Hockey fans hurl beer and racial slurs, chasing dozens of Native American kids from game

[geardaddy]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/hockey-fans-hurl-beer-and-racial-slurs-chasing-dozens-of-native-american-kids-from-game/comments/#disqus

A group of Native American students said that they were forced to leave a hockey game in South Dakota over the weekend after men in a skybox poured beer on them and targeted them with racial slurs.

In a Facebook post, Justin Poor Bear explained that his child was one of the 57 American Horse School students who he accompanied to the Rush hockey game in Rapid City on Saturday night. Poor Bear said that men in a skybox at the Rushmore Plaza Civic Center poured beer down onto the students, who were sitting in a rented suite.

“They were getting drunk and around the third quarter they were talking crap to our kids and throwing down beer on some of them, including our staff and students … telling our students to go back to the rez,” Poor Bear wrote.


Eventually school staff decided to leave the game early for the safety of the students.

“The harassment they received in there [SIC] young lives, something they should have never went thru tonight, it’s child abuse, they went thru racism tonight,” Poor Bear observed.

The rest at link, plus video

[shenmue]

1. Disgusting

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. wow. smae thought except I was going to say Fucking Disgusting ...

me and my potty mouth

[progressoid]

3. I can't describe what I feel for these vile creatures.

[Initech]

11. Me either.

[Newest Reality]

4. This whole

system reeks of that kind of abuse and incidents like that are just the violence, prejudice and ingrained narcissistic grandeur popping out onto the surface.

While it may be easy for us to point to certain people and specific situations that leave us stunned, disgruntled, dismayed and aghast, it is my opinion that these acts are not so random and individualized when you look at the the very structure of what is inherent in our social, political and economic systems once you put aside the grand facade of self-justifying rhetoric and moralistic, dogmatic superficiality that foments, supports and continues the systemic drive towards exploitation and divisiveness topped with a heaping helping of willful ignorance about the underlying disease.

We squeeze this toxin-filled balloon here and there, but that only changes the shape of the thing rather than popping it to let out the noxious substances of which it is comprised. In that sense, the negative and destructive behaviors can be linked to a system in an interdependent sense and not just on the old, jingoistic view where we imagine individuals as truly monolithic and separate entities within the whole, which is a one-sided approach to begin with.

A "holistic", (if you will forgive the term) view of our culture in relation to ourselves indicates that we all may be simultaneously agents of the system and victims of it as well. We are agents in the sense that are lifestyles and behavior supports its continuation and victims in the sense that we also fall prey to the various forms of propaganda and coercion, (overt and covert) that sustains the Status Quo. We are also victims when it comes to the outbreaks of violence and abuse that result from an internalized and collective pressure building in response to layers of manipulation, control and various forms of systematic persuasion that wears a finely tooled mask that pretends to be the face of freedom, liberty, rights and some idealistic, but yet unrealized, notion of democracy.

[Flatulo]

60. Very eloquently stated. nt

Hockey is just barbaric. And for the fans, well, I think this behavior speaks for itself.

Not all of course, but certainly far too many.

[bvar22]

62. No. It is RACISM... pure and simple, and the perpetrators ARE RACISTS.

...but that exists only in The South, doesn't it.

[Omaha Steve]

89. perpetrators ARE RACISTS

Got that part right!!!

[ieoeja]

91. While there is a strong north-south divide on racism aimed at Blacks, the east-west divide ...

... regarding Native Americans is almost absolute. You're going to have a difficult time finding that particular brand of racism east of the Mississippi in the north or the south. Most easterners whose European ancestors came here more than 150 years ago brag about the little Indian ancestry we have.

First time I heard anti-NA slurs in the west I was shocked. I honestly had no idea such a thing still existed. It was the complete opposite of my experience in the east on that issue.

I was friends with a Cherokee gal in Chicago for a time. She had lived her entire life in Chicago and only traveled in the east. One Sunday morning she showed up at my door in tears. She had just come back from her first trip out west and couldn't believe what she encountered.

[Scuba]

143. There's plenty of racism against blacks here in Wisconsin.

[Adrahil]

145. Plenty here in Indiana too, but NOTHING, like, say, rural South Carolina...

In college, I went with a friend when she visited relatives in rural South Carolina. Although her family was polite and reserved, some of her family's friends and neighbors used racial slurs so casually, it was obvious this was a routine part of their lives. I mean, they made casual launching jokes, and they weren't even doing it to shock the "Yankee" boy (which I laugh at, because I grew up in Maryland, and all the Northerners thought I was a Southern Fried hick!). My friend's Aunt would look a bit embarrassed , but my friend would just roll her eyes and tell me privately "that's just the way it is down here." I've never experienced anything like that before or since.

[Scuba]

147. Ya know what? That's just the way it is here too.

[KamaAina]

5. The Chicago Blackhawks could not be reached for comment.

[yuiyoshida]

6. Meh!

baka tare! (idiots) 馬鹿 タレ daikirai! (hate!) 大嫌い

[napkinz]

7. God Bless America!

[Johnny Rash]

79. The message speaks LOUND and CLEAR: A powerful TRUTH about AMERICA!

It's amazing how some simple pictures can say so many words!

Nicely done!

[calimary]

83. Welcome to DU, Johnny Rash!

Glad you're here! It's a stunning series of images, for sure. And yes, it tells a powerful and unfortunate truth about America. As a country, it seems we're still in the spoiled snot-nosed brat-child stage of development. We have a LONG way to go to grow up.

[Johnny Rash]

99. Normal Children don't behave like this; That's for sure!

It is just pure EVIL incarnate within a very tormented Human soul!



It devours Human Souls for the sole purpose of controlling the destiny of Humanity.

[Cha]

118. Thank you for the horrific reality in those graphics, napkinz.. :(

[KingCharlemagne]

135. Those are some powerful memes! Thanks for the reminders. - nt

[Zorra]

8. The Dakotas, and northern Nebraska, have white racists that rival the KKK,

except there, the hate is primarily directed toward Native Americans instead of blacks.

I have never experienced anything like it anywhere else.

[bravenak]

39. I see it here in Anchorge.

[raven mad]

75. I've seen it statewide, bravenak -

it has never ceased to amaze me that oil boomers forget our Natives were here way, way before the Russians "discovered" the state.........

[bravenak]

76. I figured as much.

The things I have heard about natives is probably the nastiest racist stuff I've ever heard. I'm black, so, sure I get plenty, but I think they get it worse. So destructive.

[raven mad]

93. It's odd, but even way back when I was in high school here,

I don't recall nearly as much racism as is openly shown today.

Sigh.

I kept hoping against hope that us "children of the 60's" would end racism once and for all. A bit of a Pollyanna, aren't I?

[bravenak]

102. I keep sayingthe same thing about my generation.

I'm an idiot. But I still have hope!!!

[raven mad]

105. I think, in general, ALL Alaskans have hope -

it's everything at 42 below, like it is here today!

My mom (and, too, my future mom-in-love)used to say if you can't tell male from female (snow suit, bunny boots, ski mask, bearclaw gloves, musher hat, parka with hood) how the hell should you be able to tell black from white from Native?

My senior class president (1972) was a black man. He and his fiance were married right after graduation; she's white. They're still there!

[bravenak]

110. So true!!

You can't tell by looking at folks what color they are up here, and we have lots of interracial couples. I noticed that there were so many mixed kids up here, it was nice. My parents had geen the only ones in our whole town before that, so we didn't stand out so much. I think it will get better..

[raven mad]

111. Or how old (or young) they are, unless under 5 or so feet tall............

LOL! There's days I feel fortunate to be able to even tell if I'm speaking with a human!

[Laffy Kat]

114. Such an interesting lifestyle living in AK.

I was fortunate to visit on business many, many years ago and just loved it. I found Alaskans down to earth and friendly. There's a real "we're all in this together" community spirit; at least, I thought so.

[mountain grammy]

127. Yeah, I thought we would too..

just a few road blocks on our quests.. war, the draft, and murders. Hard to keep a movement going when leader after leader is silenced.

[geardaddy]

65. You can see it here in MN too.

Especially in the areas around the reservations.

[bvar22]

94. Why stop at Nebraska and the Dakotas?

You can find the same (worse) in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming (especially)

Did you know that Oregon would NOT allow black settlers until the 13th Amendment was passed.(1865)
Even then, it took a long time to bring those laws to Oregon.

[2naSalit]

124. Quite common in WY, ID, MT, SD, ND...

Sucks but I've seen it up close and personal.

[uponit7771]

9. Violent game begets violent fans

[bobclark86]

19. You're blaming hockey instead of drunken racists? n/t

[uponit7771]

20. Hockey is pretty damn violent... would NEVER let me kids look at it...

...and the stupid racists are to blame but when you have a game based off promoted face bashing what they would one expect?

[Scootaloo]

22. I would expect civil behavior as one gets from the sport's millions of non-dick fans

You do realize these assholes are in the news because this is unusual behavior, right?

[uponit7771]

31. No, I'm thinking the amount of fist fights that break out during a MLS should

... be news but it's not.

If Football players broke out in face bashing fights on a regular bases it'd be a scandal weekly...

In Hockey it's accepted... I'm thinking it's a violent sport ... violent people...

[Scootaloo]

35. How many is that, exactly? Please do inform us.

[uponit7771]

38. How many bloody face bashing fights during a season?! 3.... 3 too many

[Scootaloo]

42. Three? Okay. And how did you find this number?

[uponit7771]

121. post 113

nt

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

152. Why don't you do some research on the amount of racist behavior by fans in European Football?

Here's a good start....

[bobclark86]

32. Wow, you're not flat-out saying the victims deserved it...

for going to such a violent game, but "what would one expect?"

No. You're blaming "Doom" for Columbine.

The answer is simple: Drunken. Racist. Fuckwits. Had the kids been in a restaurant with a bar, or to the park on Fourth of July weekend, the same thing would have happened.

[uponit7771]

34. No, I'm just saying this isn't news... how in the world is that supposed to translate in

...putting the onus on victims?!

[bobclark86]

36. A race-related attack?

It's pretty common, you're right, and we shouldn't report on it...

[uppityperson]

133. A race related attack isn't news? "Bad behavior at Rush game targeted Native Americans"

isn't news?

"telling our students to go back to the rez" is news.

http://www.kotatv.com/news/south-dakota-news/bad-behavior-at-rush-game-targeted-native-americans/30931034

Craig Baltzer, executive director of the civic center, says “I’ve never seen anything like this before. Some of the things being said to the children were racially charged. I don’t know how to perceive people would behave that way.”

Good for Mr Poor Bear for writing about it on facebook and good for KOTA news for reporting this racism.

[EvilAL]

115. hahahah

You won't let your kids look at hockey? Because sometimes there are fights? I can't imagine you let them out of the house very much either. That's fucking hilarious.

[Logical]

134. So racism is justified because of the violence? You drunk. Nt

[KamaAina]

21. Get back to me when this happens at a football game

[uponit7771]

27. Football isn't violent and it's not promoted... Hockey on the other end is a game where

the people with the most teeth missing are lionized and bloody fights are part of the game ... and promoted...

... but 99% of the people who play hockey have ice skates on and that's why it's allowed

[KamaAina]

45. Fighting is prohibited in college hockey

and presumably high school as well.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. Olympic Hockey and European Hockey As Well

Fighting is NOT an essential part of the game. Dollars to donuts says if you banned it, 99% of the fans who say it has be part of the game would still be passionate fans. They'd get use to it in a heartbeat.

Even the most serious hockey fans in Canada watch every game in the Olympics and World Cup. No fighting there. How does that happen?

[Orrex]

48. Football is famously nonviolent. That's why the NFL is paying close to a billion for concussions

It's very weird that you're using an apparent anti-hockey bias to justify an ugly racist attack.

[uponit7771]

87. ... all that was cause out of anger?! Bloody pulps laying on the field after a sanmctioned brawl?

... no...

I can't see why people are conflating the two..

Hockey - promotes one player punching another player till their bloody

Football - if one player even DREAMED about punching another they better wake up and apologizae

[Orrex]

97. Again, a skewed representation

I care about sports about as much as I care about the color of the underside of the carpet.

However, you're painting hockey as a free-for-all bloodfest with no rules while representing football as a gentleman's contest, and that's simply dishonest.

And this was non-professional hockey, where fighting is forbidden, as opposed to professional hockey, where it is permitted.

I can't see why people are conflating the two...

[uponit7771]

113. I disagree, wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_in_ice_hockey

Fighting in ice hockey is an established tradition of the sport in North America, with a long history involving many levels of amateur and professional play and including some notable individual fights.[1]

[Orrex]

125. Well, I guess that settles it.

[uponit7771]

138. We agree, it does settle it... facts matter

[Orrex]

139. Sure, but they don't matter much when proving qn irrelevant point

Even if a bloody fistfight is required for every drop of the puck, that still has nothing to do with the racist attack in this case. Certainly it doesn't explain it in any way, and it serves nothing except maybe to help with victim-blaming.

Go Wikipedia!

[Divernan]

137. Wikipedia for the win!

[marmar]

52. football isn't violent?

[Orrex]

54. They wear the helmets and pads so that the players are more visible on the field

It's all for ratings, baby!

[uponit7771]

85. No, tackling isn't violent... not done out of anger no matter what peoples peceptions are

... but punching someones teeth out as a promoted part of the sport!?

that's violent

[Codeine]

70. Those concussions are the result of an over-abundance

of sympathy for the losing team?

[uponit7771]

86. ...or wrong techniques in tackling or accidents... but there's no way those concssions

... are cause by someone taking an fist to a bear head like in Hockey..

The number of people making excuses for the INHERENT angry and violent nature of hockey is gob smacking.

People, they punch each other out of anger with the intent of harming the other teams players!!!

[Orrex]

146. You're setting a false standard for violence

You are identifying violence exclusively as a deliberate, angry act in a fist-to-head altercation, with the preposterous exclusion of all else. But somehow the thousands of well-documented concussions in the NFL don't qualify as violence.

That's special pleading. It's a fallacy, and it's bullshit.

One could as readily argue that it wouldn't be violence if I were to punch someone in the head, as long as I'm not angry when I do it.

[dhill926]

108. haha….priceless...

[BeyondGeography]

81. Hockey is a great sport that has gotten mercifully much less violent

NHL teams rarely waste roster spots on goons anymore and the vast majority of games pass without a fight. Illegal hits result in tough suspensions by the league and the vast majority of games don't include those either. You have a Slapshot view of the game that is amost as dated as the film.

[GoCubsGo]

117. Well said.

Even the "Slapshot" view exaggerated the fighting and goonery that occurred at the time. The vast majority of the blood one sees these days comes from inadvertently being hit by a puck, stick or somebody's skate. Drawing blood on another player means extra time in the penalty box, even when it's an accident.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

153. You're fucking clueless

I apologize if you haven't paid attention to hockey since the 70's. But you are still totally fucking clueless.

[Codeine]

69. Poorly-composed thought begets ill-advised post. nt

[LanternWaste]

73. More accurately, racist people beget racist words...

More accurately, racist people beget racist words...

[liberalhistorian]

132. That has very little to do with it.

I live here in South Dakota and used to live in Rapid City for a time (I live on a reservation now). I'm white, but see all the time just how openly and blatantly racist this state is against Indians; hell, make that most western states for that matter. This is not surprising at all to me and it has nothing to do with violent games or anything like that. It is hate and RACISM, plain and simple.

[citizen blues]

10. Where the hell was security?

This is child abuse. Why weren't the cops called and those drunken bums jailed? Where were the people who own the hockey rink? They are responsible and equally culpable for failing to intervene. What the hell was everyone else in the rink doing? Just sitting on there lilly white asses doing nothing? If that's the case, they are also at fault and accessory to this assault.

[geardaddy]

28. Agreed.

The owners are responsible for what happens in their space.

[Octafish]

43. !

Thank you for putting it into words, citizen blues.

[Snow Leopard]

53. Yeah, that is my question

How is that these kids have to leave. Don't all rinks have security to boot these bums out?

[Cha]

120. Good point, cb!

[Jesus Malverde]

154. I'm surprised it's not mentioned...nt

[benz380]

12. 'American Horse School'. I can't get the school's name out of my head. n/t

[Orrex]

56. Hmm...

[Generic Other]

122. Why we need to remember our history...

American Horse (1830–September 9, 1876) was an Oglala Lakota warrior chief renowned for courage and honor. American Horse is notable in American history as one of the principal war chiefs allied with Crazy Horse during Red Cloud's War (1866–1868) and the Battle of the Little Bighorn during the Great Sioux War of 1876-1877.




American Horse


Daughter of American Horse


American Horse and his family

[benz380]

141. I know he was a Chief, but I would have added 'Chief' to the school name. n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. Weird shit happens during the third quarter of lots of hockey games...

In fact, that's when the drunk assholes usually make themselves known.

[KamaAina]

15. The weirdest of all being the existence of a third quarter

in a sport where a regulation game consists of three periods.

[geardaddy]

18. +1 n/t

[KamaAina]

23. And to think, judging by his avvie,

the hardware is stashed away in a broom closet somewhere in his city.

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. Kinda makes me question the veracity of the story. n/t

[benz380]

24. Hockey has innings, not quarters. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Yer daft. Hockey has three halves. Everyone knows that. n/t

[Dr. Strange]

40. Three halves and five wholes.

I once scored a goal through the five whole.

[hifiguy]

30. Last team to kick a home run wins.

[benz380]

142. They WILL be checking the air pressure in those pucks, so no cheating! n/t

[Thor_MN]

112. Skybox assholes were into their 3rd fifth...

[KamaAina]

14. Both PK Subban and Wayne Simmonds have had bananas thrown at them

edit: For those of you just joining us, both are outstanding African Canadian NHL players.

[Snow Leopard]

58. they are not from Africa

but yes they are outstanding Canadian hockey players, and seem to be outstanding young men off the ice as well.

[KamaAina]

63. They are not from America either

I was using "African Canadian" as an analog to "African American".

[florida08]

16. I guess that's free speech ?

This country is devolving into a bunch of thugs. How is this not harassment?! It's going to get worse too.

[citizen blues]

17. Where the hell was security?

This is child abuse. Why weren't the cops called and those drunken bums jailed? Where were the people who own the hockey rink? They are responsible and equally culpable for failing to intervene. What the hell was everyone else in the rink doing? Just sitting on there lilly white asses doing nothing? If that's the case, they are also at fault and accessory to this assault.

If you have any doubt of that here's what Craig Baltzer, executive director of the civic center had to say, "I’m very disappointed in how people behaved." DISAPPOINTED?!?!? Really?!?!? How would he feel if that was his kid treated that way. Disappointed wouldn't even begin to cover it. OUTRAGED would be more like it! What action did he take to stop this racially motivated child abuse? I hope the school and the parents sue the civic center for standing by and doing nothing.

[dhill926]

109. agreed....

[Vattel]

26. I hope the perpetrators are held accountable. It's odd that the school staff didn't

complain during the game. One would think that security could have stopped that sort of thing in its tracks.

[drynberg]

149. This is my thinking, at least we'd know if security didn't act to stop this assault...this ain't

Funny, folks. This is barbaric and racist...many should be filled with shame. Where is Justice?

[malaise]

33. These racist scumbags clearly confused

pour beer with Poor Bear

[Jackpine Radical]

46. Maybe they poured it because it was such poor beer they couldn't bear it.

And lest this tomfoolery be mistaken for some sort of tacit approval of the behavior of the assholes, let me merely say assault charges should be pressed if possible. It was, after all, sort of a public setting, and there have to be witnesses who knew the perps. Nail the little hits, I say.

[malaise]

47. Same here - they must be punished

but I couldn't resist the play on words

[Jackpine Radical]

49. Maybe we could start some sort of Twelve Step group--

"I came to realize that I was helpless when confronted with the urge to make a pun…"

[malaise]

61. Hehehhehehe

[Terra Alta]

37. Native Americans have been putting up with this type of shit and worse

for over 500 years now. How much longer must this go on?

[drm604]

41. According to the article they know who was in that box.

There should be a criminal investigation. If they poured beer on these children, isn't that assault?

[geardaddy]

44. +1

I'm sure it's just considered "boys will be boys" in SODAK.

[Bad Granny]

51. How about "serving" alcohol to minors? Racism may be fine for a large swath of Americans, but

providing liquor (beer) to children is something the moral morons could support.

People ask why wasn't something done to the rich assholes?

Duh.
Rich businessmen (probably on an expense account) versus almost certainly a charitable gesture from some group to treat some minority kids to a game.

Who the fuck do you think the majority of Americans, especially rich team and arena owners, would side with.

Upper class privilege, and certainly white in this case.

Same old, same old.

[drm604]

59. People do get prosecuted for such things.

I think the majority of Americans would side with the children. But that's not the question. The question is who will authorities side with.

Unfortunately, in someplace like S. Dakota, they may side with the idiots in the box. if so then there needs to be public pressure for an investigation and prosecutions.

If nothing else, there may be civil rights violations and the feds may be able to step in.

[Skittles]

74. I doubt many people would side with rich assholes assaulting children

[Blue_Tires]

84. My question is why the hell weren't the drunkards removed from the arena

if not arrested?

I've seen countless people ejected from stadiums with police escort for behavior a lot less worse than this...

[frylock]

50. where is Billy Jack when you need him?

these fuckers deserve a beatdown of epic proportion.

[Generic Other]

123. I just go berserk!!

[gregcrawford]

55. That is utterly despicable

The scumbags in that skybox are a disgrace to the human race. Makes me ashamed to be Caucasian.

[Enthusiast]

64. Racist assholes.

[Wellstone ruled]

66. Who owns the Sky box?

Tell us that and this shit will not happen again. Car Dealer? Bank? Only way to stop this is to embarrass the hell out of the Business that owns or rents this suite.

BTW,three periods in Hockey and it is the fastest game on ice.

[geardaddy]

67. It's not stated in the article

It says that "Eagle Sales" rented the skybox from the owner (unnamed)

[Wellstone ruled]

100. Eagel Sales is

the local Anheuser Bush beer distributor. Budweiser,this is going to hurt someones bottom line. What a bunch of dipshits.

[valerief]

68. Poor people in skyboxes are such brutes. Oh, wait. Poor people don't get skyboxes.

Never mind.

[JI7]

71. oh, but it has nothing to do with race

[stevenleser]

72. But that can't be, we're in a post-racial country.

[heaven05]

77. these beer drinking, skybox occupying type of people

really have gone off the deep ed. And it's not just Idaho or ascribing this to drunkeness. This type of behavior is widespread in this country now since the RW feels, since Nov 4, 2014 that it has a mandate for it's racism, bigotry and ignorance. This is reprehensible behavior by americans to THE FIRST Americans. But really, what can be expected from people whose ancestors probably took part in the genocide of the First Americans in the first place.

[DonCoquixote]

78. let's not focus so much on hockey

that we forget the actual racism.

Hockey was in part invented by native Americans, and hockey can be played well. However, the fact is, the people who did this crap would just as likley to attack kids if the arena was showing "Frozen" on ice.

[dembotoz]

80. friend of mine has season baseball tickets-act stupid like that and the team

will go after your ticks and they kind of know who you are.
would assume luxury box hockey -even minor league would be the same
liability issues no team wants to deal with.

If you give your tickets to someone else the club will still go after you because you are responsible
for your guests.

if you have not figured it out with my little posty thing, i am rather fond of hockey
but hockey fans and alcohol is not a good combo--that being said excess alcohol and any sport is not a good combination
I hope the team does a make good with these kids. would be the class thing to do
saw a utube video about an nhl team where the mascot noshowed for an event and the team ownership went nuts with the make up....

https://www.youtube.com/user/nhlcalgaryflames

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

95. As a packer season ticket holde

If you mess up by selling your tickets to the wrong people, the Packers reserve the right to take your tickets away. Even if you were on the waiting list for 30 years!

Green Bay doesn't allow these things. Native Americans are respected by most in Wisconsin. If not for them we'd have to go to Vegas to bet!

[dembotoz]

129. she is like my best friend yet everytime i use her tickets she reminds me

i mean damn


oh and Packer season ticket holder--i am way jealous

closest i have gotten to a game is working concessions one season for my local school district
raised a bunch of bucks and sold a ton of beer....

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

148. Sorry I should have said "If you're a Packer season ticket holder"

My Dad never put me on the damn list! I usually find a way to attend one Packer game a year. It must be nice to live in GB, as your chances of knowing a season ticket holder increase exponentially!

GO Packers!

[Rex]

82. Okay so who were the fuckwads in the skybox? I hope someone digs into this and finds out.

And I hope it is someone that finds a company email address that I can write a very nasty letter to. This infuriates me to no end!

[aggiesal]

88. This was a specific game in a specific box ...

at the pro level, the home team and stadium officials would pull
up their records and either tell the renters of the box never to return,
or if it's a full season rental (and they do buy boxes as season tickets),
they would strip them of their season passes, and rent it out to the
public.

This is way bad for business at any level.
I'll wait to see what comes of this incident.

[Chakaconcarne]

90. Jesus F'in Christ!!!

If I would have been there, you can guarantee there would have been some fists flying. Fuckers!!!

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

96. I'd start chucking full cans of beer at them until they decided they'd better leave.

FUCKers

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

92. They should have rounded up the perps

And made them watch the rest of the game in diapers and a bottle in their mouth, sitting in highchairs. If they want to act like babies, then they should go all the way. Much easier to identify that way, and would make a great laughing stock!

[lpbk2713]

98. Sounds like cause for forfeiture of the skybox passes to me.

If they are seasonal pass holders hit them in the wallet for their stupidity.
Give the students free use of the skyboxes for the rest of the season.

[SunSeeker]

103. Great idea. Plus charge the assholes with assault and child abuse. nt

[KansDem]

144. "...charge the assholes with assault and child abuse."

At the very least...

[QuebecYank]

101. Assault + racism = hate crime. In my book!

[bluedigger]

104. Eagle Sales would love to hear from you.

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[Doc Holliday]

106. I've long known

that the South is known for blatant racism... I did not know, however that they meant South Dakota, too.

I used to date a female from S.D. who was pretty outspoken about such matters. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

[alp227]

107. and people want to say "YOUR SO POLITICAL CORRECT" to critics of "redskin" nt

[Cha]

116. This is so incredibly sad that there are such monsters on the loose. The idiots in the Skybox have

no idea what shame they brought on themselves. The poor things are such ignorant racist morons they should be sentenced to several years behind sensitivity training bars for throwing beer on Native American kids at a Hockey Game. They are loathsome.

I'm so glad this is getting mass Exposure.. thank you, geardaddy!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

119. Guess what color the assholes in the skybox where.

[sheshe2]

126. That is just plain evil!

[catbyte]

128. WTF is the matter with people?

Shithead bigots. Words fail me, as you can see.

[liberalhistorian]

130. I'm a white gal living in South Dakota; in fact, I live

on one of the state's nine Sioux reservations. This is, sad to say, no surprise at all, and ESPECIALLY not in Rapid City since it's the Selma of the state as far as Indian-white relations are concerned. This state remains openly racist in nearly every aspect of life; it is institutionalized in the educational and criminal justice systems. Police shoot young native men in the back and get away with claiming "self-defense". The state's attorney general is as racist as you can get and has no problem showing it. He used to be the state's U.S. Attorney under Bush and took every opportunity possible to prosecute Indians however he could (as the federal prosecutor, he had jurisdiction over many crimes committed by Indians on reservations). The government does whatever it can to screw over Indians. At high school sports games of Indian school teams against white teams, the white teams and their fans can be openly racist in attitudes and hurled epithets, including the old South Dakota stalwart of "go back to the rez"; never mind that thousands of Indians live off the reservations, including in the cities.

Rapid City is especially bad, though. I would not want to be Indian in Rapid City for anything. The racism there is so ingrained and so spoon-fed from the beginning, and so openly and blatantly expressed, that it is sometimes like being in the 1940's south. I lived there for a year and I remember, when I first moved there from an eastern state, expecting there to be racism. I was not naive at all on that count, I'd vacationed there in the Black Hills with my family for most of my life and had some idea of how bad it could be. But I was unprepared for just HOW open, blatant and deeply institutionalized it was. People assumed that, because I was white, I felt the same way they did and would openly express relieve themselves of their racist sentiments whenever they thought there were no Indians around. I enjoyed watching them sputter when they realized that I was not one of "them" and was not going to join in on the "fun". At that time, I worked for an organization that served a lot of Indian clients and necessitated traveling to and working at Pine Ridge and other reservations. You would NOT believe the openly and blatantly racist bullshit I was treated to sometimes when people found that out.

I remember one time I was walking along the bike and walking paths that wind along Rapid Creek all through the city. There were a couple of groups of Indians that were also walking along the trails and others that were just hanging out by the creek. Police were always coming around checking out the trails and often harassing Indians. Well, a police car pulled up onto the park grass and they started interrogating the Indians, who were doing NOTHING. I repeat, doing NOTHING. I was doing the same thing they were doing, but the policemen were paying no attention to me at all. A couple of the Indian women looked at me and just shrugged, as if to say something like "this is just the way it is." Infuriating and disgusting.

What DOES surprise me is that security was not on the ball here. They should have been right there, stopping this shit in its tracks and evicting those motherfuckers. Racism against anyone of any age is bad, but especially so against children. And these were CHILDREN. Where the FUCK was security and why the hell was it allowed to go on so long? Where was everyone else around them? Why the fuck should the children have had to be the ones to leave? Rapid City will be voting very soon on whether to pay gazillions of dollars to expand the civic center and the Indian vote is a substantial bloc in the city. This may very well affect that vote.

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be too surprised that security was nowhere to be found there. It IS Rapid City, after all. Sigh.

[geardaddy]

150. Thank you for posting your experience

I think it's very similar to how Bemidji, MN is with the white-native relations.

[armed_and_liberal]

156. Not much different than when I was working in Denver Colorado

1998 I was working in Arvada Colorado and was dating a Cheyenne woman for a time. I was just floored by the racist shit I was catching from co-workers and others.

[spanone]

131. will humans ever stop being assholes?

[jtuck004]

136. Sounds like when parents showed up at school in the 70's to incite their

kids to turn over buses and attack the black kids who were coming to class. Good Oklahoma Democrats. Interesting what time does.

School. Another sometimes violent sport.

[ejbr]

140. How these assholes sleep at night...

Some go to church to pray to a God who finds this acceptable?

[rocktivity]

151. UPDATE: Police ID Suspect In Hockey 'Hate Crime' Against Native American Kids

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141000981

P.S. How many people are we talking about in the sky box? Two? Five? Ten? More


rocktivity

[lpbk2713]

155. I hope they identify every one of these stupid assholes.

Their world needs to come crashing down on their shoulders for this act of hate.

[geardaddy]

157. Thanks for the update!