn]

16. I would rather get the country back on the right track where the poor and working class

get an even break. That's the win I'm looking for. I don't see how more of the same is a win.

[BlueCaliDem]

18. I would rather stand with the Party that has brought this country back on track for the poor and

working class. Voting third-Party or for a fringe candidate in the general is giving your vote to the Republicans.

The Teabaggers, too, want their version of getting this country back on track, but they'll rush out to vote for the establishment members because they'd rather hold their noses and "pull the lever" than allow a godless, minority-lovin', gun-hatin' Democrat to win. Maybe voters like you should take a page out of their playbook and do the same for the Party that's actually closest to the Left's ideals?

[Autumn]

23. Well see here's the problem, I'm just not a teabgger, because I can see the long picture.

You go right on ahead and take a page out of their book, I'm gonna pass. Sometimes you gotta start at the bottom and work your way up. Now you go look up how much of the wealth in this country is concentrated at the top and how well they have done since the democrats have shifted to the center and come back and tell me just how you figure this country is back on track for the poor and the working class. Cause guess what? A lot of the poor and the working class just ain't feeling it. Maybe that why your little slogans and threats about losing to republicans just aren't working anymore.

[winter is coming]

21. +1. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I don't believe people realize what a phenomenal candidate Barack Obama was in 2008...

I don't believe people realize what a phenomenal candidate Barack Obama was in 2008 and the zeitgeist he tapped into.

[geek tragedy]

22. And he had the most important characteristic of a candidate--he wanted the job.

Candidates who have to be pushed into running . . . Fred Dalton Thompson was probably the most successful.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. In retrospect she lost to a great candidate.

I don't think you can infer much more from that primary season other than if there's a once in a millennium candidate he or she has a chance of upsetting Clinton.

[dsc]

14. everyone misunderstood the kind of race 2008 was

Usually in a primary someone in the mid 40's, which is where she was, is in a very strong position. Once other candidates drop out they go to other candidates usually including the one with the mid 40's. Instead she was in Landrieu's position with no one knowing it. Now, she is well above 50 and the primary won't be as 'partisan' as the one in 08. The Democrats were divided into two parties in 08 so that pretty much no one who wasn't for Hilary at the start joined her later (she also didn't lose any of her supporters). Thus she started and ended in the 40's just like Landrieu did. Frankly, she is in way better position this time. Could she lose? Yes, she could. But I frankly have never heard of any well known candidate have a lead like this and be over 50 in a multi candidate race lose.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Maybe. But, because earthquakes and hurricanes are inevitable doesn't mean we have to like them.

[Ramses]

19. "Its Her Turn"..TM

[geek tragedy]

20. Does anyone else want the Democratic nomination besides Hillary and Jim Webb? nt

[Renew Deal]

26. Actually, she is

The prospect of Obama loomed large in 2008. There's no competition like that this time around. Biden is the next one up after her and I don't think he's polling above 15%. I don't think there is even a Democrat not previously mentioned that has a decent chance. Barring a major surprise like a moral/criminal issue, she will cruise.

[WhiteTara]

28. Are you a troll throwing flamebait?

And She is more inevitable than in 2008. What do you have against a powerful woman running the country. Warren will be a great Senate leader and between the 2, we shall have a fine government.