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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 07:04 AM Jan 2015

Yet Another State Threatens to Penalize Solar Power Users

http://www.alternet.org/yet-another-state-threatens-penalize-solar-power-users



Despite poll after poll showing that Americans want more clean energy, Indiana legislators are pushing bills that would reduce energy efficiency and make it harder for Hoosier state residents to go solar, just as the solar industry is getting on its feet in the state.

Last week, Indiana’s Senate Utilities Committee heard from a packed room about its bill that would let utilities set energy efficiency goals. Last year the state decided to end the popular Energizing Indiana efficiency program. Now some in the legislature have created Senate Bill 412, which is very one-sided in favor of utilities who sell electricity and doesn’t protect the average person from monopoly interests.

Energy efficiency is a proven tool to lower electricity bills and save money for people across the state. Handing control of these programs over to companies that are in the business of selling more electricityjeopardizes Indiana’s progress on energy efficiency.

And many Indiana residents spoke their mind and delivered that message during the hearing.
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Yet Another State Threatens to Penalize Solar Power Users (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2015 OP
Just like Ohio. RiverLover Jan 2015 #1
Just like Wisconsin. Scuba Jan 2015 #12
It's already here.... daleanime Jan 2015 #13
Amazing what greed can do newfie11 Jan 2015 #2
They should just cut to the chase and tax people for breathing and send the proceeds to Koch n2doc Jan 2015 #3
I live behind the Hoosier Iron Curtain and let me tell you, the republicans in this state B Calm Jan 2015 #4
That state, Indiana, must be run by Neanderthals. Trillo Jan 2015 #5
You can't blame this on 'big oil' TransitJohn Jan 2015 #14
Since when is oligarchy distinguished by significant difference? Trillo Jan 2015 #20
Words have meanings, it's not my fault. eom TransitJohn Jan 2015 #21
Who said you were at fault? Trillo Jan 2015 #22
No. TransitJohn Jan 2015 #23
I didn't use "oil erroneously as a synonym for oligarchy" Trillo Jan 2015 #24
Blue flamingo strawberry TransitJohn Jan 2015 #30
Indiana is solidly Repubic The Wizard Jan 2015 #6
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #7
Of course there is big money in the processing of fossil fuels mrdmk Jan 2015 #8
A.L.E.C. ? Hoppy Jan 2015 #9
I know ALEC has some model bills that do this very thing rurallib Jan 2015 #10
Pretty awful step backwards from the state that has one of the largest Wind farms in the US BlueEye Jan 2015 #11
Republicans are trapped between science and superstition to guide public policy. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #15
vote republican and this is what you get Botany Jan 2015 #16
Sorry wrong people to blame. Skip voting and this is what you get LynneSin Jan 2015 #17
You're right but the lower turn out of the Ds was the goal of the Koch/Media/Republican structure Botany Jan 2015 #19
Well, you can be pissed forever at the apathetic intermittent voters, Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #26
Another Alternet fail Android3.14 Jan 2015 #18
The story on alternet is true. Your post is a RW fail. RiverLover Jan 2015 #27
I never said it was untrue. I said Alternet is lazy Android3.14 Jan 2015 #28
they are in the pockets of big interests Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #25
We've been hearing rumblings about this in Colorado mountain grammy Jan 2015 #29

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
1. Just like Ohio.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 07:08 AM
Jan 2015

Purchased by fossil fuel interests & complicit in the the 5th mass extinction headed this way.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. They should just cut to the chase and tax people for breathing and send the proceeds to Koch
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 07:51 AM
Jan 2015

And people keep voting these clowns in, so nothing changes.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
4. I live behind the Hoosier Iron Curtain and let me tell you, the republicans in this state
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:04 AM
Jan 2015

are bunch of crooks!

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
5. That state, Indiana, must be run by Neanderthals.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jan 2015

The only people who wouldn't be interested in clean energy would be folks on big oil's take, and-or people too stupid to know any better.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
20. Since when is oligarchy distinguished by significant difference?
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jan 2015

Big Oil. Fossil Fuel Lobby. Big Industry.

You are correct that 98% of the electricity production is via coal. I don't mean to pick a fight with you personally. I just don't see any significant difference of one from the other. A few rich folks and-or corporations all conspiring with each other to fuck the rest of us for our entire lifetimes. That's oligarchy.

Indiana loves them oligarchs.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
24. I didn't use "oil erroneously as a synonym for oligarchy"
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jan 2015

I may have used the phrase "Big Oil" erroneously. If so, thank you for the correction.

Here's why I didn't use "oil erroneously as a synonym for oligarchy"


The Oligarchy Versus Planet Earth
...
Making the switch to green energy would be enormously difficult EVEN if people were well informed and democracy were functional. But they are not and it is not. The reason is “oligarchy”. Think “Citizens United.” Oligarchy is governance by and for the “BIGs”—BIG-OIL, BIG-DEFENCE, BIG-PHARMA, BIG-BANKS, BIG-HEALTH-CARE, and my old hobby-horse, BIG-ZION.

My “take” is that our government and the mainstream media are “occupied territory”, roughly, “wholly-owned subsidiaries” of the BIGs, the oligarchs, the several big-money interests, who/which allow popular democracy to take effect only on matters of no interest to themselves (or as to matters, if any, on which the oligarchs are, among themselves, in opposing balance).

The BIGs include individuals such as the Koch brothers, but consist mostly of big corporations and big banks, big hedge funds, big pension funds, and the like. They run America and much of the world. “The People”, as such, do not. Not on the important stuff.

more...

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
6. Indiana is solidly Repubic
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jan 2015

They forge the chains for their own enslavement. Bigotry and ignorance are powerful tools Repubics abuse to stay in power.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
8. Of course there is big money in the processing of fossil fuels
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jan 2015

Just not enough for some of these greedy ass-hats...

A very sad state of affairs ;-0

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
10. I know ALEC has some model bills that do this very thing
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jan 2015

they were probably used as a template if nothing else.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. Republicans are trapped between science and superstition to guide public policy.
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:48 AM
Jan 2015

Look what happens to public policy when it is superstition that takes over....disaster and greed and corruption.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. Sorry wrong people to blame. Skip voting and this is what you get
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jan 2015

Republicans show up for every election.

Democrats think there isn't any difference between the Republican and the democrat on the ballot or it isn't that exciting of an election because it's not presidential and they stay at home.

So if you want to blame anyone blame the democrats who skipped voting.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
19. You're right but the lower turn out of the Ds was the goal of the Koch/Media/Republican structure
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jan 2015

And I think that the 2014 was also very dirty on many levels.

But I will never get why anybody would vote republican because they want to kill of the
Post Office, Public Schools, Women's Reproductive Rights, and lots of other nasty stuff.
The republicans' "product" is inferior but somehow it is sold as an equal choice to the
American people.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
26. Well, you can be pissed forever at the apathetic intermittent voters,
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jan 2015

and maybe you're right about assigning the blame. But that doesn't change anything. Those apathetic marginal voters do come out for Presidential elections, & I think they would for midterms too, if the Dems were better at giving them good reasons to come out. We can either blame them lose forever, or figure out how to get their attention.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
18. Another Alternet fail
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jan 2015

They should label this clearly as an editorial.
They could have used a homegrown photo of someone working with solar rather than a stock bit.
Fricken' Alternet, rewriting other people's work, republishing opinion as news, and lowering journalistic standards as badly as Fox News.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
28. I never said it was untrue. I said Alternet is lazy
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jan 2015

Take your RW fail, stuff it in a pipe and smoke it.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
29. We've been hearing rumblings about this in Colorado
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 11:32 PM
Jan 2015

and with the State Senate with a one vote Republican majority and oil and gas interests throwing money around, it could happen.

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