strict Utah school told girl wearing this dress to cover up

[Liberal_in_LA]

Utah girl, 15, forced to wear a coat to school dance because teachers felt THIS dress was indecent for showing too much shoulder
Gabi Finlayson, 15, attended Preference Dance at Lone Peak High School in Highland, Utah, Saturday
She wore a delicate pink lace dress from Paris inspired by Audrey Hepburn
School official asked Gabi to cover up her outfit because it was in violation of Lone Peak's strict dress code

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Speaking to the station KUTV, the high schooler said she was left feeling 'embarrassed' and ‘insulted’ when a school official approached her in the middle of the party and asked her to put on a shawl or a coat.
'I didn't want to make a big scene so I said, ‘yes.’ I had a coat in the car so I had to go back and get it,' said Gabi.
The young woman said she came away feeling angry and humiliated after being forced to wear a coat over her conservative dress for the entire duration of the party.
'Somehow my shoulders are sexualized,' Finlayson said. 'Like it's my responsibility to make sure the boys’ thoughts are not unclean.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2929310/Utah-girl-15-forced-wear-coat-school-dance-teachers-felt-dress-indecent-showing-shoulder.html#ixzz3Q9JOc6fn

[OffWithTheirHeads]

1. Wear a Burka you loose woman! Obey Christo-Santorum law!

Cause the Bible tells me so...and FREEDUMB!

[hfojvt]

4. In Highland, Utah

presumably it would be the Book of Mormon telling them so.

The same book that apparently tells them they can't drink coffee.

Although in one Mormon church, one of the members offered to buy me a Pepsi.

Of course, I told him "get thee behind me, satan."

[truebluegreen]

5. Surprised it wasn't a Coke.

I remember that provision got much looser in the 70s when the LDS church bought the local branch of the Coca-Cola bottling company in SLC.

[spooky3]

33. It's a public school. So they have no business

imposing unreasonable or religiously-based or discriminatory dress codes.

[TheBlackAdder]

47. The young women of the class should do this at the next event. Is there a rental store for that? nt

[OffWithTheirHeads]

67. I love it!

[yuiyoshida]

68. I was gonna say, what do they want her to do?

Wear a Burka?

[jwirr]

79. That was my thought!.

[hfojvt]

2. it's like they never heard of the 2nd Amendment

[louis-t]

41. Second Amendment?

[Action_Patrol]

45. *ahem*

The right to bare arms.

[TheBlackAdder]

49. All this time, and I was getting that backwards..

[Action_Patrol]

52. I can't fault your interpretation!

[BlueJazz]

64. You're going straight to hell for that.

[dembotoz]

70. thank you best laugh of the evening

[hifiguy]

3. Hard to imagine a more appropriate dress

for that sort of a function. is wrong with these people???

[KamaAina]

6. And this is a public school!

I am quite surprised that the Mormons have never set up their own school system the way the Catholics have.

[MineralMan]

9. Utah public schools are run by Mormons.

Everything in Utah is run by Mormons. I'd be willing to bet that the entire school board and the entire school administration is made up of Mormons. It is a de facto Mormon school. It's possible that this girl isn't a Mormon, and maybe that's the real problem.

A school doesn't have to be owned by a church to be run by church people. In Utah, it would be rare for a school not to be run by Mormons, according to LDS principles.

[Major Nikon]

14. Which pretty much underscores the problem of church-state entanglements

Regardless of how well meaning the church is, you still have the inevitable problem of religionists forcing their dogma on everyone else.

[el_bryanto]

23. According to 2002 data (which is while back, but the most recent I could find)

Highland Utah is 97 to 98% Mormon. It seems like anyway you slice it Mormons are going to hold most of the political positions. If you have a problem with Mormons, or other religious folk holding office, I'm not sure what you say about a city like that. And it goes without saying that there are other cities similarly weighted towards other faiths.

I don't support this decision, as it seems pretty stupid. And full disclosure, I am a Mormon.

Bryant

[Major Nikon]

30. The problem is not so much with a candidate affiliating himself or herself with a church

...but rather the other way around.

[el_bryanto]

31. I'm not sure I understand - you believe that the schoolboard there

is taking orders from the local church?

[Major Nikon]

58. If a church is helping someone to get elected...

then it's a pretty safe bet the church is going to expect some sort of influence on that candidate as a condition of that church's continued support. That's the way it works in Texas and I'm pretty sure we aren't alone in that regard. In an area where there's only one real denomination, I can only believe that influence is going to be even greater.

[el_bryanto]

59. OK - do you have an hard evidence that this is going on? nt

[Major Nikon]

61. I do

I also find it hard to understand why you'd think such collusion isn't happening. Some pastors are even overt about the practice and dare the IRS to confront them.

[demwing]

36. which is exactly why I homeschooled my boys

AWhen we lived in Utah

[Rex]

7. Too much shoulder? What the fresh hell is this about?

When will a certain group of humans forgive all the other women of the world for the sin's of Eve? Which I don't even remotely believe in for one second.

Seriously, thousands of years have past...cannot women ever be forgiven for one act? I will never understand why people want to belong to a faith based group that doesn't believe in forgiveness.

Again, seriously, I don't know all the exact details...but wasn't that the reason Jesus died on the cross?

[libodem]

17. Even though she isn't in temple garments

I'll bet the expectations are that the same places be covered as what the top garment would cover which is over the biceps. The bottoms hit just above the knees.

She shouldn't have to be covered until she either takes out her endowments in a temple ceremony to go on a mission or gets married in the temple.

[MineralMan]

8. Lovely dress; lovely girl.

It's actually a very modest, chaste sort of look, I think. She could wear it to church on Sunday, I think. I'm not sure what bothered the school official. The lace? Maybe she just looked to nice for that sourpuss of an official. I don't know.

Utah's very strange, I guess.

[Arkansas Granny]

15. The linked article says that the dress code states that the straps must be at least 2 inches wide.

The principal says that the dress code was known and that some other girls were also asked to cover up because their dresses violated the dress code.

I think the dress is lovely, also.

[MineralMan]

74. The straps on that dress look like 2" to me.

From my point of view, that was a very modest dress, actually. Nothing blatantly sexy about it. It was also perfect for a kid her age to wear to a dance. I was a HS student in the early 1960s, and remember similar dresses back then. Nobody thought they were indecent then, either. It's a classic style and very nice looking.

[Arkansas Granny]

76. I have to agree.

I went to high school at the same time you did (Yay, Class of '64), apparently, and had dresses that looked very similar to that. Even in our straight laced, rural high school no one batted an eye.

[MineralMan]

77. The girl in that story said that she was inspired by Audrey Hepburn.

That dress looks like one the actress might have worn, back in those days. It's a classic design, very simple and classy. It's also pretty and flattering for a slender girl. Audrey Hepburn was one of my favorites back in the day, largely because of her quiet demeanor while still being adventurous. I can't think of any better fashion role for girls, and many of the clothes from that period have a timeless appeal.

In fact, here she is in a Givenchy dress, holding an Oscar statue in 1954. The dress reminds me a little of the one in this story.



BTW, I'm class of '63.

[ladjf]

71. Looks like the detractors had some sort of "shoulder fetish". nt

[MineralMan]

10. There are 27 churches listed in Highland, Utah,

where this school is. 26 of them are LDS churches. One is a non-denominational Bible Church. See:

http://www.yellowpages.com/highland-ut/churches

It's Utah. The LDS runs everything in Utah, including this public school. Guaranteed.

[el_bryanto]

13. Members of the LDS church you mean. nt

[Wellstone ruled]

44. And their new Prophet will be Willard Romney.

What a F----ed up place. Noticed some new outward migration numbers stating,the non Mormon population leaving and being replaced by incoming Mormons. Total Theocracy in place.

[KingCharlemagne]

51. Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale" is looking more and more prophetic with

each passing day, at least for certain interior portions of the country.

[el_bryanto]

60. Where did you see those demographic numbers? nt

[Diclotican]

62. Wellstone ruled

Wellstone ruled

I doubt Romny wil end up as a prophet anytime soon to be honest - the current president are in good health - and if Im not wrong - it is a rather stricht rule for even beeing considered as a prophet - mr Romney wil fall short in many levels - if he ever tried to be elected as the president of the church... And I also suspect - it exist some records from the time he was a bishop in a local district - who are less than perfect - even if the records wil not se the light of day - at least not on the outside of they who have some speciall responsiblity inside the church - it is damaging enough for Romneys posiblity of ending up as the Prophet seer and President of the Church...

And just for the record - I think Romney is a bad person - who dosen't deserve what he is given by a long shot.. Even if he have keept himself inside the boundiers of the law - he have crossed many moral lines being as rich as he is - and I doubt somehow he would be forgiven for what he have been doing for many years when it's time for him to take the case up with the "big man"...

Diclotican

[Wellstone ruled]

63. Agree on the person thing.

Looking at his Linage makes me surmise what will happen. Morals and Scruples will have little bearing.

[olddots]

11. what are we competing with Albania or something ?

this country is fucking devolving .

[Stuart G]

12. k and r. nt

[Ilsa]

16. The young lady gets it:

"Somehow my shoulders are sexualized,' Finlayson said. 'Like it's my responsibility to make sure the boys’ thoughts are not unclean."

The Mormons' ideas aren't that far off from Sharia beliefs. Maybe this needs to be outlawed along with Sharia law!

[procon]

18. So, shoulder humping teen girls is a male fantasy in Utah?

Who knew!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Girls have shoulders????!!!! And, arms???? What's next? Ankles???

[Glassunion]

39. I'm thinking the photo is fake.

That does not look like a kitchen that she is standing in.

[Kalidurga]

46. It is definitely a fake...

she is also wearing shoes.

[Glassunion]

48. Yep... It's a fake.

[lpbk2713]

20. It's worth pointing out here ...

Mitt rMoney is a follower of the LDS and he wants to be our next president (again).


Really really stupid. OMFG.

[Pooka Fey]

21. Lovely dress, Lovely girl. 10/10

[NightWatcher]

22. Hey, there's that Sharia Law the RWNJ's talk about

and it comes from whom?

Mormon Sharia (or whatever they call it)

[MohRokTah]

24. The Mormonists are getting more repressive. eom

[Vinca]

25. I should have read the story before looking at the photo.

I thought they made her wear the dress she has on because whatever she had been wearing was too short or too low cut. What the heck is immodest about that dress? (Noticed the link is to a UK paper. The world is laughing at us again.)

[hifiguy]

53. Fundies and Repukes make the US the butt of

every possible joke in much of the world. Act like damn idjits and wonder why the world laffs at you...

[bluedigger]

26. Post a warning, for goodness sake!

Some people are on their work computers, you know. You want to get them fired for porn, or what?

[Enrique]

27. nice decor

am i the only one that wants to see the rest of the room she's standing in?

[Beringia]

37. I love that rooom too

[Faux pas]

28. ...

We don't have a shaking my head off smilie

[SummerSnow]

29. I knew it, shoulder porn is here...

and her ankles are showing. The horror.

[abelenkpe]

32. My daughter (age 8) was told no sleeveless

Shirts or dresses allowed at school ever. She goes to elementary school in LAUSD. Personally think that's crazy given how hot it can be here. But last time she wore a sleeveless dress her teacher made her wear her jacket all day. It was 90 degrees that day....

Anyway. Seems crazy. That dress is gorgeous. She should not have been given any grief over it.

[Glassunion]

34. This is the work of an asshole, who either did not like the girl in particular or was a

complete prude.

The girl's dress was inappropriate?

But not this?


OMGZ!!! An ocean of inappropriate!!!


At least the soccer team has some modesty...


The Tennis and Swim teams are downright full on PRONS!!! I could not post a picture that would be safe for work. The Tennis team... I COULD SEE THEIR ANKLES!!!! OMGZ!!! NSFW! NSFW! NSFW!

[yuiyoshida]

69. OMG!!!!!THEY ARE ALMOST NUDE!!!!!!

kidding...

[JI7]

35. common style ftom the 50s

[Tsiyu]

38. I find it ironic that this Utah thread was posted

directly above the one about our lovely First Lady going bare-headed in Saudi Arabia. Too funny.

I can't explain how it feels to be of the gender that is constantly told what we should be wearing by many of the other gender (and by many of our own. )

Forcing women to wear symbolic scraps or swathes of fabric really does appear to make some men feel exceptionally moral, all in control, all cool with god. How sad is that?

They are dependent on what another person does in order to feel worthy. Not just sad, dangerous.

These people are surely hated by anything divine. To be fair, most powerful Mormon leaders probably don't believe in their own narrative, but I imagine they like using the stories and the nefarious rules to CONTROL others. It's Big Business, Deluxe Prophet Edition: Lord And Savior Style.



I just have to say: It's very strange to strike such fear in the hearts of men, that even a smidge of one of our shoulders has superpowers, that the mere sight of the top of our heads can send those poor, weak men into lustful spasms and agonizing seizures of shame and sexual temptation.

We women need to find new ways to use our powers, and tell all the immoral, narcissistic, authoritarian big-mouthed men to shut up and worry about their own choices.

And this young lady is getting a wonderful lesson in theocracy. Hopefully, she will take what she's learning and use it to help make things better for people her age.

PEOPLE.* Her age.




*Gender-neutral, as boys and girls are harmed by theocracies.

[louis-t]

40. Gorgeous kid. Completely appropriate dress.

I bet it wasn't cheap, either.

[Dont call me Shirley]

42. Looks like the Mormons just alienated a smart and beautiful girl.

She would be smart to leave that cult.

[orwell]

43. I pray thee Satan...

BE GONE from this jezebel!

[Initech]

50. Your American Taliban at work.

[surrealAmerican]

54. When schools make their dances uncomfortable for students to attend ...

... the students usually find other, less supervised, places to socialize. Is that really what they want?

According to the story, the dress was not actually a dress code violation. Some staff member didn't like it, or maybe just didn't like this kid and wanted to give her a hard time.

[Blue_Tires]

55. Forget it Jake; it's Utah

[Laffy Kat]

56. Not to mention she is blatantly flaunting her ankles. nt

[Diclotican]

57. Liberal_in_LA

Liberal_in_LA

I think she looked proper in that dress - and I think it is a overstretch for the school to claim she should cover it up as it look like a rather classic dress to me..... I would say she looked nice in that dress - nothing special over it at all...

I think the school official overstepped her/his responsibility and should be reprimanded for it or at least told a few words about what the school official should not do...

If boys at the school have "unclean" thoughts about this dress - then its maybe some problem with them - not her - and maybe something the Church should recognize and try to address - instead of making her feel bad about a rather conservative dress - who I doubt would do much damage....

I have seen woman dress similar in my church - and no one have make notice about it - other than saying how a nice dress you have.... But then again, I suspect my church to be somewhat more liberal than many in Utah would have been.... And yes - I'm a mormon myself, just for the record... but This is just stupid, to make so much issue about a rather conservative dress... How conservative must the school official not be - if this dress is a issue...

Diclotican

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

65. Fashionism!

[SwankyXomb]

66. As if teenage boys have ANY thoughts that aren't unclean. n/t

[jmowreader]

72. I thought you were going to show something like this

The gown in the OP is quite benign.

[Rhiannon12866]

73. What century is this??

Beautiful dress and much more conservative than most girls that age wear...

[oberliner]

75. We should respect the religious values, traditions, and beliefs

Or is that only for that other religion?

[ProfessorGAC]

86. Nicely Done (eom)

[Orrex]

78. I swear I saw that dress on "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" yesterday

If the daring dress styles of 1958 television are too much for modern Utah to handle, then it may be time for an intervention.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

80. the irony. she pulls off that 50's Retro Vibe so well.

are they fucking kidding with this shit ??

[MineralMan]

82. Exactly. Here's a photo of Audrey Hepburn

with her 1954 Oscar for "Roman Holiday," wearing a not dissimilar dress:



Designers are still copying that look and women are still wearing it, illusion neckline and all.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

83. it is so totally classically feminine. jesus, people. get a grip. it is beautifully demure.

[MineralMan]

84. That was my reaction, too.

It's sort of a perfect match for that girl, too. I can see why she picked it out. It's one of those things that you try on and say, "Yes. This one's perfect."

And maybe that was the problem for whatever school official was involved. It looked just too great on that kid. Too pretty, so she had to be forced to put on a coat to destroy the effect. Since she mentioned Audrey Hepburn as the inspiration, I'm thinking that's exactly the look she was going for. That Givenchy dress Hepburn wore to the Oscars can be found all over Google images if you search for Audrey Hepburn.

Demure is a great word for it, too. Not blatantly sexy, but a knockout look for that particular girl.

Oh, well. Some people just can't stand it, I guess.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

85. picky here but, If Only she had a nude heel or heels dyed to match the dress. PERFECTION

that was HUGE for the late 50's early 60's. I know the black shoe matches the black ribbon belt but, it is way too serious for a dance.

[MineralMan]

87. Well, yes, but she's just 15 years old.

You can't expect perfect style sense at that age. At least she's not wearing flats. LOL! Seriously, though, if she carries a black clutch purse, that might tie the belt and shoes together and save the day.

I do remember my sister and my high school girlfriend dyeing shoes, though, for the prom. Both also made their own dresses for the occasion. Lovely!

[chrisa]

81. Thanks for posting this news story from Saudi Arabia.

Oh wait...

[Liberal_in_LA]

88. lol.good one

[MrScorpio]

89. What the fuck is wrong with Utah and that school in particular?

There's nothing provocative about that dress at all.

[Liberal_in_LA]

90. her shoulders. they want them covered.

[workinclasszero]

91. Homegrown sharia laws

There not one thing wrong with that modest dress...omg I see...shoulder?!?

What next school? All girls in a sack with eyeholes? Yeah homegrown isis strikes again!