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Silly, distasteful, and verging on the bigoted. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2015 #1
+1 cheapdate Feb 2015 #3
+100 zappaman Feb 2015 #11
By that ridiculous logic bluestateguy Feb 2015 #2
No GummyBearz Feb 2015 #4
so how long of a penance qazplm Feb 2015 #5
Such a joke GummyBearz Feb 2015 #9
I miss the Unrec button. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #6
So I gather you do not hold the Japanese mmonk Feb 2015 #7
I'm talking about the present GummyBearz Feb 2015 #8
"Never, never forgive"? VScott Feb 2015 #10

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
1. Silly, distasteful, and verging on the bigoted.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 06:25 PM
Feb 2015

By all means criticise Japanese revisionism. But don't try to link it to this.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. By that ridiculous logic
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 06:32 PM
Feb 2015

Any country that has ever (no matter how long ago) committed human rights violations (pretty much everybody) would forfeit their right to be outraged when ISIS murders one of their citizens.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
4. No
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 06:43 PM
Feb 2015

Just those who rewrite text books to try to deny their human rights violations would forfeit their right to "never, never forgive"

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
5. so how long of a penance
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:27 PM
Feb 2015

should they pay in your mind before they are allowed to be outraged?

1000 years?

What if a million years from now, with not a single act of brutality from Japan committed on anyone?

Would they be allowed to be outraged then?

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
9. Such a joke
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:21 PM
Feb 2015

The penance is as long as they have legitimate government officials denying the beheadings of thousands of Chinese citizens by Japanese solders in Nanking. As soon as Japan can admit to their own atrocities, they can demand others be held to the same standard, and not a minute before. Duh?

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
7. So I gather you do not hold the Japanese
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:32 PM
Feb 2015

in any sort of esteem due to history and not the present.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
8. I'm talking about the present
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:19 PM
Feb 2015

In the present, Japanese nationalists are trying to rewrite parts of history, such as denying the fact that Japanese soldiers murdered (in particular beheaded) ten's of thousands of Chinese in Nanking. Once they stop trying to forget about that little event (the act of trying to hide/forget is a present day action), they can tell ISIS they will "never, never forgive".

That is the link from Japan's present to the past, and back to the present. Do you need a more detailed map?

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