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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTesla Model S P85D 'Insane' Mode: NSFW Video Shows How Insane It Really Is
This outperforms any street legal internal combustion engine vehicle I've ever seen:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096531_tesla-model-s-p85d-insane-mode-nsfw-video-shows-how-insane-it-really-is
Archae
(46,328 posts)They sure were surprised!
localroger
(3,626 posts)That's the recommended target for hard braking, and I assume the Model S has the equivalent of anti-lock brakes in its insane mode acceleration to prevent spinning out.
0.5g might not sound like a lot but it's actually very startling if you get it when you're expecting maybe 0.15g.
tridim
(45,358 posts)The zero-tire-squeal is what amazes me.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)CA, CO, GA, IL, LA, MA and UT all offer additional incentives.
The Standard Model S is $74,570, but has about half that horsepower.
http://my.teslamotors.com/models/design
tridim
(45,358 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)New tech is almost always expensive. As sales occur, and production picks up, the price will go down.
Also, it is a hand built work of art on top of that. I cannot justify spending 1/2 my home's worth on any car.
hunter
(38,316 posts)If the car senses the wheels slipping on the pavement, it backs off on the power a bit.
tridim
(45,358 posts)That car feels like the future.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Actually it's tuned for the optimum amount of tire slip on the pavement, maximum force to the pavement occurs at some point after the rubber starts to slip a bit but before the tires dissolve in a cloud of funky smelling smoke.
Someone I keep up with online is building an electric Palatov DP1e for the street, looking for a 0-60 time of two seconds flat.
hunter
(38,316 posts)This same property of rubber is very important to the ordinary steering of bicycles and motor vehicles.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Total HP on that Tesla is in the ballpark of about 700. With about 70% of the power (470hp Motor) in the rear and a 221hp motor in the front. The two are independent of each other.
I love the electric motor... 100% torque no matter the RPM.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Oklahoma_Liberal
(69 posts)Try to live a little.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Good luck.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Is that better or worse than being a snarky and petulant douche for its own sake?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)free advertising is good.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Which is, in essence, motorcycle-fast. woohoo!
ETA: 3.2 seconds 0-60.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)$106K.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)taking tax money from the poor and middle class to subsidize a rich man's new toy!
People thinking about buying one of these might want to peruse this forum:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/forumdisplay.php/73-Model-S
Much of the gas savings will be used to buy a new battery (the Tesla warranty does not cover degradation). All lithium ion batteries will die and it will be interesting to see the market for a used car that needs a new ~$20,000 part - assuming Tesla is still in business. They haven't made money and the burn rate is substantial. Also, they have a huge drive unit problem that apparently hasn't been fixed yet.
Toyota, Honda and Hyundai's new fuel cell cars are the real stars of the future.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Not to mention fuel cells are not very efficient in turning hydrogen into electricity and the vast majority of hydrogen today comes from cracking petroleum, also not a particularly efficient process.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)"Tesla Goes Open Source: Elon Musk Releases Patents To 'Good Faith' Use"
How about seeing it as a very small percentage of what goes to the military industry.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)So quiet and pure power.
The combustion engines' days are numbered.
RandiFan1290
(6,235 posts)Just like these fancy flat screen TVs
Part of a new wave of high-tech TVs hitting the market, flat-panel sets were almost 25 years in the making. They range from 3 to 5 inches deep and 40 to 50 inches wide and weigh 80 to 100 pounds. Most are monitors that must be attached to a video source, such as a VCR, DVD player or set-top box. Some can also be used as gigantic computer screens.
Current prices range from $11,000 to $25,000, which is more than most people are likely to spend for a TV set. Even if prices drop, as analysts predict, flat TVs would still cost $6,500 by 2000
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The TV I spent $600 on was over $3000 a few years ago.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I though the same thing about computers in 1987 when they were running about $4,500 each. Granted, I was simply shortsighted...
kentauros
(29,414 posts)0-60 mph in 1.8 seconds!
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Formula E will rule the earth in 20 years. They better figure out how to make the heavy beasts safe. Hasn't LaMans already been won by hybrids?
kentauros
(29,414 posts)While I watch Top Gear (or "Weird Wheels" where I originally saw the White Zombie) I don't read the magazines or watch motor sports.
From what I see on TG, the hybrids are making inroads in the "supercars" out there. What will be the big thing isn't so much the motors used as battery technology. As I recall, the motor used in the White Zombie is from an electric forklift.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Sorry, but who cares? Just another way for incompetent drivers to kill themselves and others.
Insane mode? Yes. No thanks.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)match that of high performance internal combustion cars.
I'd never really want that vehicle, though the 85kw dual motor version with about half the horsepower is attractive since the range on a full charge is 270 miles. With the spacing of superchargers across the country, you can travel to most places with about a 30-40 minute charge stop about where you'd have to stop for gasoline in an internal combustion vehicle. By 2016, you'll be able to do this cross country across any major interstate in the country.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)If you pump enough amps and volts through electric motors, you can generate any power level you want. Still, excessive acceleration in itself is not a plus, in my opinion for passenger vehicles. There's really no practical use for this "Insane Mode" in the real world, and a lot of opportunities for disaster.
Every year, we see stories of some moron buying an exotic high performance car and destroying it in a crash by exceeding the moron's driving skills. I'm far more interested in stories about electric vehicles with extended ranges and modest performance. That's not sexy, though, so I suppose we'll keep seeing performance stories from the EV industry.
So far, I'm not impressed with pure electric vehicles, although hybrids are making more and more sense, especially those that can be operated as electric only and charged at home for local driving. For extended travel, the hybrid nature lets you drive as far as you like by utilizing the petroleum-fueled engine.
I drive a little Kia Soul, that gets an honest 35 MPG on the highway. Kia is now making an pure electric version, as well. That one doesn't interest me at all, even though 95% of my driving is short distance driving. For the longer trips, though, an electric vehicle is a hassle, and one that doesn't interest me at all. Hybrids solve that problem. "Insane Mode" solves no problem that I can see. Toy world.